WildFlower - Alpha Male Subliminal

[WildFlower]

Thought I'd start a journal on this sub. I listened to stage 1 and 2 for 32 days each and I'm now 19 days into the third stage. The upshot of this is that I now feel like I'm finally developing and polishing of the mindset I have worked so hard on the past 2 years. I've explored so many different avenues and approached 'self improvement' (I hate that phrase lol) from all different angles, but none of them have been as effortless as listening to this sub. I've never had to put in such little work for as much reward. Only one other area has been as successful for me as subliminals. I'm sure Shannon knows which one I mean.

The 'Fight Club' phase from stage 1 and 2 is now over. I'm no longer the narrator over compensating by being Tyler Durden. Like the Narrator I found a better, healthier medium between the two polarities and no longer needed Tyler. So I shot him so to speak. My 'Fight club' phase was simply becoming irritated regularly at peoples basic commands or behaviour. I was on guard, almost looking and seeking for someone to ask me to do something so I could say no. This is gone, I'm now cool and laid back, completely indifferent to saying yes or no to people - whatever I feel like doing I'll do. Ironically people are now asking me things to do less and less - instead they now look to me for direction.

If I'm not confident in every situation just yet, I'm at least comfortable. No real fluctuation in my over all attitude and self esteem. Even if I have a bad day and negative thoughts creep in, this doesn't seem to effect my external attitude. I'm now at the stage where external reactions and effects are starting to appear more obvious to me.

This sub is great. My only concern is that the sub will make me rely on attracting women purely because of my dominant presence. I want to have that aura plus a sexual aura too (you know the squint in the eyes, seductive look aure). No problem, once I've finished stage 6 I'll replace it with Develop and Aura of Sexiness for a few months along with the 'live in the moment' sub I can't wait for.

[Shannon]

Great post. Couple of points though.

1. You can use both at once. Just use them on a playlist and alternate between them by looping the playlist.
2. Alpha training isn't going to make you Superman. There will still be occasional situations where you aren't always confident, and that's a good thing. It means you're not an arrogant cocky thoughtless ahole. It means you still have your humanity and you are a genuine person. Even Bond had his moments where he wasn't very confident.

You're getting the results it's designed for, though!

[WildFlower]

Quote:1. You can use both at once. Just use them on a playlist and alternate between them by looping the playlist.

I want to see out the Alpha sub with as much exposure as possible. Adding another title would cost me a few hours a day. Once I'm through stage 6 I'll loop Become Irresistible and Aura of Sexiness for the icing on the cake.

Quote:2. Alpha training isn't going to make you Superman. There will still be occasional situations where you aren't always confident, and that's a good thing. It means you're not an arrogant cocky thoughtless ahole. It means you still have your humanity and you are a genuine person. Even Bond had his moments where he wasn't very confident.

The fact that I'm now comfortable in the vast majority of situations is a massive, massive positive for me, and I owe it to stage 3 of the Alpha sub.

[Shannon]

There is also the creative use of a playlist, which I use, in which I will create play ratios from multiples of one title. One title might only be included once in a playlist, while the other might get four or more repetitions. That is an option to consider also. But for maximum results, you need maximum focus.

[WildFlower]

Well I'm now on stage 4. 2nd day in today. Half way though stage 3, I bit the bullet and took Shannon's advice to add 'Aura of Sexiness' in. I haven't got a great deal of exposure to Aura of Sexiness (probably about 3-4 hours per day) as I've been maintaining a solid 8-10 hours of exposure to the Alpha sub per day.

The past is a bit of a blur to me already. January seems a long time ago now (when I started on the Alpha sub) and I can't really remember what it was like to hold some of the previous beliefs I had back then. I'm still me just without all the crap or baggage. I actually feel like something has been taken away from me as opposed to something added. I feel cleansed, rejuvenated, a weight lifted from my shoulders. All of this and I was a pretty confident guy to start with. Half way though and it has made a big difference. Niggling beliefs I used to believe about myself - although barley consciously believe them - now seem completely alien to me.

