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11-03-2017, 03:01 PM (This post was last modified: 11-03-2017 03:29 PM by SargeMaximus.)
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So, just got back from getting my hair cut.

Right away I could tell attraction was down. The first girl (big tit arab) seemed friendly but less enthused to talk to me. Even saying "thank you" to her for telling me my hairdresser would be out shortly felt beta and chasing. I also "pecked" (quick lean-in) when I said it. *facepalm*

Hair dresser was out promptly. No delays this time.

Not much EC held between us. I notice I'm not holding EC very well. In fact, I'm very avoidant in my EC until some times when I just make it effortlessly.

When getting my hair cut, I made her laugh a few times but mostly she was complaining to me about her sons living with her. She said "The sex wasn't worth it"

then we switched topics onto a trip she took to a neighbouring city. She mentioned a guy texted her to come over. She never said if she did but it was heavily implied. She was like "He's a sexy firefighter. He's hot... REALLY hot." then she denied doing anything (I didn't ask, she just went "but nah, we didn't do anything etc") and started qualifying the guy to me "he's done well for himself. He's a chief now, etc etc"

I was all like "right on, good for him" (I used to do that with girls, pump up their BF while they told me about him and it seemed to work) but honestly, right now I just feel like I'm in AFC land. Worse than AFC actually.

When we were up at the front paying, my HD dropped something. Perfect opportunity to give a butt display, but she did not. Also, she said her goodbyes and left before done which has NEVER happened.

I wonder how much DMSI blinded me to how I was, because if my "leaning in" behavior and stuff was always there, that could explain a lot of things. I think maybe DMSI just made me not care.

HOWEVER, because of these recent developments I'm thinking of going back on DMSI to get back the attraction that seemed to be there. but now I'm completely confused.

Was DMSI helping me or just hiding things from me? Was it making me ignorant of the way I am? If it was, going back on it isn't a solution at all.

It's like people played "lets make Sarge THINK he's attractive!" while never being attracted to me at all.

I never thought I'd be so confused. After getting into sales I thought I was making some real progress in my life, then this year came along and took the rug out from under me. I also have no idea what to work on first. I've been trying to work on my social skills, but I think that's made me more beta than anything.

ION, shovelled my landlord's sidewalk (first time I've done it since moving here 5 years ago). I figured I owed himj one for the food and replacing my battery for me. I REALLY don't want to be a POS leech.

While shovelling, the neighbour woman came out of her house to the car and said hi. I said how are you, she said fine, how are you? I said pretty good thank you. and that was that.

Made me realize MOST interactions with women simply happen because you are THERE at the time, and most interactions are simply social niceties.

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11-05-2017, 12:51 AM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Watched a bunch of "Charisma on Command" videos. They definitely helped. At least in talking with my brother, things were a lot smoother.

It's like socializing is an unstoppable train, and you can only steer it, so you gotta steer it right.

Take laughter, for example. If you tell a joke and laugh first, it kills it (or at least, puts massive strain on things) but if you laugh only after (if) the other person (people) laugh, then things flow a LOT more and often the laughter COMPOUNDS and grows in intensity and quantity. It's also easier to laugh this way because you are inspired to laugh because the other person laughed. It's actually really fascinating but also very fun.

I love learning this stuff and putting it into practice.

Definitely gonna get the charisma university (Big shout out to AwesomeDMSI for recommending it) as soon as I can afford it.

Which reminds me: I'm officially looking for another job. I still have time on my contract so I don't NEED one yet, but once my contract expires I'll be out of money instantly.

It is my hope that learning social skills via charisma university will be the key I need to open up my success. I have tremendous motivation, capability, resiliance, and determination, but I've ALWAYS had problems with people. So it's time to address that issue.

I imagine that once I have that figured out, I'll be unstoppable. It's really all I need.

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11-05-2017, 11:28 PM
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I don't know if it's the dmsi bloom or the AM programming kicking in, but I'm feeling and acting so much more confident lately.

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11-06-2017, 03:15 PM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Really feeling nostalgia for last year when I was getting all that attention from my HD today. Feeling a strong tug to try to get with her again.

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11-07-2017, 09:02 AM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Hey Guys!

There is a lot of context in here so bear with me. I promise it IS mostly about me.

Anyhow, went to the same bar with my cousin last night.

Server was the hostess who seated me monday.

As soon as she saw me she smiled huge and said "Good to see you again!". I didn't think much of it at the time.

