01-05-2016, 10:20 AM
Wow, those were some heavy 8 pages. So here's my take:
First, I despise the p-word, so I will call it what I saw someone else call it, the Morality Clause. Far better, since this is primarily a case of right or wrong. Which, in the end, is in the eye of the beholder.
I'm a proponent of the 'if it's worth it, buy it'-camp. So in my mind/opinion, the phrasing should be more along the lines of:
"Once/When/After/As soon as I have perceived the positive/beneficial value this program has brought me/my life, I feel amazing/fulfilled about having purchased this product from the author's website."
Perceived value is global enough, even the placebo effect will trigger that. The past tense (manifestation-style) phrasing will either create an incongruity that the subconscious needs to correct by purchasing the product, or will have no effect since the listener has already bought the product.
Now, my self-dialogue is a bit rusty, and it takes a lot of re-reads to turn it into something workable, but that's the general idea.
The challenge would be that it would also affect third-party listeners (which technically the current script also does). It would create that uncomfortable feeling and yet they have no idea what it is they need to buy to fix it.
As much as I love the idea of educating users, I can tell you that many content-sharers are more aware of the ins and outs of copyright laws than your paying customers, and thanks to the nauseating efforts by the music and movie industry hold said copyright laws in very low regard. Mostly because they see how easily copyright laws get abused against both the content-sharers as well as the actual authors/actors/entertainers/writers etc. These people are the kind of people that support bands that use the pay-what-you-think-its-worth system and the independent artists.
Next, when it comes to the idea of disabling the effects of the sub, I'd highly recommend against it. The self-development community may have exploded (and since popped) over the past decade, but it is still much like a village where everyone knows one-another and values each other's recommendation. Nowhere more so than in the morally grey area of content-sharing. Allow one member of that village to experience the positive effects of the sub, and they will shout it off the rooftops to the others.
Yes, there will be people that leech it just because they can. But they wouldn't pay 500 USD anyway, let alone the estimated price-tag for 6G. Will there be people that can't afford it and so pitch together to buy it? Yes, there will be. That group will be the most vocal in their support and glowing recommendations. They will speak of the wonders of subliminals and make others aware that there is a site called subliminal-shop. A site those others would otherwise have never looked for. Now you've got this influx of people, all intrigued, many likely supportive, wanting to contribute or give back, monetary or otherwise. If even a quarter of them end up purchasing the product (because quite a few of this particular community are actually pretty decent people), it'll still be more than you'd have if that community had not existed or your subs had not worked for them.
So, educate, gently guide towards the shopping cart, but don't shut the program down.
Finally, be careful with those refuse statements. I cringe just reading them. It's the same with the word decide. The finality and inflexibility of those words hit resistance. You know best, of course, but I literally get a physical reaction, like hitting a wall or having a bucket of ice-water dropped over me. I know a NLP practitioner that loves throwing me embedded commands and anchors just to see me react.
Guys, I am reminded of a post Shannon made in the first thread about this topic. He pointed out that you are asking him, a relative stranger, to reprogram your brain with code you cannot hear. No matter how many scripts are published, for some of us, there will always be that nagging doubt that there's a discrepancy between the script and the audio file. And you know what? There may very well be. As long as you don't record them word for word yourself or manipulate the audio to make everything audible somehow, you'll never know. Personally, I'd like to believe my subconscious and the universe are powerful enough to prevent me from turning into a raving serpent-god worshiping lunatic. Just like they are smart enough to realize what I mean by Attract My Perfect Mate without going into every tiny detail.
You can either trust, or not. Your choice. Creating all these conspiracy theories doesn't change the fact that you simultaneously experience the desire for the quick fix these products can offer and the fear of the unknown. You'd be running around in circles, still having doubts even if a 1001 chimpanzees on a 1001 typewriters committed the collected works of Shannon L Matteson to paper.
Shannon, I have scoured a lot of threads with your posts in them, and I was hoping you'd help me understand your mindset a bit better.
You obviously believe in the LoA, which implicitly includes a belief in abundance. You even devoted yourself to this huge multi-year, part manifestation program. And yet you often make limiting statements. You claim 9 out of 10 people that learn your secrets will inevitably use it against you or steal from you or take away your profit, as if there's not enough to go around. And that's the lucky few people whose brain can operate at your level. Earlier in this thread, you were considering using our energy/focus for manifestation to benefit you, which would be consensual (we'd have forewarning), but probably not voluntary.
In the same train of thought, you refer to yourself as a scientist as well as an entrepreneur, two things that oppose one another. A true scientist seeks to evolve their chosen field by publishing and collaborative efforts, an entrepreneur seeks mostly personal gain (if the means by which this is done helps others, it's a happy side-effect). You admit yourself you may be years ahead of anyone else in the field, yet you give me the impression you'll take it to the grave and set the field back a decade.
I've been reading as many of your posts as I could find to learn and to understand so that I too may grow, but I keep noticing this conflict. Am I just misinterpreting?
