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11-17-2016, 08:41 AM (This post was last modified: 11-17-2016 09:01 AM by chaosvrgn.)
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(11-15-2016 04:58 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote:  I've thought about this a lot and came to the conclusion that a lot of this is stupid. We already know that slavery for example was in Africa and other places before Caucasians even showed up but what is most interesting me is something realized after reading a lot of historical books.

There's a difference between the slavery that was practiced overseas and what happened here in America. Biblical slavery, Roman Slavery, et. al. was essentially a social class. There were laws to govern how slaves could be treated.

In the United States, slaves were chattel -- property. They had no rights. They weren't even looked at as human, which naturally led to the widespread mistreatment and downright cruelty of them. And worst of all, the institution of American slavery was intrinsically linked to race.

Why? The simplified version:

Well, in early American history, whites were pretty much enslaved also -- in the form of indentured servitude. The difference is, you could work your way out indentured servitude, but it was still a pretty shitty way to live. That being said, many white indentured servants began teaming up with black indentured servants and started ***** shit up. So, the powers that be created a system allowing white indentured servants to easily escape their servitude and become farmers, while damning black servants to chattel slavery. A divide began to form between the former allies as a new social class began to form. At the end of the day, the white indentured servants could think to themselves, "well, at least I'm not black."

Those systems still exist today, whether you experience them as a white person or not. As a black man in society, I'm not just going to bend over and take obvious injustices just because you think you're entitled to things for being white. Sorry, not happening. Some people out there really expect us to simply accept the idea of being inherently inferior and just go along with it. Not happening.

It's like the two officials that was removed from public office in West Virginia for calling Michelle Obama an "ape in high heels." Michelle Obama, whether you agree with her husband's policies or not, graduated from Princeton University with a BA and got her JD (law degree) from Harvard. Two time Ivy League graduate. She's more intelligent and worth more than the mayor of some backwater ***** town. Why is this relevant? Because it means, no matter how hard I try, no matter how hard I play by society's rules, I'll never be seen as more than an "ape" because I'm black -- despite the fact that the people who throw that kinda garbage is essentially useless.

The concept of white guilt is kinda silly and I personally don't ask any white person to apologize for being white. However, many of you refuse to acknowledge a few facts, and as a result, the opposing side (the left) begins to act out. Same way Trump rose to power. White Americans clearly felt that the left had taken things too far and manifested the embodiment of white masculinity to fight back.

I get it. I voted for the man.

But, I voted for the man because the left is completely out of touch when it comes to masculinity, economics, and yes to an extent, race relations. I didn't vote for him so that America could suddenly become a circle jerk over the idea of whiteness. In the last few days, I've had to question my decision. Here in the south, confederate flags are flying high again. In a nearby city, someone sprayed "Black lives don't matter, and neither does your vote," on a church wall. Someone sprayed a swastika on the local Mexican market in my town. People are getting bold.

I'll put it like this: I bust my ass, I build a business here, I pay my taxes, I'm joining the damn military to defend this country -- to defend my family, children and yours, and if any one thinks for one minute that I'm going to feel fear or believe that I'm inferior because of how much melanin is in my skin, you're out of your mind.

This isn't the 1950's, where you could call a black man "boy" and if he defied you, you could call up Jim Bob and the Boys and have yourselves a good ol' hanging. Call me a "boy," and you'll get to experience my killer left hook, right cross combo -- and Jim Bob can show up at my door if he wants -- I'm a fairly trained marksman.

Just remember that Trump is a better choice than Hillary, but he's not the "savior of White America." Your culture has some hard truths to face too, just like black people, just like mexicans, just like everyone. Like someone said above, everyone has skeletons.
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11-17-2016, 10:40 AM
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RE: The Politics Thread
It's intelligent people like you who are the solution. The swastikas and other acts of vandalism are done by complete morons and do in no way represent white people in general. Despite what the media has you believe, every white person I know LOVES minorities. Sincerely. But yeah, there's dumbass racists that live in trailer parks and **** their cousins. Do you really care what those clowns think?

I'm willing to work 100% with every race and treat them with respect, love, and dignity unconditionally because that's the American way.