The Sexiness sub is making a difference too. I feel the Alpha sub is sorting my 'inner game' out and the sexiness sub the 'outer game'. Off course both are really internal but I feel the Alpha sub is really dealing with my mind-set, beliefs, actions, where as the sexiness sub is allowing me to project my seductiveness with greater ease. The results from the Alpha sub have so far been more internal, whilst the sexiness sub seems to effect my outer reality more prominently than my inner reality. Wouldn't want one without the other, which is why I feel the Alpha sub will give me a much better foundation and therefore make the sexiness more powerful than it was first time round. And it was pretty powerful back then too.

[Andrew]

Very encouraging feedback. I've used the Sexiness sub, but not the Alpha set. Sounds like our Sexiness experiences have been pretty similar. Look forward to hearing about your journey. Have you tailored phero use with subliminals?

[WildFlower]

(04-19-2010 09:35 PM)subadmin Wrote:  Very encouraging feedback. I've used the Sexiness sub, but not the Alpha set. Sounds like our Sexiness experiences have been pretty similar. Look forward to hearing about your journey. Have you tailored phero use with subliminals?

I'm very surprised at how invisible beliefs can be. Beliefs which have played a part on how I feel and how I interact with the world have been invisible to me all my life, and would seemingly remain invisible to me had I not invested in the Alpha sub. Beliefs completely invisible and out of reach to the concious mind. I still can't tell you what beliefs they where, and likewise I can't tell you what new beliefs are replacing then, but I can tell you I'm feeling the difference. I feel very refreshed. It isn't like I just stumbled upon the Alpha sub and thought I'd give it a go - a more confident mindset is something I've been working on for the past 4 years, pretty much all my adult life. I made a lot of changes, a lot of improvement and I was where I wanted to be. I bought the Alpha sub on the notion of tidying a few things up, clearing a few residual beliefs left from youth that I imagine most people have. Instead it's worked to remove beliefs I held about myself I didn't even know existed. I'm a much healthier man now which a much healthier mindset than before. All of this increases the extent to which I can make the sexiness sub work for me.

I can't say I've tailored my phero use with subliminals. I've relied on pheros a lot less recently and when I have worn them, it's really been something social like p74, p78, A1 and the like. Both subs and pheros are fantastic tools and suit each other perfectly. They are the only two things I can say which have helped me the better myself time and time again.

[Shannon]

(04-20-2010 10:38 AM)WildFlower Wrote:  

(04-19-2010 09:35 PM)subadmin Wrote:  Very encouraging feedback. I've used the Sexiness sub, but not the Alpha set. Sounds like our Sexiness experiences have been pretty similar. Look forward to hearing about your journey. Have you tailored phero use with subliminals?

I'm very surprised at how invisible beliefs can be. Beliefs which have played a part on how I feel and how I interact with the world have been invisible to me all my life, and would seemingly remain invisible to me had I not invested in the Alpha sub. Beliefs completely invisible and out of reach to the concious mind. I still can't tell you what beliefs they where, and likewise I can't tell you what new beliefs are replacing then, but I can tell you I'm feeling the difference. I feel very refreshed. It isn't like I just stumbled upon the Alpha sub and thought I'd give it a go - a more confident mindset is something I've been working on for the past 4 years, pretty much all my adult life. I made a lot of changes, a lot of improvement and I was where I wanted to be. I bought the Alpha sub on the notion of tidying a few things up, clearing a few residual beliefs left from youth that I imagine most people have. Instead it's worked to remove beliefs I held about myself I didn't even know existed. I'm a much healthier man now which a much healthier mindset than before. All of this increases the extent to which I can make the sexiness sub work for me.

I can't say I've tailored my phero use with subliminals. I've relied on pheros a lot less recently and when I have worn them, it's really been something social like p74, p78, A1 and the like. Both subs and pheros are fantastic tools and suit each other perfectly. They are the only two things I can say which have helped me the better myself time and time again.

