Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Printable Version +- Subliminal Talk (https://subliminal-talk.com) +-- Forum: Men's Journals (18+ NSFW) (https://subliminal-talk.com/Forum-Men-s-Journals-18-NSFW) +--- Forum: Men's Journals (https://subliminal-talk.com/Forum-Men-s-Journals) +--- Thread: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 (/Thread-Shannon-s-Journal-Discussion-Thread-Vol-5) Pages:
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ncbeareatingman - 02-16-2021 (02-16-2021, 05:17 PM)Roy Wrote: Let's keep this discussion productive and not derail it. We are here to discuss subliminals. There are certain rules on how to behave here. yeah yeah well FIRST of all I DIDNT ask you. you're not in it. two) tell them to be more respectful and this wouldnt've even come up. how about that ,how about THAT !! lets address THAT issue. I was on the subject of subs,NOT insults,smart ass remarks,ect. this goes both ways man and it needs to be addressed here! RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Benjamin - 02-16-2021 Keith, remember that Roy is an admin and his comment is obviously targeted towards everybody. They are having a joke, your reaction to it is going a little overboard. I see no mocking or laughter or anything towards you. Your post is what's attempting to escalate things quite alot. Lets just end it here. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - dragonslayer - 02-17-2021 (02-15-2021, 02:09 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-15-2021, 12:46 PM)THolt Wrote: @Shannon @Shannon I woke up at 5:15 am this morning with my ipod paused so I'm not sure if I got 3 loops done for OF V2. Last night February 16 to this morning is supposed to be the 6th of 35 cycles, 1st of 6 days on. Should I count that even if I woke up with the ipod paused not being sure if I got 3 loops done? Or should I aim for tonight as 1st of 6 days on again? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 02-17-2021 (02-15-2021, 08:47 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: @Shannon I did have one other question that came to mind Shannon if you don't mind. I know with things like DMSI you said some things will be permanent while things like the aura will fade eventually after you stop listening to the sub because the aura requires too much energy and focus. I was wondering if in your opinion a lot of the changes done by the new MLS will be permanent? I'm assuming so possibly because it is making physical changes to the brain as well with possibly wiring it differently to be better at learning? If you use the program long enough, and use it properly, you should be able to achieve long term or permanent gains with it in all the directions that are not constant effort. As in, if you change the underlying programming, it should become permanent. Changes to the brain would be as permanent as their usage rate is. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 02-17-2021 (02-16-2021, 05:47 AM)ChangeMaker Wrote:(02-13-2021, 11:02 AM)Shannon Wrote: ChangeMaker said... I mean that those are the programs that would be helpful for you. LTUv6 would be the most helpful, followed by OF, followed by E4. I suggest that if you can't afford LTU v6 one stage at a time, you do OF v2 and then re-assess. If you can't do LTUv6, and don't want to do OF, then E4 would be your choice. Quote:I am planning to do either OF v2 or EHPRA v4 right now, because these are under my range of current affordability. I can also do DMSI/ Natural seduction (which you created recently), but I think you won't recommend me those now, as you advised me to forget about women and PUA for now. I am trying my best to forget those, but whenever I see a hot woman walking by/ see someone's facebook post/see couples I feel jealous inside and feel like I need those moments too. I feel a little bit desperate, vulnerable. The key is, do what is best for yourself. And who can build a house on sand? You need a foundation. If your foundation wasn't poured or constructed right, you need to fix it before you worry about other things. Whether or not you use my programs, you need to focus on doing what is best for yourself, and without harming others in the process. Make yourself the best you can be. That will attract women like nothing else, and you won't have to do anything once you're successful. So work on yourself and your internals first. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 02-17-2021 (02-16-2021, 03:17 PM)rarus426 Wrote: @Shannon Will DRS be included in the new MLS 5.75.6G? Yes. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 02-17-2021 (02-16-2021, 03:44 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:(02-16-2021, 12:24 PM)RTBoss Wrote:(02-15-2021, 09:36 AM)Shannon Wrote:(02-15-2021, 12:03 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Alright ,cool. thank you! Keith, you seem to think that somehow focusfire subs are inferior to other subs and don't deserve the price. That is the issue. The price comes from the difficulty in creating them, and that is not going away just because they're focusfires. They have the same price because they are the same level of difficulty and the same level of power. One just has a shorter script. Nobody insulted you. I was jokingly reminding you of how things work. But you are taking things in an unnecessarily negative way and over-reacting. This isn't the first time you've done that. It's gotten you banned before, if you will recall. It is unproductive for you to get upset like this, especially when nobody was trying to insult you or be nasty to you. I fully understand that for your personality type, this is sometimes just a thing. It happens. But again... nobody was trying to insult you. That was your interpretation of things, and that is therefore on you. If you'd like to see what I mean, let's say I take offense at you saying that focusfore subs aren't as good as regular subs? That actually could be insulting, if I cared to be upset by your misunderstanding of the matter. But I choose not to be. See what I did there? I didn't assume you were trying to be insulting, when there was a perfectly good explanation otherwise, and I tried to make it a lighthearted joke instead of taking it as an insult. Maybe you could learn something from that. Ross was laughing at the joke I made, not you. That's because unless you're looking for a reason to be upset, the joke (if you notice it) is funny. Not because somehow we are laughing at, mocking, or insulting you. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - sushi521 - 02-17-2021 Hi Shannon, on OF2 sometimes I experience sweating in the chest area when I was sleeping at night. Is this related to fear being processed? RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 02-17-2021 (02-17-2021, 10:09 AM)sushi521 Wrote: Hi Shannon, on OF2 sometimes I experience sweating in the chest area when I was sleeping at night. Is this related to fear being processed? It could be fear being processed, or it could be the effects of the Directional Reflection Shield firing up to protect you from something. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 02-17-2021 After thinking about this for a bit, I'd like to point something out. The pricing model we use is based on generation of technology. Each generation gets more complex and more effective and powerful, and thus is more valuable; but at the same time, it gets more and more difficult to improve, develop and advance the technology and it gets more and more complex and difficult to build. That is also why the price goes up. The price of a 5G program is $89.95 per copy, per stage. 5.5G is $114.95 per copy. But because of all of everything that has been going wrong -the cycles, the pandemic, etc. - I haven't raised prices according to generation since we went past 5.5G. So 5.75G should be more; 5.75.1G should be more than that. 5.75.2G should be an increase. And so on. I haven't done this because I understand that you guys are having a hard time, as a result of you being affected by the pandemic. Everyone is having a hard time right now. Everyone is hurting. So that's a discount. You're already getting a discount on every 5.75.0, .1, .2, etc. program because of that. On top of that, the US dollar is being printed at an insane rate, and it is losing value quickly now. Just in the last year, it's lost at least 10% of it's value, maybe more, because certain people in power who think they understand economics really have a lack of oxygen to their brains as a result of having their heads up their asses. Instead of doing the right things, they'd rather just try to print and spend their way out of the issue, which will devalue the US dollar more and more as more and more are put into circulation. History has shown time and again, this always leads to the same exact result, and it's not "Oh, yay, it worked!". And because the value of the US dollar is going down, the prices of goods are going up to compensate. But we haven't raised prices. Because we understand you guys are hurting financially. Which means that as the value of the dollar goes down, we have the option of: 1. Accept less value for the same product by keeping the same currency and price. 2. Raise prices to compensate. 3. Change what currency we accept payment in. Right now, I do not have a way to change currencies reasonably easily. That may happen in the future, but for right now it's not an option given our circumstances. I don't want to raise prices, because I don't want to make it harder to buy my programs. I will only do that if I absolutely have to until all this financial BS blows over and it is something that my customers can handle dealing with. Which means we are effectively getting paid less value in purchasing power, for the same number of dollars. Which is... a form of discount. So you guys are getting a serious discount. Now let's say I was raising my prices to match inflation, and I was still increasing them for each generation. We'll estimate that the price of 5.75G went to US$199.95 a copy, and then we added just a measly $5 for each .1 at the end ($5 seems low to me, but we'll go with that). That would mean that... 5.75G would be $199.95 before inflation. 