I agree that there's shit that needs to be worked on. One of my best friends is a black guy who has had serious issues at work because the businesses are run by "old white guys". That really sucks. I can't possibly comprehend living in a country where all the Presidents ever and people in positions of power were a race different than mine. I've worked at places where the employees were predominantly minorities. I felt alienated and it helped me to put myself in the shoes of others.

Btw, I live in the South too and my relatives have Confederate flags. Our ancestor fought for the South and was shot and captured. They genuinely have no ill-will towards Black people whatsoever and focus more on heritage. Obviously, you will run into the dipshits who genuinely are racist. But remember, every culture has morons that **** it up for the rest of us.
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11-17-2016, 10:42 AM
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This is a very emotional topic for you, I already noticed in past. But:

(11-17-2016 08:41 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:  Why is this relevant? Because it means, no matter how hard I try, no matter how hard I play by society's rules, I'll never be seen as more than an "ape" because I'm black -- despite the fact that the people who throw that kinda garbage is essentially useless.

You are generalizing here. Not every white man (or woman) is seeing black people as apes.

Other than that, I also get the impression that the climate towards certain races is getting difficult in the US right now.

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11-17-2016, 11:46 AM
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(11-17-2016 10:40 AM)Geodude Wrote:  Btw, I live in the South too and my relatives have Confederate flags. Our ancestor fought for the South and was shot and captured. They genuinely have no ill-will towards Black people whatsoever and focus more on heritage. Obviously, you will run into the dipshits who genuinely are racist. But remember, every culture has morons that **** it up for the rest of us.

Yes, thanks to the healing in Shannon's subs, I've learned to (at least try) to stop generalizing white men and marking them all as racist. After all, the business mentor that literally, LITERALLY saved my life this year is a white man who's benefiting far less from our business arrangement than I am. He just saw a guy in trouble -- regardless of race -- and decided to help.

Likewise, look at Shannon. A white man with extraordinary abilities, who could say, "**** this morality shit" and use his skills purely for personal profit and gain.

It's kinda like this: You could have a giant, lake sized tub full of crystal, clear and clean water and if one drop of pee hits that pool, suddenly the entire thing is beyond reprieve. I don't want to look at my fellow mankind like that. But when you have a childhood like mine, it's tough. And when the media is constantly trying to beat you down, it gets even harder. And that goes for both sides -- white men being told they're sexist for trying to sit comfortably on a NYC subway, or that they're racist for this way or the other.

But everyone has to introspect and see how we can help each other heal -- it's not just the fault on one side.
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11-17-2016, 12:30 PM
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(11-17-2016 12:00 PM)yeah! Wrote:  Do you think a llot of black Americans have PTSD?

I'm not sure if I would call it PTSD, but I'd definitely call it an issue with self-worth and self-loathing. Laziness, procrastination -- Shannon will tell you that they're almost always a manifestation of fear and other issues.

That's definitely true in my case. Deep, subconscious wounds just festering with hate. Never realized how much of my potential was being suppressed until I began to remove that stuff.
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11-18-2016, 12:27 AM
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RE: The Politics Thread
Seeing how things are progressing it seems the media where I live still don't want to recognize Trump as the president. They are dropping propaganda everyday on him.
I'm have been wondering if history isn't going to repeat itself once again like with JFK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs

Trump seems to be the enemy to kill from their point of view, right now they are trying to kill his reputation with the media, second step is the physical attack if necessary or possible.

Trump is the first president since JFK to "associate"/talk openly with guys like Alex Jones which are term as conspiracy theorist by the media.

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11-18-2016, 01:32 AM
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(11-18-2016 12:27 AM)Alpha360 Wrote:  Seeing how things are progressing it seems the media where I live still don't want to recognize Trump as the president. They are dropping propaganda everyday on him.
I'm have been wondering if history isn't going to repeat itself once again like with JFK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs

Trump seems to be the enemy to kill from their point of view, right now they are trying to kill his reputation with the media, second step is the physical attack if necessary or possible.

Trump is the first president since JFK to "associate"/talk openly with guys like Alex Jones which are term as conspiracy theorist by the media.