You have just hit the nail on the head. The Alpha set is designed with the primary goal of making a man healthier internally, intellectually, emotionally. In our current society, we as men are becoming less and less healthy, and that is where problems start happening. Women are designed to select the healthiest males for mating. They are also designed to shit test us at every opportunity to make us prove our worth and our health before they give us eggs to fertilize.

Any time a woman has power she will use it to advance her genetic mission. This is manifesting in some very subtle and unexpected ways now, because we are seeing women being able to influence the minds of men through advertising, TV, and so on. One side effect of this appears to be that many Western societies have lost touch with the fact that men are supposed to play a specific role, just as women are supposed to play a specific role, and this is causing havoc with the health of men, women, marriages and relationships.

In those societies where men and women have definite and specific roles defined for them, where one is dominant to the other, we see a much better rate of successful marriage and healthy families over the long term. It ties in with the decay of capitalism (which eventually encourages consumers to consume for no good reason, and become lazy) and the rise of global communication. We are literally programming our minds every day with the barrage of media (Internet, TV, Radio magazines, etc.) and we aren't doing it with any idea how it affects us, which inevitably leads to some very unhealthy programming.

Making men healthy again is going to have a snowball effect. Healthy men are stronger, more confident, more self respecting, more decisive, more calm and collected, more present. Everything a woman is designed to seek in a mate. It is no wonder then, that making a man healthy in his thinking and beliefs and feelings produces... an Alpha Male! That's what we as men are designed to be. The strongest takes point, gets the most eggs has the most offspring, and improves the strength and health of the population. That's how we evolved. It's visible all around us every day - except in the human race, which has by and large become so screwed up with "societal influences" (errant belief systems) that we are no longer growing stronger and healthier as a whole because it is politically/socially/religiously/whatever incorrect now to do what nature intended.

The majority of "Alpha Male" stuff out there is aimed at making you alpha, without really understanding this. Alpha Male is almost automatic once the man is healthy. He becomes what he was intended to be. Each man's natural degree of alpha-ness will vary of course, but regardless, it is the ultimate genetic arms race and it is what drives natural selection.

You made me so happy when you said that. Proof positive these programs are doing what they're designed to do. Thank you.

[WildFlower]

(04-20-2010 12:01 PM)Shannon Wrote:  

(04-20-2010 10:38 AM)WildFlower Wrote:  

(04-19-2010 09:35 PM)subadmin Wrote:  Very encouraging feedback. I've used the Sexiness sub, but not the Alpha set. Sounds like our Sexiness experiences have been pretty similar. Look forward to hearing about your journey. Have you tailored phero use with subliminals?

I'm very surprised at how invisible beliefs can be. Beliefs which have played a part on how I feel and how I interact with the world have been invisible to me all my life, and would seemingly remain invisible to me had I not invested in the Alpha sub. Beliefs completely invisible and out of reach to the concious mind. I still can't tell you what beliefs they where, and likewise I can't tell you what new beliefs are replacing then, but I can tell you I'm feeling the difference. I feel very refreshed. It isn't like I just stumbled upon the Alpha sub and thought I'd give it a go - a more confident mindset is something I've been working on for the past 4 years, pretty much all my adult life. I made a lot of changes, a lot of improvement and I was where I wanted to be. I bought the Alpha sub on the notion of tidying a few things up, clearing a few residual beliefs left from youth that I imagine most people have. Instead it's worked to remove beliefs I held about myself I didn't even know existed. I'm a much healthier man now which a much healthier mindset than before. All of this increases the extent to which I can make the sexiness sub work for me.

I can't say I've tailored my phero use with subliminals. I've relied on pheros a lot less recently and when I have worn them, it's really been something social like p74, p78, A1 and the like. Both subs and pheros are fantastic tools and suit each other perfectly. They are the only two things I can say which have helped me the better myself time and time again.

You have just hit the nail on the head. The Alpha set is designed with the primary goal of making a man healthier internally, intellectually, emotionally. In our current society, we as men are becoming less and less healthy, and that is where problems start happening. Women are designed to select the healthiest males for mating. They are also designed to ***** test us at every opportunity to make us prove our worth and our health before they give us eggs to fertilize.

