BIABW is awesome.

[SargeMaximus]

Plus I started to use phero, it's amazing. It's not a magic bullet but wow. I can't believe what some girls have done. Some beautiful girls with their boyfriend stop near me for no apparent reason and then one girl started to move very close to me. She completely ignored me with her eyes but at the end she even touch me. I was in the street and in normal circumstance I don't think a girl would do that with her boyfriend. I don't think she was aware she was doing that. Another girl did the same thing, she stop near me to watch the fireworks but she ran away shortly after, I guess she had a boyfriend waiting for her somewhere else. It's amazing the number of taken girls that showed me that kind of attention, it's like the are subconsciously program to cheat on their husband/boyfriend, they like the thrill of it I guess but can't admit it.

I've gotten this too from SM 3.

It's interesting the test you did with hypnosis. Are you going to continue? In my mind, it would be much better to program yourself to take calm/confident action rather than simply to get attraction cues. After all, as you saw, girls are subtle and won't approach. They may throw themselves in your path, but they still expect you to be the one initiating.

[rubman]

Day 20:

I'm really beginning to see that I'm irresistibly attractive to beautiful woman. It's strange sometimes it's like some girls can't stop looking at me. And sometimes it's like I'm making it up, like they aren't looking at me but in my mind they are. I don't think I would be able to handle all the attention without AM5/6. I guess I wouldn't be able to see all the attention girls give me if I didn't do AM5/6 or read material related to how a girl say she is attracted to you.

Plus I started to use phero, it's amazing. It's not a magic bullet but wow. I can't believe what some girls have done. Some beautiful girls with their boyfriend stop near me for no apparent reason and then one girl started to move very close to me. She completely ignored me with her eyes but at the end she even touch me. I was in the street and in normal circumstance I don't think a girl would do that with her boyfriend. I don't think she was aware she was doing that. Another girl did the same thing, she stop near me to watch the fireworks but she ran away shortly after, I guess she had a boyfriend waiting for her somewhere else. It's amazing the number of taken girls that showed me that kind of attention, it's like the are subconsciously program to cheat on their husband/boyfriend, they like the thrill of it I guess but can't admit it.

Now its up to you to mess up with a relationship, after all its not our blame but hers. I think when a girl really loves his boy is not going to react to an "almost" real alpha (you are in a w.i.p., right?).

It happened to me some days ago a married woman was telling me how handsome I look in the face of his husband(friend of mine).

Sometimes you dont know if Its a normal reaction from the neocortex of girls, you know all that theory of species and how they cannot ressist the natural vibe of a real alpha. Now I don't worry, I just go with the flow but try not to mess up a relationship because I know that I am using something to my advantage and Im not under normal circumstances.

Probably after long-term of no use the effects usually dissolve, so just enjoy and try to get a good catch while you can.

Cheers.

[JackOfHearts]

Plus I started to use phero, it's amazing. It's not a magic bullet but wow. I can't believe what some girls have done. Some beautiful girls with their boyfriend stop near me for no apparent reason and then one girl started to move very close to me. She completely ignored me with her eyes but at the end she even touch me. I was in the street and in normal circumstance I don't think a girl would do that with her boyfriend. I don't think she was aware she was doing that. Another girl did the same thing, she stop near me to watch the fireworks but she ran away shortly after, I guess she had a boyfriend waiting for her somewhere else. It's amazing the number of taken girls that showed me that kind of attention, it's like the are subconsciously program to cheat on their husband/boyfriend, they like the thrill of it I guess but can't admit it.

I've gotten this too from SM 3.

It's interesting the test you did with hypnosis. Are you going to continue? In my mind, it would be much better to program yourself to take calm/confident action rather than simply to get attraction cues. After all, as you saw, girls are subtle and won't approach. They may throw themselves in your path, but they still expect you to be the one initiating.

Yeah I know, I did that a little but I don't want to get sidetracked (calm/confident thing). I want the focus to be on one spot.
I write a little but a lot is happening behind the scenes. Also I try to report the result that I'm almost sure is ~factual. So I cut a lot of crap, I don't like false advertising and false promise who look cool on the paper. I guess I remove things that were real because I'm not sure about them.