When our nachos come out, the girl is my server from monday. She smiled at me but said nothing. I waved at her.

At one point, I notice a LOUD guy talking (yelling) at a girl across the bar from him. They go back and forth for a while. She's laughing a lot.

He was SO bad tho in his verbals. Saying things like "You're PERFECT!" and stuff in regards to her looks

My cousin was like "Oh man. Ugh!" and I was like "I know. I'm SO glad I know not to be like that at least."

Anyhow, this guy went over and sat beside the girl. She didn't object. They're talking more. He buys her drinks, touches her a bit and she LOUDLY and verbally says things like "NO TOUCHING!" and stuff.

I'm curious because I am assuming I'm watching a natural pick up a girl, but as time goes on I figure "ok, he's either going to be making out with her or leaving with her soon, or he'll be blown out."

Finally he leaves, clearly blown out.

Now it's just that girl, and some others.

That girl goes and sits beside a guy who's kind of old.

Then, suddenly, she starts YELLING at me and my cousin "OMG! HOT DATE OVER THERE?!?"

Neither of us look at her and keep talking.

She yells it louder, the same thing.

We still don't look. Then I hear her say "Oh my GOD!" to her friend who was with her.

She then yells even louder "HEY! HOT DATE OVER THERE?!?"

I look at her, wave in a "you're being awkward but I'll acknowledge you" way.

My cousin looks at her and says "yeah it is."

I then decide to say something. I look at her and say "are you waiting for the makeout or something?"

She's like "WHAT?!?"

I'm like "Are you waiting to watch us make out?"

Her friend laughs, so does she but then she goes "Oh sorry, I'm just trying to get you drunk blah blah" I don't actually know what she said.

My cousin and I left shortly thereafter.

Now, not gonna lie: I would liked to have ***** that girl, but I also didn't like her because she was obnoxious and loud and rude.

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11-07-2017, 11:30 AM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
More DMSI Ideas from doing door-to-door sales:

So today I went back to some houses I've been at before to bring brochures and try to set apps.

I nearly got one. The woman was very receptive, invited me into her house, was asking a lot of questions, just perfect, definitely an ideal situation, one I thought I had in the bag.

But when I asked "When would be a good time for you and your husband?" She began backing out, made a million excuses, and try as I might, I couldn't salvage it. I had destroyed the entire interaction.

Why? Because I was asking for a commitment.

I think DMSI may be projecting this in some way.

I think back to when I went out with my HD on our second date and she was already bringing up me as her BF, saying things like "I have a lot of friends who have young guys as their BF's" and other such things.

IF (notice the word "IF") DMSI is projecting onto girls a sort of "soul mates or bust" (which I believe it is) then this will hurt our chances, EVEN with girls that may otherwise be into us. Why? Because it's too much, too soon.

Shannon may know how human beings work, but not many human beings do, and the unknown is always going to stir up fear.

Better to have people DISCOVER they click through taking the chance than have them KNOW they will.

Too much certainty can also take the fun out of things.

So yeah, that's my idea for today: Make DMSI more open. Allow the user and girls to just f*ck and find out if they work or not AFTER the fact.

I'm sure I lost a strong potential client today because of this, let's not make the same mistake with DMSI.

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11-08-2017, 11:33 AM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Soulmates? Nah I don't think so. Shannon has emphasized that dmsi is sex focused only. Just being sexually attractive, no romance or relationship stuff in there.

As far as dmsi blinding you. I think this is the perfect example of reality bending. DMSI didn't blind you to some truth. You created your own truth and lived that reality. Coming off dmsi you lost that as resistance resurfaced as well as old beliefs about your attractiveness.

Here's my theory. DMSI is so powerful you can basically live 2 mindsets at once. Your self defeatists one and the empowering one. Whichever one you feed more grows. If you leave dmsi and that defeated side is more prominent it self regenerates and pushes out the positive.

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11-08-2017, 12:24 PM (This post was last modified: 11-08-2017 12:24 PM by SargeMaximus.)
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(11-08-2017 11:33 AM)mat422 Wrote:  Soulmates? Nah I don't think so. Shannon has emphasized that dmsi is sex focused only. Just being sexually attractive, no romance or relationship stuff in there.

Yes but he also said that we'll only attract girls that are on our "frequency" (he used a radio analogy). That sounds an awful lot like soulmates to me, especially if you get super strict.

Combine that with the anti-sniper warding off "unnacceptably unhappiness causing" and it could easily leave you with no women except those who are EXACTLY like you.