Meh, I'm not surprised at all. They were trashing him and taking his words out of context the entire time he was even running. You would think after losing they would ask themselves, "Where did we go wrong?" and do some self reflection. Instead all you see is them doubling down, not even questioning if they did anything wrong, and just continuing with the attacks. Unfortunately for them I do believe a lot of people, a decent portion anyway, are not listening to their crap anymore if polling and their ratings are any indication. If I remember correctly, a poll done back in October said that only 30% of people, in the US anyway, trust the Mainstream media anymore. I have seen numbers as low as 6% in other polls on this issue. They are really hurting anything left of their credibility at this point with this doubling down. For example, the New York times recently had to issue a apology to its readers for their bad and bias coverage of the election because a lot of their readers cancelled their subscription.

The thing that really annoys me though is Clinton's supporters at this point. Still rioting a week and a half after the election results. Destroying property and beating up people who didn't vote like them. So very "tolerant" of them. The funny thing though is that they are all rioting in cities that voted Clinton. All they are doing is hurting their cause and pushing other people to the other side by doing this. Also doesn't help when you have shit like this happen nowadays:





Guy just wanted the name Trump on his cup the day after the election, probably as some memento, and the guy refused to do it even though he called the corporate office for Starbucks and they said he could have any name he wanted on the cup. Guy still refuses and calls the cops on him for it. I swear this new generation is pathetic and gets triggered over everything. Sometimes I just wish they would get over themselves and grow a pair. I really hope Shannon's business takes off and AM7 becomes popular. Its very needed in my opinion. This generation really needs to grow a thicker skin and stop being triggered by every little thing.

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01-08-2017, 11:30 AM
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RE: The Politics Thread
So, Anyone been keeping up with this "blame Russia" and "fake news" crap that's been going on? I'm just asking because I know some people who are generally intelligent and they are actually falling for this stuff. Its like all these people want a new cold war. It seems like 2003 all over again and no one has learned. For example, They say that 17 different intelligence agencies agree that the Russian's hacked the election. What everyone seems to forget is that there is a interview with Colen Powell years ago where he says, "It is the agreement of 16 different intelligence agencies that Saddam Hussein has Weapons of mass destruction". Hmm I think I've heard this stuff somewhere before >_>'.

Anyway, I think this picture explains its best(eh, except for the socialist part imo):

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01-08-2017, 12:27 PM (This post was last modified: 01-08-2017 12:32 PM by RisingSon.)
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RE: The Politics Thread
Politics thread? Right up my alley. I spent years on 4chan/pol/. Don't go there, kid. It will wreck your mind. Heh...

Check this entertaining video on the personality type of Trump according to a Canadian psychologist.
Are you self-destructive? Ignorantly irrational? A Trump hater? Alpha, or beta?




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Trump just called CNN fake news, LOL!





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(01-11-2017 03:22 PM)Travis Wrote:  Trump just called CNN fake news, LOL!





We live in interesting times.

Darn, you beat me to it. I was just thinking about posting that. It was fxxx'in hilarious! Trump definitely doesn't have time for nonsense and people who don't respect him and he has the balls to call them out on it rofl!

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01-25-2017, 01:02 AM
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Perfect.

"Youre on a bicycle and you're oblivious" followed by alot of shrieking pretty much sums up the way these retards act and the dumbass arguments they have.



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01-25-2017, 05:26 AM (This post was last modified: 01-25-2017 05:28 AM by Daredevil.)
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(01-25-2017 01:02 AM)Benjamin Wrote:  Perfect.

"Youre on a bicycle and you're oblivious" followed by alot of shrieking pretty much sums up the way these retards act and the dumbass arguments they have.




What rights do Men have in western civilization that women don't, I don't know how women are oppressed. Can you tell me why?


Also I thought SJW were all for saving the environment. If he's on a bicycle that means he is cutting down on pollution

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01-25-2017, 06:49 AM
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I didn't really care about trump vs. hillary until I saw a debate. I hate Clinton but trump just sounds like a buffoon. Either way they're both shitty options so whatever. Mankind has dug its own hole so they can enjoy it lol.

I did note the differences between the two's supporters during the election, though. Mostly out in public and when I'd catch conversations. Trump had the old redneck vote locked down, and Hillary was spoon feeding dipshit hipster kids their own nonsense. Not saying that supporters either way are only of a certain type, but its always funny to see who the loud talkers are supporting.

