(05-09-2016, 08:31 PM)apollolux Wrote: Started listening to BIABWS 4G+DAOS 4G today (as in Monday May 10, New York City timezone). I'm "getting IOIs" but I've been "getting IOIs" since I started ASC in August, and I'm also currently augmenting with pheromones. Playlist is 8 hours BIABWS followed by 4 hours DAOS, sometimes through earbuds (basically anytime before 9pm) sometimes through sound system speakers (especially while I sleep). I might switch up to 4 hours BIABWS followed by 8 hours DAOS later, maybe after 96 days, if I feel BIABWS has been successfully ingrained.

If I notice something out of the ordinary I'll post it, but also I'll try to return to the format I had previously of regular intervals of bulk updates if possible. Maybe someone can get some use from my journaled experience while I finish up college and push back my original plan of being able to afford AM6+SM3 proper.

So! Poor man's AM6+SM3, aka (EHPRA+ASC)+(BIABWS+DAOS).

(05-13-2016, 08:23 PM)gtavmofo Wrote: So hows your results going with BIABWS? Im currently using ASC and getting many IOIs, would it be worth picking up BIABWS?

(05-13-2016, 10:43 PM)apollolux Wrote:

(05-13-2016, 08:23 PM)gtavmofo Wrote: So hows your results going with BIABWS? Im currently using ASC and getting many IOIs, would it be worth picking up BIABWS?

I feel it's still too early to tell, since I'm not even a week in and I'm coming from 5G. Also, I'm only playing BIABWS for 8 hours at a time and DAOS for 4 hours after that, as well as wearing pheromones.

(05-14-2016, 06:58 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: gtavmofo, you, myself, and others have reported IOI's while listening to ASC.

How will you know which one gives you the results you are expecting since you are using all three simultaneously?? Or that's not an issue as long as you get results??

(05-14-2016, 06:58 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(05-13-2016, 10:43 PM)apollolux Wrote:

(05-13-2016, 08:23 PM)gtavmofo Wrote: So hows your results going with BIABWS? Im currently using ASC and getting many IOIs, would it be worth picking up BIABWS?

I feel it's still too early to tell, since I'm not even a week in and I'm coming from 5G. Also, I'm only playing BIABWS for 8 hours at a time and DAOS for 4 hours after that, as well as wearing pheromones.

gtavmofo, you, myself, and others have reported IOI's while listening to ASC.

How will you know which one gives you the results you are expecting since you are using all three simultaneously?? Or that's not an issue as long as you get results??

(05-14-2016, 03:45 PM)gtavmofo Wrote:

(05-14-2016, 06:58 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: gtavmofo, you, myself, and others have reported IOI's while listening to ASC.

How will you know which one gives you the results you are expecting since you are using all three simultaneously?? Or that's not an issue as long as you get results??

Just thinking if I should grab either BIABWS/BIABW/AOS to further improve IOI's or stick with ASC and act out on the ones I get with that sub?

(05-14-2016, 05:20 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: My guess is that since ASC generates a lot of confidence, that in itself will generate a lot of IOIs automatically. Although BIATBW/BIATBWS/AOS are actually attraction subs, so these would be more powerful than ASC?

(05-14-2016, 05:20 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: AM6 also has AOS in it too, I believe?

• vitamin D-3, 5000 IU
  
• zinc, 50mg
  
• indole-3-carbinol, 400mg
  
• horny goat weed complex (epimedium sagittatum extract, 500mg; maca extract, 250mg; mucuna pruriens extract, 33.3mg; polypodium vulgare extract, 25mg)
  
• GNC Mega Men Energy & Metabolism, 1 packet (6 or 7 capsules depending on formulation)
  

• Bad Wolf (30ml) and Possess (tester vial), from Liquid Alchemy Labs
  
• A314 (10ml) from Androtics Direct
  
• all the other stuff I had previously from Androtics
  

(05-22-2016, 09:22 PM)apollolux Wrote: Having just finished 14 days, because I feel certain information is useful to know regarding the efficacy of the sub, here's what else I'm doing in conjunction with listening daily to 8 hours of BIABWS followed by 4 hours of DAOS, both in 4G:

Supplements taken daily:

• vitamin D-3, 5000 IU
  
• zinc, 50mg
  
• indole-3-carbinol, 400mg
  
• horny goat weed complex (epimedium sagittatum extract, 500mg; maca extract, 250mg; mucuna pruriens extract, 33.3mg; polypodium vulgare extract, 25mg)
  
• GNC Mega Men Energy & Metabolism, 1 packet (6 or 7 capsules depending on formulation)
  

Pheromones used commonly, chosen from:

• Bad Wolf (30ml) and Possess (tester vial), from Liquid Alchemy Labs
  
• A314 (10ml) from Androtics Direct
  
• all the other stuff I had previously from Androtics
  

Still taking an asthma inhaler daily, 4 puffs of Ventolin. Current anti-depressant is escitalopram (aka Lexapro) at 10mg, up from 5mg since the beginning of May. I have little to no doubt the regimen of anti-depressants I've had since starting in late September 2015 (which included Prozac) have very much affected motivation and energy.

And now some changes 14 days into the listening regimen:

I seem to be getting back into penile stamina and enlargement training, but motivation for that is currently still low to non-existent. When it happens it happens, but I don't force it anymore like I did last year which resulted in gaining an inch of length and an inch of girth. Similarly, I've found I can easily go 7-14 days of no masturbation without even trying, simply due to lack of motivation and desire, and when I do choose to I often rationalize it as a "reward" for "putting up with the ridiculousness of certain women still in denial of their attraction towards me" during some particularly lengthy or significant interaction earlier that day.

Desire and motivation to workout still low; feels like I'm slowly rebuilding it, though for what, for whom? Not myself, since I've easily felt as comfortable before at 200 lbs and a 36 inch waist as I do now at 174 lbs and a 32 inch waist. Not any singular woman anymore, since the girl I was originally working out hardcore for (the blonde Russian one-itis) is not as major a motivation right now as she once was and there don't seem to be any current prospects who even come close to piquing that amount of interest in me. Workouts, when existent, have become routines of dead-lifts, pull-ups, chest presses, shoulder presses, and maybe one or two other localized upper body exercises, which I've dubbed "maintenance mode" as it staves off growing into a whale again.

As this post was primarily informational, the next update will have observations regarding differences in noticed behaviors since starting this listening regimen.

(05-23-2016, 12:01 AM)gtavmofo Wrote:

(05-22-2016, 09:22 PM)apollolux Wrote: [ ... my huge post ... ]

Probably shouldn't take any supplements or wear pheromones it effects subs, so in general are you noticing much from BIATBWS are women showing strong signs of interest ect, you acting on them.

Quote:I see IOIs from women almost everywhere I go, from touching their necks and brushing hair behind ears to crossing legs in very uncomfortable looking pretzels and pointing towards me to shifting their bodies to better display what they feel might be their most desirable features

(05-26-2016, 06:52 PM)SurferJoy Wrote:

Quote:I see IOIs from women almost everywhere I go, from touching their necks and brushing hair behind ears to crossing legs in very uncomfortable looking pretzels and pointing towards me to shifting their bodies to better display what they feel might be their most desirable features

This is fascinating. I'm at day 84 with AOS and I haven't experienced any of this, not even once.