I'm not saying that's what's going on, but it's possible, and another reason why I think the anti sniper needs tweaking.

(11-08-2017 11:33 AM)mat422 Wrote:  As far as dmsi blinding you. I think this is the perfect example of reality bending. DMSI didn't blind you to some truth. You created your own truth and lived that reality. Coming off dmsi you lost that as resistance resurfaced as well as old beliefs about your attractiveness.

Here's my theory. DMSI is so powerful you can basically live 2 mindsets at once. Your self defeatists one and the empowering one. Whichever one you feed more grows. If you leave dmsi and that defeated side is more prominent it self regenerates and pushes out the positive.

Interesting theory.

To me, there are certain things that NEED to be done (like relating to the girl for example) and if you can't do that, it doesn't matter what your beliefs are.

You can believe that if you jump off the top of a skyscraper without any parachute you'll survive, but you won't.

Personally, I don't see that as being self-defeatist at all. It's just common sense.

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11-08-2017, 02:39 PM
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I think Shannon was speaking more solely on a sexually-compatible idea of frequency. He specifically uses the terminology "attract the most sexually attractive person possible", meaning your subconscious' idea of the perfect most sexually compatible partner in every feasible way.

This is one of the reasons why I'm out on the DMSI train. I actually don't want just sex. I'd much rather slowly get to know a woman over an extended period of time, let the tension, emotion, and overall bond grow, and then when sex finally comes, I'm hopeful it will be that much better.

My first sexual experience came while blooming from DMSI and also running AM's refresher stage. I was seriously unatttracted to the girl, met her on tinder, had about two drinks with her in the span of an hour before taking her back to my place. Not only was the sex really not that great, but I felt really ***** up and emotionally scarred inside from doing it. Looking back on it, it was actually a negative experience in my life, and not really the slightest bit positive.

If you really seem to be attracted to your HD--which seems to be the case, since it's been almost an entire year and you haven't moved on from her just yet--then DMSI will eventually win out. But AM6 and either SM or WM I'm assuming could have the same desired effect.

I'm planning on returning to subs very shortly and will be running the AM refresher stage with the express intention of running WM directly after. A lot of my life worries, doubts and fears have been oozing away from me with the help of alternative forms of therapy, and now I'd like to finally become that social magnetic playboy that I've always dreamed about. DMSI won't help me with that--it just makes you physically and sexually irresistibly attractive, in particular to the type of woman--both personality wise, attractiveness wise, and sexuality-wise (think dom/sub or fetishes and such)--that you are the most sexually compatible with. It could be that your HD fits with your physical standards of attraction, but sexually, subconsciously, she's not compatible. Maybe she's got a hidden fetish, or is more naturally submissive/dominant than you'd like. Your subconscious picked up on this and the anti-sniper is now driving her away, or at least positioning her in a state of flux, where you want her, and are creating on and off again feelings of attraction in her, but you can't seem to get over that hump with her yet because you're not completely compatible.

On DMSI, I noticed I became more sexually attractive, in the mirror I could see myself becoming more good looking, but it was in an almsot boy-bandish effeminte way. I noticed that the girls that smiled at me, stared at me, or said "hi" to me as I passed by them on the street wore aggressive styles of makeup. They seemed more aggressive and dominant. I'm much more "submissive" when it comes to sex--I like an aggressive woman who chases the man, I like sexualy aggressive "tigress" types of women who lust after me. But most women in the two cities I've lived in who are physically attractive to me are younger women living in NYC or LA--two of the most vapid, elite places in the world--so most girls my age who I'd be attracted to want "lions" or "alpha males".

I know I'm kind of going off on a tangent here--but I don't think DMSI is desined to get you your "soul mate"--far from that, in fact. It's designed to get you the girl you're most sexually compatible with, at the most raw, primal, carnal level. I think a "soul mate" is more about a woman you bond with just as strongly sexually as you do emotionally. That's exactly what I'm after in my life right now, and I think AM6 and something like WM may do that trick exponentially better than something like DMSI, which, as Mat stated, is purely designed for raw, carnal, sexual attraction.

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11-08-2017, 02:39 PM (This post was last modified: 11-08-2017 02:41 PM by SargeMaximus.)
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Did some D2D thios morning. Went to some houses I set appointments for to chat with the peoiple there and see how we could improve things for them.

The one guy was obviously not interested. Very depressed seeming, I felt sorry for him, but I'm not a psychologist and didn't want to take on his problems.