Any time a woman has power she will use it to advance her genetic mission. This is manifesting in some very subtle and unexpected ways now, because we are seeing women being able to influence the minds of men through advertising, TV, and so on. One side effect of this appears to be that many Western societies have lost touch with the fact that men are supposed to play a specific role, just as women are supposed to play a specific role, and this is causing havoc with the health of men, women, marriages and relationships.

In those societies where men and women have definite and specific roles defined for them, where one is dominant to the other, we see a much better rate of successful marriage and healthy families over the long term. It ties in with the decay of capitalism (which eventually encourages consumers to consume for no good reason, and become lazy) and the rise of global communication. We are literally programming our minds every day with the barrage of media (Internet, TV, Radio magazines, etc.) and we aren't doing it with any idea how it affects us, which inevitably leads to some very unhealthy programming.

Making men healthy again is going to have a snowball effect. Healthy men are stronger, more confident, more self respecting, more decisive, more calm and collected, more present. Everything a woman is designed to seek in a mate. It is no wonder then, that making a man healthy in his thinking and beliefs and feelings produces... an Alpha Male! That's what we as men are designed to be. The strongest takes point, gets the most eggs has the most offspring, and improves the strength and health of the population. That's how we evolved. It's visible all around us every day - except in the human race, which has by and large become so screwed up with "societal influences" (errant belief systems) that we are no longer growing stronger and healthier as a whole because it is politically/socially/religiously/whatever incorrect now to do what nature intended.

The majority of "Alpha Male" stuff out there is aimed at making you alpha, without really understanding this. Alpha Male is almost automatic once the man is healthy. He becomes what he was intended to be. Each man's natural degree of alpha-ness will vary of course, but regardless, it is the ultimate genetic arms race and it is what drives natural selection.

You made me so happy when you said that. Proof positive these programs are doing what they're designed to do. Thank you.

I don't have a lot of time to reply properly at the moment, so I'll just explain briefly what I meant by healthier. When you said, "Alpha Male is almost automatic once the man is healthy", that's exactly what I meant by healthy. There aren't any beliefs holding me back from doing something I want, nor is there anyone making me crumble under pressure to do something I don't want. I simply behave, make decisions, and do things on what feels right in the moment. If I was putting on a fake Alpha Male attitude, that wouldn't be healthy either. I wanted the Alpha Male mindset when I first started the sub, but now, ironically, I'm completely apathetic to whether or not I'm an Alpha Male lol. Or whether I'm anything else for that matter. I'm content with who I am, whatever that may be. I'm less fixed, less definable, less reactive to beliefs I hold about myself, less reactive to beliefs other people hold about me. I'm reactive to what feels right. I feel completely cleansed.

I totally agree on your social commentary about men and society.

[Shannon]

Music to my eyes, my friend. You and I are getting the same results. By the way, that apathy to being alpha or not... means you're getting there. lol

[SirYuri]

Thought I'd just drop by. With the fantastic results that I'm reading right now I can't help myself but share one of the things I've noticed with using the Alpha Male sub.

Although, I'm only in my 2nd week. The thing that I would like to share is that, I used to get "emotionally sensitive" when the topic is about relationships. What I've noticed is that I used to consciously affirm to myself that "hey man, its ok." just to feel good about myself. Especially whenever past memories seems to pop out of nowhere. But now, I don't know if this is already the effect but i feel that I let-go easily of negative feelings.

Lastly, with regards to dealing with the opposite sex, it seems like things are not that a big deal anymore. Its like it doesn't matter or should I say it does not affect me or bothers me that much. The thing that I like is that it happens w/o conscious effort on my part. Can't wait to finish the entire program.

[Shannon]

SirYuri good to hear you're getting results already! Why not start a journal thread of your own?

[SirYuri]

(04-21-2010 09:05 AM)Shannon Wrote:  SirYuri good to hear you're getting results already! Why not start a journal thread of your own?