I don't know if I'm going to continue, I had some great result with the hypnosis stuff. I can't really compare so I don't know if hypnosis listening is powerful enough.
The two thing seems to get different result, almost like different product, I guess it was I sidetracked a little too, I cleared some past stuff. I worked on dream, I try to program a porn mini film on my dream. In short I have done a lot of crazy thing. Which make my one month testing not that reliable.

[adam225]

Women really don't give a sh1t if they're in a relationship or not. It's one of the reasons I will never get married. If she want's to cheat she'll find an excuse to do so (& most likely blame it on her BF/husband). They try to make out they're the "loyal" one's and it's men that cheat, but really it's complete BS.

[JackOfHearts]

Day 20:

I'm really beginning to see that I'm irresistibly attractive to beautiful woman. It's strange sometimes it's like some girls can't stop looking at me. And sometimes it's like I'm making it up, like they aren't looking at me but in my mind they are. I don't think I would be able to handle all the attention without AM5/6. I guess I wouldn't be able to see all the attention girls give me if I didn't do AM5/6 or read material related to how a girl say she is attracted to you.

Plus I started to use phero, it's amazing. It's not a magic bullet but wow. I can't believe what some girls have done. Some beautiful girls with their boyfriend stop near me for no apparent reason and then one girl started to move very close to me. She completely ignored me with her eyes but at the end she even touch me. I was in the street and in normal circumstance I don't think a girl would do that with her boyfriend. I don't think she was aware she was doing that. Another girl did the same thing, she stop near me to watch the fireworks but she ran away shortly after, I guess she had a boyfriend waiting for her somewhere else. It's amazing the number of taken girls that showed me that kind of attention, it's like the are subconsciously program to cheat on their husband/boyfriend, they like the thrill of it I guess but can't admit it.

Now its up to you to mess up with a relationship, after all its not our blame but hers. I think when a girl really loves his boy is not going to react to an "almost" real alpha (you are in a w.i.p., right?).

It happened to me some days ago a married woman was telling me how handsome I look in the face of his husband(friend of mine).

Sometimes you dont know if Its a normal reaction from the neocortex of girls, you know all that theory of species and how they cannot ressist the natural vibe of a real alpha. Now I don't worry, I just go with the flow but try not to mess up a relationship because I know that I am using something to my advantage and Im not under normal circumstances.

Probably after long-term of no use the effects usually dissolve, so just enjoy and try to get a good catch while you can.

Cheers.

I'm almost over with the w.i.p, I'm feeling like almost there , it's a wonderful feeling.

I'm not feeling like messing with a relationship, I don't think I have the balls to do it even If I would. At least before I do another 6 stage sub like WM2/AM6/SM3. Or I try the instant jerk from Androtics.

I think it's my responsibility not to mess with people relationship. I'm the one responsible for being hot, irresistibly attractive, handsome, etc. It's my fault if girls can't control themselves when I'm near them. I'm the one to blame . I should blame myself more for that because it's feels so :angel: .

It's all in one word "irresistible" and it imply they can't prevent themselves

They should put in me jail for that kind of power and it would be well-founded.

[JackOfHearts]

Women really don't give a sh1t if they're in a relationship or not. It's one of the reasons I will never get married. If she want's to cheat she'll find an excuse to do so (& most likely blame it on her BF/husband). They try to make out they're the "loyal" one's and it's men that cheat, but really it's complete BS.

I'm not going to behave like a girl. Girl are not steady, firm, they can't be trusted. Woman wasn't meant to be trusted.
They the ones who cheat more and they don't know about it. They are lying unconsciously most of the time.

I'm even starting to wonder if my father is really my biological father the more I learn about woman behavior.

Maybe an open marriage is advisable if such a thing exist , it would be more safe in the long term.

[Mystic Pymp]

I'm not going to behave like a girl. Girl are not steady, firm, they can't be trusted. Woman wasn't meant to be trusted.
They the ones who cheat more and they don't know about it. They are lying unconsciously most of the time.

I'm even starting to wonder if my father is really my biological father the more I learn about woman behavior.

That's a negative thought if I've ever saw one. Not that I know your mom and I know what she'd do, do saying for myself I'd never entertain such a thought. It's one thing I learnt some genetics I know all my easily noticeable features are from my parents and grandparents (I have hair identical to my grandmother's from my father's side, until I will start balding at least). It's another that I know them both and I know how they interact, how they treat and love each other and I know she'd never cheat on him. And so it doesn't matter how much b!tches I will meet, how much women will hurt me I will always know there are women actually worth your affection. It is only an issue of finding and trusting her, which might be hard indeed. But jey, I'm a guy with screwed up romantic believes, what can I know?