The other guy was happy to see me but told me that the sales guy never showed up! I was outraged. I called my supervisor and left a message but he hasn't got back to me. Not sure what the f*ck is going on.

I'm going to keep going back to houses I've been to this year to see if I can make sense of what happened this year.

EDIT: ION went and got my teeth cleaned. The girl was a cute arabic chick. TYalked a bit, I made her laugh, mostly silendce tho. I forgot to go into the golden small talk topics (relationships, travel, or hobbies). Have to remember to do that.

I hope to go approaching today but I'm busy doing house work. We'll see.

I go to the gym later tho.

Getting stronger. Smile

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11-08-2017, 06:20 PM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Shit, I didn't see this till now. My bad Kalmah!

First let me say thanks for stopping by and offering your viewpoint. I really appreciate it. Smile


(11-08-2017 02:39 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote:  I think Shannon was speaking more solely on a sexually-compatible idea of frequency. He specifically uses the terminology "attract the most sexually attractive person possible", meaning your subconscious' idea of the perfect most sexually compatible partner in every feasible way.

This is one of the reasons why I'm out on the DMSI train. I actually don't want just sex. I'd much rather slowly get to know a woman over an extended period of time, let the tension, emotion, and overall bond grow, and then when sex finally comes, I'm hopeful it will be that much better.

I hear you. I'm more of a "friends with benefits" guy. I want the friend/bond/relationship/chemistry part, but I also want the relationship to primarily be about sex.

I have no interest in one night stands. I'd do it if the girl was hot and didn't repulse me (like the one at the bar I wrote about) but I do rather have a girl I can enjoy her company too. Like my hairdresser Whistle

(11-08-2017 02:39 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote:  My first sexual experience came while blooming from DMSI and also running AM's refresher stage. I was seriously unatttracted to the girl, met her on tinder, had about two drinks with her in the span of an hour before taking her back to my place. Not only was the sex really not that great, but I felt really ***** up and emotionally scarred inside from doing it. Looking back on it, it was actually a negative experience in my life, and not really the slightest bit positive.

That sucks man. But if DMSI is working, I don't see how you could get with a girl who is unattractive to you. So you got with her on your own. Kudos. Thumbsup #SilverLining

(11-08-2017 02:39 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote:  If you really seem to be attracted to your HD--which seems to be the case, since it's been almost an entire year and you haven't moved on from her just yet--then DMSI will eventually win out. But AM6 and either SM or WM I'm assuming could have the same desired effect.

Yeah maybe. I hope so. I really like her, she seems to like me, she's got hang ups about our age as far as I can tell, that and her 2 kids are living with her again so logistics are impossible.

It's not oneitis I don't think because it's not like I'm ignoring all other women (I'm trying my best to get more plates spinning lol). But I just believe you can't and shouldn't abandon a good thing. It's not like she's just taking my money (always gives me a discount, and recently gave me an even bigger one because she kept me waiting. So she's not treating me badly).

She's at least open to my touch and touches me (though the crazy ioi's are gone).

All that's left is us getting together which seems to be the real issue. I know guys would say "Bro, she's not interested, move on!" but I'm not losing anything by getting my hair cut by her and flirting.

I would like something physical though. This last month I REALLY been missing her kisses which I remember (thanks DMSI 3.0.1a for that, and Shannon of course! Got me my first makeouts! Drinks )

(11-08-2017 02:39 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote:  I'm planning on returning to subs very shortly and will be running the AM refresher stage with the express intention of running WM directly after. A lot of my life worries, doubts and fears have been oozing away from me with the help of alternative forms of therapy, and now I'd like to finally become that social magnetic playboy that I've always dreamed about.

Dude, this is GREAT news! Congrats!

If it's not too personal, what therapies have you tried? Which gave you the best results?

I myself have gone to over 10 therapists in my life and none of them really helped, but one of them I really liked. She was very "No BS" with me and I responded well.


(11-08-2017 02:39 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote:  DMSI won't help me with that--it just makes you physically and sexually irresistibly attractive, in particular to the type of woman--both personality wise, attractiveness wise, and sexuality-wise (think dom/sub or fetishes and such)--that you are the most sexually compatible with.

I hear you. Thgis is why I think DMSI should have social skills programming.

(11-08-2017 02:39 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote:  It could be that your HD fits with your physical standards of attraction, but sexually, subconsciously, she's not compatible. Maybe she's got a hidden fetish, or is more naturally submissive/dominant than you'd like. Your subconscious picked up on this and the anti-sniper is now driving her away, or at least positioning her in a state of flux, where you want her, and are creating on and off again feelings of attraction in her, but you can't seem to get over that hump with her yet because you're not completely compatible.