Thanks Shannon. I'll take note of starting a journal.

[Andrew]

Wildflower,

I got the Bach Rescue Remedy Spray to try it out last night. Says to use about two sprays. Used two this morning and tbh I'm quite a pessimistic tester but I noticed at the end of the day I was incredibly relaxed, and a lot of psychological barriers I have during the day and often have to overcome were just not even there. So I was presently surprised. I'm hoping it's not Placebo, going to try it again for a test tomorrow, but wanted your input. It says to use two, noticed you said 4 drops in your previous post.

I am curious to see as well how it affects my subliminal use and progress.

[Shannon]

Bach flower remedies appear to be in use by too many people successfully for it to be very likely a placebo.

[WildFlower]

(04-25-2010 09:32 PM)subadmin Wrote:  Wildflower,

I got the Bach Rescue Remedy Spray to try it out last night. Says to use about two sprays. Used two this morning and tbh I'm quite a pessimistic tester but I noticed at the end of the day I was incredibly relaxed, and a lot of psychological barriers I have during the day and often have to overcome were just not even there. So I was presently surprised. I'm hoping it's not Placebo, going to try it again for a test tomorrow, but wanted your input. It says to use two, noticed you said 4 drops in your previous post.

I am curious to see as well how it affects my subliminal use and progress.

I haven't tried the spray, only the drop version, although they are essentially the same thing. The drop can either be used directly on the tongue or mixed in water. I prefer it with water myself. I guess you spray the spray directly on to your tongue?

I had never heard of Bach drops until about a year ago a girl I was seeing pulled a little bottle out her bag and put some drops on her tongue. We where just about to go in to a busy shop. She later explained that she's uses them for Social Anxiety whenever in a busy public place. This totally took me by surprise as she seemed ridiculously confident. She insisted that she wasn't and that it was all Bach drops. She was adamant that they worked for her, so I had to give them a try.

Some people - including a few medical professionals - swear by homeopathy, whilst a lot of scientists say it's complete nonsense. Nothing more than a placebo. They can't both be right. There is actually an ongoing political row here in the UK as a few homeopathy treatments are funded by the NHS, and some argue it's wasted tax payers money. On the other side of the fence there are patients who have used the homeopathy medicine provided by the NHS as a last resort and are convinced that it cured them. Where all other treatments had failed. Clearly the jury is still out, and there is convincing evidence on either side. From the little I've read I gather the Bach drops work partly as a form of homeopathy and partly because the brain finds the scent/taste to be reassuring.

As for my own anecdotal evidence: My dog hates fireworks and trips to the vet, so I used a few drops of the Bach rescue remedy on her fur near her nose.Apparently you don't have to ingest the drops, and many people use them on there pets. I'm certain she was less distressed than usual the past few visits I've taken her to the vets. Maybe she's just getting use to going, or maybe I'm seeing things I want to see. They definitely seem to have a calming effect on me though and I'm pretty much convinced they work more than just placebo.

When I first started stage 3 of the Alpha set I had a bad week of persistent negative thoughts. It may have just been a bad week and had nothing to do with the Subliminal, but Either way the Bach drops helped me distant myself from my own thoughts and made me too relaxed to care about them.

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Anyway, I'm 10 days into Stage 4 now and I'm pretty sure I'm noticing a big difference in effects between Stage 3 and 4.

A few examples:

With the election coming up in 10 days here I was having a discussion on politics with my dad. I noticed I was totally happy not to get the last word in. Not because I felt beta - like I have previously around my dad in discussions - but because I felt alpha but didn't need to prove myself.

When driving to and from work the past week I've noticed I'm more considerate and polite to other drivers. Giving way just because I feel like it, even if it's my right of way. Little things like that. I keep doing lots of little things (not just when on the road lol) suggesting that I'm becoming more friendly and giving to others. and I'm pretty sure it's the sub causing these effects. This isn't nice guy, this is alpha guy who isn't an aggressive jerk.