First, I despise the p-word, so I will call it what I saw someone else call it, the Morality Clause. Far better, since this is primarily a case of right or wrong. Which, in the end, is in the eye of the beholder.
I'm a proponent of the 'if it's worth it, buy it'-camp. So in my mind/opinion, the phrasing should be more along the lines of:
"Once/When/After/As soon as I have perceived the positive/beneficial value this program has brought me/my life, I feel amazing/fulfilled about having purchased this product from the author's website."
Perceived value is global enough, even the placebo effect will trigger that. The past tense (manifestation-style) phrasing will either create an incongruity that the subconscious needs to correct by purchasing the product, or will have no effect since the listener has already bought the product.
Now, my self-dialogue is a bit rusty, and it takes a lot of re-reads to turn it into something workable, but that's the general idea.
The challenge would be that it would also affect third-party listeners (which technically the current script also does). It would create that uncomfortable feeling and yet they have no idea what it is they need to buy to fix it.
As much as I love the idea of educating users, I can tell you that many content-sharers are more aware of the ins and outs of copyright laws than your paying customers, and thanks to the nauseating efforts by the music and movie industry hold said copyright laws in very low regard. Mostly because they see how easily copyright laws get abused against both the content-sharers as well as the actual authors/actors/entertainers/writers etc. These people are the kind of people that support bands that use the pay-what-you-think-its-worth system and the independent artists.
Next, when it comes to the idea of disabling the effects of the sub, I'd highly recommend against it. The self-development community may have exploded (and since popped) over the past decade, but it is still much like a village where everyone knows one-another and values each other's recommendation. Nowhere more so than in the morally grey area of content-sharing. Allow one member of that village to experience the positive effects of the sub, and they will shout it off the rooftops to the others.
Yes, there will be people that leech it just because they can. But they wouldn't pay 500 USD anyway, let alone the estimated price-tag for 6G. Will there be people that can't afford it and so pitch together to buy it? Yes, there will be. That group will be the most vocal in their support and glowing recommendations. They will speak of the wonders of subliminals and make others aware that there is a site called subliminal-shop. A site those others would otherwise have never looked for. Now you've got this influx of people, all intrigued, many likely supportive, wanting to contribute or give back, monetary or otherwise. If even a quarter of them end up purchasing the product (because quite a few of this particular community are actually pretty decent people), it'll still be more than you'd have if that community had not existed or your subs had not worked for them.
So, educate, gently guide towards the shopping cart, but don't shut the program down.
Finally, be careful with those refuse statements. I cringe just reading them. It's the same with the word decide. The finality and inflexibility of those words hit resistance. You know best, of course, but I literally get a physical reaction, like hitting a wall or having a bucket of ice-water dropped over me. I know a NLP practitioner that loves throwing me embedded commands and anchors just to see me react.
Guys, I am reminded of a post Shannon made in the first thread about this topic. He pointed out that you are asking him, a relative stranger, to reprogram your brain with code you cannot hear. No matter how many scripts are published, for some of us, there will always be that nagging doubt that there's a discrepancy between the script and the audio file. And you know what? There may very well be. As long as you don't record them word for word yourself or manipulate the audio to make everything audible somehow, you'll never know. Personally, I'd like to believe my subconscious and the universe are powerful enough to prevent me from turning into a raving serpent-god worshiping lunatic. Just like they are smart enough to realize what I mean by Attract My Perfect Mate without going into every tiny detail.
You can either trust, or not. Your choice. Creating all these conspiracy theories doesn't change the fact that you simultaneously experience the desire for the quick fix these products can offer and the fear of the unknown. You'd be running around in circles, still having doubts even if a 1001 chimpanzees on a 1001 typewriters committed the collected works of Shannon L Matteson to paper.
Shannon, I have scoured a lot of threads with your posts in them, and I was hoping you'd help me understand your mindset a bit better.
You obviously believe in the LoA, which implicitly includes a belief in abundance. You even devoted yourself to this huge multi-year, part manifestation program. And yet you often make limiting statements. You claim 9 out of 10 people that learn your secrets will inevitably use it against you or steal from you or take away your profit, as if there's not enough to go around. And that's the lucky few people whose brain can operate at your level. Earlier in this thread, you were considering using our energy/focus for manifestation to benefit you, which would be consensual (we'd have forewarning), but probably not voluntary.
In the same train of thought, you refer to yourself as a scientist as well as an entrepreneur, two things that oppose one another. A true scientist seeks to evolve their chosen field by publishing and collaborative efforts, an entrepreneur seeks mostly personal gain (if the means by which this is done helps others, it's a happy side-effect). You admit yourself you may be years ahead of anyone else in the field, yet you give me the impression you'll take it to the grave and set the field back a decade.
I've been reading as many of your posts as I could find to learn and to understand so that I too may grow, but I keep noticing this conflict. Am I just misinterpreting?