Maybe, but this just further proves my point that DMSI needs to relax on the anti-sniper. Most people have sex with people and then discover they aren't compatible and move on. If DMSI does this for us, it's robbing us of valuable experiences. Besides, you can't know what you like till you try.

I doubt my HD is a serial killer, so if she is being anti-sniped, there's no good reason for it, imo.

(11-08-2017 02:39 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote:  On DMSI, I noticed I became more sexually attractive, in the mirror I could see myself becoming more good looking, but it was in an almsot boy-bandish effeminte way. I noticed that the girls that smiled at me, stared at me, or said "hi" to me as I passed by them on the street wore aggressive styles of makeup. They seemed more aggressive and dominant. I'm much more "submissive" when it comes to sex--I like an aggressive woman who chases the man, I like sexualy aggressive "tigress" types of women who lust after me. But most women in the two cities I've lived in who are physically attractive to me are younger women living in NYC or LA--two of the most vapid, elite places in the world--so most girls my age who I'd be attracted to want "lions" or "alpha males".

I know I'm kind of going off on a tangent here--but I don't think DMSI is desined to get you your "soul mate"--far from that, in fact. It's designed to get you the girl you're most sexually compatible with, at the most raw, primal, carnal level. I think a "soul mate" is more about a woman you bond with just as strongly sexually as you do emotionally. That's exactly what I'm after in my life right now, and I think AM6 and something like WM may do that trick exponentially better than something like DMSI, which, as Mat stated, is purely designed for raw, carnal, sexual attraction.

I hear you. It sucks that you don't have the kinds of girls you want where you live, or at least, when on DMSI, you noticed this fact.

IF DMSI is designed to get you the girl your most sexually compatible with, it's just as bad (IMO) because (as you found) maybe there aren't enough of the girls you click with around you. Maybe (in my case?) there aren't enough of them in the WORLD, so what I'd like is a sub to let me grow as a person, and experience all kinds of girls. DMSI was supposed to get me the girls I find attractive. ME, the girls I want. What's the point if it doesn't accomplish this?

With my HD, we have fun, we make each other laugh, good vibes are had by all. What's wrong with that? Is it perfect? No. Will I marry her? No. But could we have fun with each other? Yes. So why not?

IMO, DMSI may be removing the "why not?" possibility, which is wrong on so many levels.

So maybe it's not "soul-mate or bust" but it may be "perfect/most-compatible or bust" which is just as bad. IMO

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11-09-2017, 02:57 PM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Almost done reading "Way of the Wolf".

Jordan Belfort is becoming my favorite Self-help guy. He really knows his shit and it works when you use it.

I'm trying to find where I'm going wrong in regards to sales and my performance this year and it's too difficult to say right now. As always, the only way to get clarity is to test things out in the field.

I will say this: the idea of ethics and only using the persuasion power to persuade people to do things they SHOULD do (as opposed to getting them to do things just so that I benefit) has been a major factor this year. Even in regards to women. I constantly wonder "Am I the best man for this woman?" and I can never produce an answer because I don't know what makes a good man. I wish there were some good resources for that. Maybe Jordan Belfort will make a "How to be a good man, husband, and father" book, but I doubt it.

There's a saying in the medical profession: Do no harm.

I like to think I try to live by that as best I can. I'd rather not have a girl than have one and f*ck things up. But maybe that's too idealistic. I dunno.

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11-09-2017, 08:43 PM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Lately I've been hitting on a pretty strong belief I have, which is basically that for me to be happy/successful/rich/good with women/whatever, other people must NOT be.

As if there's no possibility of us both getting what we want.

Just something I'm noticing atm.

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11-10-2017, 12:19 PM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Did some D2D this morning. Only talked to one guy. I was SO nervous and timid. I felt like shit. All my confidence I gained from doing sales and overcoming my fears is gone right now. It feels like I'm cowering in a corner of my own mind.

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11-10-2017, 10:59 PM (This post was last modified: 11-10-2017 11:00 PM by SargeMaximus.)
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
This belief of "Women only like me, go out with me, etc to be nice" is surfacing. It's a strong one.

Also in sales "people only set apps with me because they like me, not because they actually want what I'm selling"

So, in effect, I'm trying to get women to want me and people to want to buy from me without liking me. It's almost like people liking me isn't a valid reason for them to want to buy or be attracted to me, or them being nice isn't valid.