Too bad neither of them were smart enough to get everyone behind them. Conservatives lemming themselves off cliffs for reminders of the good old days lazines and liberals love progressive and inclusive laziness.

CHANGE! America can be great again, and better for everyone! Lol


@risingson man I tried to watch that video as it seemed like it could be interesting. The first five minutes was of the guy getting nowhere so I quit. I understand that he has to go over that stuff as most individuals are unaware of themselves but it was boring me to tears. I assume it gets better but damn.
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01-27-2017, 11:15 AM
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(01-25-2017 06:49 AM)Nox Wrote:  I didn't really care about trump vs. hillary until I saw a debate. I hate Clinton but trump just sounds like a buffoon. Either way they're both shitty options so whatever. Mankind has dug its own hole so they can enjoy it lol.

I did note the differences between the two's supporters during the election, though. Mostly out in public and when I'd catch conversations. Trump had the old redneck vote locked down, and Hillary was spoon feeding dipshit hipster kids their own nonsense. Not saying that supporters either way are only of a certain type, but its always funny to see who the loud talkers are supporting.

Too bad neither of them were smart enough to get everyone behind them. Conservatives lemming themselves off cliffs for reminders of the good old days lazines and liberals love progressive and inclusive laziness.

CHANGE! America can be great again, and better for everyone! Lol


@risingson man I tried to watch that video as it seemed like it could be interesting. The first five minutes was of the guy getting nowhere so I quit. I understand that he has to go over that stuff as most individuals are unaware of themselves but it was boring me to tears. I assume it gets better but damn.

There was a reason Trump was made to look like a Buffoon. Its because the Mainstream media was in the tank for Hilary. Originally I was going to sit this race out but as soon as I started questioning what everyone else said the media reporting I realized it was just blatant lies and when wikileaks dumped all those Hillary clinton emails it exposed a lot of corruption both within the establishment of both parties and the Media. The reason I say he was portrayed a certain way was there was a particular leak that exposed a Private dinner thrown by Hillary's campaign adviser where they essentially were colluding on how they were going to win it for Hillary.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/...-advisors/

Notice that, 65 different MSM reporters were in the tank for hillary (whether for kickbacks or they just agree with her). Now tell me, knowing this do you think these people were exactly objective and honest in their reporting? or were they reporting with a agenda? Also, did you know there's a email that was leaked where it shows Hillary was trying to pull strings to elevate Trump on the republican side because she thought she could win against him (Opps, guess that didn't work out like planned). I should point out to that I had not trusted the mainstream media for years since I worked for top secret work in the Navy. I caught them telling lies or covering up stuff plenty of times so I haven't trusted a word they say for years (Don't trust the government either since I use to work for it).

With that said, I'm not some fervent Trump supporter either, if he messes up I'm going to call him out on it. So far though he hasn't done anything bad and has actually worked to keep his promises unlike most politicians. On the supporters side, that was also a media lie and trying to convince you to think a certain way. Trump actually got the most support from minorities of any recent republican candidate and also got the majority of the white women vote. This is a far cry from the "just rednecks" narrative that the media was trying to sell everyone. Many of these people were also former Sanders supports who, after they found out Hillary rigged the primary, voted for Trump out of spite.

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01-27-2017, 11:55 AM (This post was last modified: 01-27-2017 11:57 AM by Nox.)
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(01-27-2017 11:15 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote:  
(01-25-2017 06:49 AM)Nox Wrote:  I didn't really care about trump vs. hillary until I saw a debate. I hate Clinton but trump just sounds like a buffoon. Either way they're both shitty options so whatever. Mankind has dug its own hole so they can enjoy it lol.

I did note the differences between the two's supporters during the election, though. Mostly out in public and when I'd catch conversations. Trump had the old redneck vote locked down, and Hillary was spoon feeding dipshit hipster kids their own nonsense. Not saying that supporters either way are only of a certain type, but its always funny to see who the loud talkers are supporting.

Too bad neither of them were smart enough to get everyone behind them. Conservatives lemming themselves off cliffs for reminders of the good old days lazines and liberals love progressive and inclusive laziness.