5.75.1G would be $204.95 before inflation. 5.75.2G would be $209.95 before inflation. 5.75.3G would be $214.95 before inflation. 5.75.4G would be $219.95 before inflation. 5.75.5G would be $224.95 before inflation. 5.75.6G would be $229.95 before inflation. Now if we add in inflation, just what's happened since January 2020, and we estimate it to be 10%, those prices become: 5.75.0G would be $219.95 a copy per stage. 5.75.1G would be $225.45 a copy per stage. 5.75.2G would be $230.95 a copy per stage. 5.75.3G would be $236.45 a copy per stage. 5.75.4G would be $241.45 a copy per stage. 5.75.5G would be $247.45 a copy per stage. 5.75.6G would be $252.95 a copy per stage. Now these prices may be hypothetical, but they're not far off what they would actually be if I wasn't trying to avoid raising prices because I want to make sure you guys can afford my stuff. The problem is, by doing this, I have lowered the perceived value of my work, and now I have people doing things like asking if the price will go down because it's "only a focusfire". It being a focusfire means that it has a shorter script. That doesn't mean it's any less difficult to build, requires any less precision and attention to fine detail, or has less effectiveness or value. The value is still there. That's why the price is the same and set by generation. Sooner or later the prices will have to go back to where they need to be - partly because I can't afford to keep prices artificially low forever, and partly because the perceived value can't be artificially low because I'm trying to be helpful instead of just do business and disregard my customers. And even doing this, our sales are way down. So please, keep in mind what is actually happening, and what reality is. $114.95 a copy for anything 5.75.5G and up is artificially low, and by a LOT. Please appreciate what I'm trying to do here, because I am taking a serious hit financially so you guys can still afford my stuff. Eventually, the prices will be corrected. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Determined - 02-17-2021 I think you should raise your prices to their true value Shannon. While noble minded of you to artificially reduce your prices, it devalues your work and more importantly your self worth. Our self worth is intrinsically related to the value we generate in the world. When we devalue ourselves to appease others, it’s just a downward spiral. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Z-Man - 02-17-2021 (02-17-2021, 04:11 PM)Determined Wrote: I think you should raise your prices to their true value Shannon. Some of us can't even find a job with this pandemic. If sales are down with these prices they will just get lower if they go up now. Shannon has a great heart and compassion for his customers. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 02-17-2021 (02-17-2021, 04:48 PM)Z-Man Wrote:(02-17-2021, 04:11 PM)Determined Wrote: I think you should raise your prices to their true value Shannon. I think both of you are right. The question is, will raising the prices lower sales even more? If my customers can't afford the product, they won't buy it. If they don't buy it, I can't pay for taxes, electricity, server space, bandwidth, or the people who help me keep the business running - never mind paying myself. And if I can't pay myself, how will I pay my taxes and bills and so forth? I believe that what is best for business is what is simultaneously best for the customer and the business owner. That is typically a price they can agree on. Right now, I think a lot of people would agree, food, water, shelter and medicine comes first. And without being able to find a job, or keep one, or find enough work, or pay the bills I mentioned, how will they have money to pay what my programs are really worth? This is, in effect, the only circumstance under which I would lower my prices. Because the best price is the one people will pay. Something is better than nothing. At the same time, I don't want people to think that just because MLS 5.75.6G is not $252.95 a copy that it's only worth $114.95, or that because I'm going to be building some focus fires soon that they're not worth $114.95 because they're "just" focus-fires. If that starts happening, I may have no choice but to raise prices. Ultimately, what I want is what you want: I want the price to be what the value is. But when pandemics start happening, which triggers lockdowns, which triggers job losses, which triggers economic suicide, which triggers a long-coming currency devaluation, which triggers inflation, which triggers people to have to focus on the essentials... I have to take that into consideration. I, like everyone else, an caught between a rock and a hard place. For now, the price will not change. But you're going to see a lot of changes happen in 2021, and hopefully one of them is a way for me to make us all get what we want. RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Superman - 02-17-2021 (02-17-2021, 07:46 PM)Shannon Wrote: Release UMS2, everyone who buys it makes more money to afford higher priced subs. Everyone wins |