I think that has really undermined my confidence (and results) this year. I remember back when chaos was around how he'd say the same thing, that women were only "attracted" to me because they felt pity for me and were being nice. Since then, I've tried to be different and, magically, attraction is less. Same with in sales, my one co-worker said people only set apps with me because they liked me, as if it wasn't a valid reason, but perhaps it IS the reason. The only reason that matters.

My mom and grandparents are the same way. So is my cousin. They've always belittled me in the same way.

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11-11-2017, 01:48 AM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Interesting...But if this can reassures you, women D'ONT go out with someone out of pity.
I'm not expert but I'm sure experienced guys here will reiterate.
Women doing stuff with you just because you begged them enough only happen in the dream world.
So I highly doubt they are nice with you because of pity or for a similar reason.

And what's wrong with people acting nice just because they like you ? The world is as superficial than that, and it makes sense.

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11-11-2017, 08:41 AM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
(11-11-2017 01:48 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote:  Interesting...But if this can reassures you, women D'ONT go out with someone out of pity.
I'm not expert but I'm sure experienced guys here will reiterate.

Yeah that's what Shannon said once, but he seemed to join chaos when chaos brought it up.

(11-11-2017 01:48 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote:  Women doing stuff with you just because you begged them enough only happen in the dream world.

I've never begged for anything. Let's make that clear.

(11-11-2017 01:48 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote:  So I highly doubt they are nice with you because of pity or for a similar reason.

And what's wrong with people acting nice just because they like you ? The world is as superficial than that, and it makes sense.

Yeah I agree.

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11-11-2017, 05:14 PM
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Today I went out approaching. Did one. It went pretty good. Got a very hesitant BF objection from her. That's fine, it's part of approaching.

Cool thing was, just before, as I was walking around in the mall, there was a girl and a guy sitting down. The girl looked at me and smiled. I felt like a million bucks and immediately improved my posture and swagger. I could see the guy looking at me out of the corner of my eye.

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11-12-2017, 05:50 AM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2017 09:22 AM by rayrocanaldo.)
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RE: SargeMaximus: Blooming to Alpha
Hi Sarge,

If you were working on the goal to be extremely attractive to beautiful women and the girl gave you the smile, you would have felt extremely attractive and that would have reinforced the belief and brought you closer to living a reality where you are extremely attractive to beautiful women. Read on why.

I have a simple advice for you. Here's what cory skyy did. When he was younger he wanted to be great with women. He wrote on a piece of paper what he wanted to become. Sexy, hot, attractive & irresistible. Then he took action. By taking action, he reinforced his goal in his mind. So my advice to you is to, write down the goal. In your case you want to either be extremely attractive to beautiful women or amazing with beautiful women. Then write down on a piece paper the 2-4 qualities you want such irresistible, sexual, etc...and do affOrmation. Write down and/say for 5 to 15 minutes daily why am I extremely attractive to women ? Find some answers. Also do mirror affirmations ( say the goal ) or a story in front of the mirror and say how things go down because you are extremely attractive. Then take massive action such as working out, taking care of yourself, talking with women in general, etc...do anything that will bring you closer to your goal. Also, and this is extremely important, by taking action you are reinforcing the goal in your mind which when it is reinforced enough, the new belief that you are extremely attractive will become part of your reality. Women will tell you you are, you'll attract them, they will like you, etc...
You also need a better life to be attractive to most beautiful women. Get a very attractive social life, handle you finances, get an amazing body and most women will drop everything, including their husband, to be with you ! You'll be so attractive you'll have no competition because most men don't have the mindset you have.

Subliminals are not always enough. I used aura of sexiness and still didnt have women in my life because other parts of me were unattractive. You have to handle that yourself. You are growing older and you cant wait forever for Shannon to create all the subs you need because based how long it's taking him to create subs most of us are not even going to use, he's going to take a long time before he creates the " magic pill ". You have power so exude it strongly !

Here's how to write doen the goal :
DATING GOALS & DREAM
1) I am extremely attractive to beautiful women

Here are some benefits of doing the goals and techniques :
- You will believe you are a success
- You will develop a success consciousness which will attract success to you
- You will feel attractive
-You will be present
- You will be goal oriented
- You feel powerful

Enjoy this technique. Let us know how much you've changed.
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Oops I sent the messsage twice. Forget this message !
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