Socially these past 10 days have been more light, jokey and happy than normal. I'm pretty sure stage 4 is continuing to cement the alpha image whilst also adding a more social-upbeat side to my personality and a greater patience for other people. Stage 4 seems to all be about the happy alpha.

[Shannon]

I haven't studied homeopathic stuff - I have less than an hour's worth of research into the subject under my belt - but I can say this. Science attempts to force all things to be validated through one way of thinking: logic. And many times, faulty logic. While logic is wonderful for understanding things, there are things that logic cannot and will not ever be able to understand, scrutinize or explain, which are quite valid. I'll ask a scientist for a definition of life - simple question, right? What is life? But science can't explain it, may never be able to, because "life" exists outside of the limited arena that logic alone can (currently) perceive.

Another example. Ask a scientist what the difference between the brain and the mind is. They don't know. They may give an answer that sounds pretty absolute and confident, but they don't know. And how do you explain a lot of things that are beyond logic alone to explain? Logically focused thinkers try - naturally - to understand everything through logic alone. We don't have one single brain though; we have two. One that specializes in logic, and one that specializes in emotion and intuition. I believe we have those two hemispheres of the brain because they are both necessary to have a complete view of the world around us.

It is my belief that science will never advance to true whole understanding of the world around us until we discover the "mathematics" (for want of a better word) that marries logic with - what to call it? Emotion? Illogic? Intuition? - which will finally allow us to explain these things.

That is to say... when you only have a left eye, anyone who sees something through a right eye will appear to be hallucinating (read: placebo effect).

I think that if scientists and "logical thinkers" would stop insisting that they already know everything, they might get somewhere. Instead they refuse to see what is there in a lot of cases simply because it does not conform to their rigid view of what is possible. Which leads us to "That can't be possible because if it is, my comfortable orderly view of the world might be wrong... and if it's wrong, then everything I know might need re-thinking... and that's just too (much work) (scary) whatever".

Not all scientists think like this... but there are plenty of them.

There are lots of things that work for lots of people, which science can't explain, and therefore simply tries to stonewall and ridicule out of existence.

As for Stage 4... you, sir, are a brilliant example of a perceptive user of my subliminals. lol Bravo again!

[WildFlower]

(04-26-2010 12:56 PM)Shannon Wrote:  I haven't studied homeopathic stuff - I have less than an hour's worth of research into the subject under my belt - but I can say this. Science attempts to force all things to be validated through one way of thinking: logic. And many times, faulty logic. While logic is wonderful for understanding things, there are things that logic cannot and will not ever be able to understand, scrutinize or explain, which are quite valid. I'll ask a scientist for a definition of life - simple question, right? What is life? But science can't explain it, may never be able to, because "life" exists outside of the limited arena that logic alone can (currently) perceive.

Another example. Ask a scientist what the difference between the brain and the mind is. They don't know. They may give an answer that sounds pretty absolute and confident, but they don't know. And how do you explain a lot of things that are beyond logic alone to explain? Logically focused thinkers try - naturally - to understand everything through logic alone. We don't have one single brain though; we have two. One that specializes in logic, and one that specializes in emotion and intuition. I believe we have those two hemispheres of the brain because they are both necessary to have a complete view of the world around us.

It is my belief that science will never advance to true whole understanding of the world around us until we discover the "mathematics" (for want of a better word) that marries logic with - what to call it? Emotion? Illogic? Intuition? - which will finally allow us to explain these things.

That is to say... when you only have a left eye, anyone who sees something through a right eye will appear to be hallucinating (read: placebo effect).

I think that if scientists and "logical thinkers" would stop insisting that they already know everything, they might get somewhere. Instead they refuse to see what is there in a lot of cases simply because it does not conform to their rigid view of what is possible. Which leads us to "That can't be possible because if it is, my comfortable orderly view of the world might be wrong... and if it's wrong, then everything I know might need re-thinking... and that's just too (much work) (scary) whatever".

Not all scientists think like this... but there are plenty of them.

There are lots of things that work for lots of people, which science can't explain, and therefore simply tries to stonewall and ridicule out of existence.