CHANGE! America can be great again, and better for everyone! Lol


@risingson man I tried to watch that video as it seemed like it could be interesting. The first five minutes was of the guy getting nowhere so I quit. I understand that he has to go over that stuff as most individuals are unaware of themselves but it was boring me to tears. I assume it gets better but damn.

There was a reason Trump was made to look like a Buffoon. Its because the Mainstream media was in the tank for Hilary. Originally I was going to sit this race out but as soon as I started questioning what everyone else said the media reporting I realized it was just blatant lies and when wikileaks dumped all those Hillary clinton emails it exposed a lot of corruption both within the establishment of both parties and the Media. The reason I say he was portrayed a certain way was there was a particular leak that exposed a Private dinner thrown by Hillary's campaign adviser where they essentially were colluding on how they were going to win it for Hillary.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/...-advisors/

Notice that, 65 different MSM reporters were in the tank for hillary (whether for kickbacks or they just agree with her). Now tell me, knowing this do you think these people were exactly objective and honest in their reporting? or were they reporting with a agenda? Also, did you know there's a email that was leaked where it shows Hillary was trying to pull strings to elevate Trump on the republican side because she thought she could win against him (Opps, guess that didn't work out like planned). I should point out to that I had not trusted the mainstream media for years since I worked for top secret work in the Navy. I caught them telling lies or covering up stuff plenty of times so I haven't trusted a word they say for years (Don't trust the government either since I use to work for it).

With that said, I'm not some fervent Trump supporter either, if he messes up I'm going to call him out on it. So far though he hasn't done anything bad and has actually worked to keep his promises unlike most politicians. On the supporters side, that was also a media lie and trying to convince you to think a certain way. Trump actually got the most support from minorities of any recent republican candidate and also got the majority of the white women vote. This is a far cry from the "just rednecks" narrative that the media was trying to sell everyone. Many of these people were also former Sanders supports who, after they found out Hillary rigged the primary, voted for Trump out of spite.

I think you may have misunderstood me. I think he's a buffoon from watching him speak during the debate. I don't trust the media or any government agency to be honest. I've worked with, for or dealt with too many lol

I also said how I'm sure that rednecks aren't Trump's only supporters. They're just the obvious loudmouths I saw. Honestly I don't care. I've hated Hillary Clinton for years and of course she's corrupt. That doesn't mean I don't also hate Trump and think he's an equally shitty human being.

I'm actually rather happy that Trump win because he's funnier to watch make an ass of himself. Clinton just did the standard politician sillyness. Trump is making far better use of the "I know you are but what am I?" and "Nuh uh!" classic arguments haha
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02-10-2017, 06:42 AM
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RE: The Politics Thread
This poll argument about updates is just like The Left and The Right.

The Left wants The Man to decide everything for us, and The Right wants the right to choose.

Give us the right to choose, we're all adults (I think). You don't want updates? Don't read them. You don't want drama? Don't be part of it. But don't force something to be the case because you can't handle it.
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02-10-2017, 08:01 AM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2017 08:03 AM by Alpha360.)
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RE: The Politics Thread
You can also see it the other way, you can't handle to wait, the update will come but later, can't you wait 2 weeks or a month. You will know but later when you can't get crazy about it because the toy is already in your hand and you might even say mehh!!! it's not crazy as I would have thought if Shannon would have told me I would get a blo*job by this stunning 10 Big Grin

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02-10-2017, 08:13 AM (This post was last modified: 02-10-2017 08:16 AM by RTBoss.)
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RE: The Politics Thread
Shannon said he enjoys updating, because he gets to share the joy of what he's doing with the rest of us.

Furthermore, the point is CHOICE. It doesn't matter if someone "can't handle the wait." For those who can't (and so what), they get to read the updates and chat about it if they want. They get to get crazy about if they want. Choice.
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02-10-2017, 08:13 AM
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RE: The Politics Thread
Shannon deserves to be able to go dark if he chooses. Give the man a banana.

However, once he unleashes DMSI 3.1 fury for all of us to experience, it would be considerate if he at least disclosed a few of these super secret awesome technologies that are getting ridiculous amounts of acronyms.
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