As for Stage 4... you, sir, are a brilliant example of a perceptive user of my subliminals. lol Bravo again!

I couldn't agree more.

As a child, and to this day, I've always had massive, massive respect and awe for nature; both at the biological level here on earth and on the level of the entire cosmos. The natural world just fascinated me. This meant I was heavily into science and I put all my faith in it. I believed that science had all the answers but that I didn't have the mind to appreciate those answers. A few years ago I had a shift in thinking, realised science doesn't have all the answers, and no longer put science on the pedestal I once did. I've just finished reading Bill Brysons, "a history of nearly everything", and wow, it's true we know hardly anything. I still read a lot of science books and magazines, but I now see science as just one of many sources of knowledge.

Like you said, reasoning based on logic is the foundation of science. Logic is a very valid way of examining things but it does have it's limitations. By it's very nature - self-confessed nature - logic is purely about reductionism. It is very good at cutting reality up into little pieces and then describing how, individually, each of those pieces behaves. What logic is not very good at, is seeing and describing things as a totality. Reductionism - and therefore logic - can never explain totality, only the parts that make totality. Logic creates jigsaw pieces.

The greatest scientists, are the greatest scientists because they have always been able to combine the logical aspects of pure mathematics and physics with more unique, less tangible ways of seeing and explaining things. I don't think there is a word for that, maybe you could call it 'trans-logic'? Logic not subject to reductionism. Newton loved science only second to alchemy, which was completely rejected by science at the time. Likewise, his scientific ideas where also rejected. Einstein is another example. His paper on special relatively was almost bare of mathematics. Relatively was essentially an idea or a thought (and not one you could reach using logic alone) that he later developed more mathematically as general relativity.

My own, personal experiences on, Pheromones, Subliminals, Spirituality and Zen meditation seem to contradict scientific opinion. I've grown to become comfortable with that but I'm sure it would be easy to disregard and dismiss me as a delusional, new-ager. Science is supposed to be impartial and non-biased but it seems more and more that it is becoming overly rational, and closed minded in the process.

[Shannon]

Indeed Newton is one of the most famous astrologers of all time. Astronomers and science in general like to forget that little inconvenient truth. They also like to forget that astronomy only came about as it was necessary for astrologers to know where the planets were in the past and present, as well as would be in the future. Astronomy is the child of astrology, and certainly is behaving like a know-it-all teenager in the last couple hundred years.

But I digress. I think you're right about the greatest scientists, though: they have a whole brain approach. They also accept that they don't know everything already which is what allows them to explore the boundaries. And I don't remember who said it, it ne'er was a truer thing said than the quote, "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." The herd think phenomenon is strong in scientific circles because the scientific community places too much value on things that just don't matter when it comes to understanding the mysteries and discovering truths, such as "What of someone laughs at me?" I get the whole "I need this funding" thing, but really... when you get to that point, the only thing that suffers is... the truth. And isn't that what science is supposed to be all about?

It amuses me that the history of science is littered with examples of someone discovering the truth, being drummed out of the "accepted scientific circles" and then dying penniless, only to have their ideas accepted as common sense by the very same establishment a hundred years later, after they couldn't deny it anymore. Whatever science says is impossible today, seems more than likely to be common sense in a hundred years.

That's not to say there's no value to science, of course. It's just frustrating to see the ridiculousness that "science" perpetrates in its quest for one answer to everything, while ignoring half of everything.

I'm ranting now. I'll get off my soap box.

[Clamshell]

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."

That's a quote from Einstein. Einstein even halted a lot of his research, because the universe was getting too weird for him and way out of his comfort zone.

Einstein was a terrible mathematician, that's a fact. And I'm not saying this to diss Einstein, as dissing Einstein would be ridiculous. He had the theories--those were truly his doing. But he had others do the math for him. That's why his theories were so devoid of math in the initial stages. Ironically, he's considered the greatest mathematician that ever lived. Despite the fact that many people believe he would never have come up with his theories if he were locked into the mindset of a mathematician.