[AlphaMind]

Women really don't give a sh1t if they're in a relationship or not. It's one of the reasons I will never get married. If she want's to cheat she'll find an excuse to do so (& most likely blame it on her BF/husband). They try to make out they're the "loyal" one's and it's men that cheat, but really it's complete BS.

I'm not going to behave like a girl. Girl are not steady, firm, they can't be trusted. Woman wasn't meant to be trusted.
They the ones who cheat more and they don't know about it. They are lying unconsciously most of the time.

I'm even starting to wonder if my father is really my biological father the more I learn about woman behavior.

Maybe an open marriage is advisable if such a thing exist , it would be more safe in the long term.

Goddamn you're both right. Fuck 'em. Fuck their dramas. Fuck feminism.

This is the true-true! But hey! Thanks to women's BS we can figure out a pussy-men

[JackOfHearts]

I'm not going to behave like a girl. Girl are not steady, firm, they can't be trusted. Woman wasn't meant to be trusted.
They the ones who cheat more and they don't know about it. They are lying unconsciously most of the time.

I'm even starting to wonder if my father is really my biological father the more I learn about woman behavior.

That's a negative thought if I've ever saw one. Not that I know your mom and I know what she'd do, do saying for myself I'd never entertain such a thought. It's one thing I learnt some genetics I know all my easily noticeable features are from my parents and grandparents (I have hair identical to my grandmother's from my father's side, until I will start balding at least). It's another that I know them both and I know how they interact, how they treat and love each other and I know she'd never cheat on him. And so it doesn't matter how much b!tches I will meet, how much women will hurt me I will always know there are women actually worth your affection. It is only an issue of finding and trusting her, which might be hard indeed. But jey, I'm a guy with screwed up romantic believes, what can I know?

I know I was harsh on this post. I didn't intend to put down woman. Woman has other great qualities but trust is simply not one of them.

My mom is like a blackbox, no one really know what's inside (she is kind of special). It doesn't mean I don't respect her. It's just that I can't put faith/trust in someone who behave like that. I can't know what her next move will be, she is unpredictable but I still like/love her, I like to guess what she is going to do next. She is fun, she know how to handle my father and keep the balance where it's needed. She has very good social skill and it's almost impossible to manipulate her. But I would be crazy to trust her. It doesn't mean she not worth my affection.

If you read my post and feel hurt you have just let your feeling control you. If you would have being rational, you would have question everything. Nothing can really be trusted. There are man who behave more like woman so man also cannot be trusted. But as a general rule woman tend to be more unreliable. It's not their best qualities. It doesn't mean they are all like that, some woman behave more like man.

But to me you should question everything you think you know, at least once. You can't trust what you think is true. Every real scientist question everything if they want to move forward. Feeling are great to move faster , they help us on a daily basis but sometimes they are just completely wrong. A feeling doesn't equal to truth, that's way we can be manipulated.

Read that you might understand it better:
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/evolutionar...en-21.html

[Mystic Pymp]

I know I was harsh on this post. I didn't intend to put down woman. Woman has other great qualities but trust is simply not one of them.

My mom is like a blackbox, no one really know what's inside (she is kind of special). It doesn't mean I don't respect her. It's just that I can't put faith/trust in someone who behave like that. I can't know what her next move will be, she is unpredictable but I still like/love her, I like to guess what she is going to do next. She is fun, she know how to handle my father and keep the balance where it's needed. She has very good social skill and it's almost impossible to manipulate her. But I would be crazy to trust her. It doesn't mean she not worth my affection.

If you read my post and feel hurt you have just let your feeling control you. If you would have being rational, you would have question everything. Nothing can really be trusted. There are man who behave more like woman so man also cannot be trusted. But as a general rule woman tend to be more unreliable. It's not their best qualities. It doesn't mean they are all like that, some woman behave more like man.

But to me you should question everything you think you know, at least once. You can't trust what you think is true. Every real scientist question everything if they want to move forward. Feeling are great to move faster , they help us on a daily basis but sometimes they are just completely wrong. A feeling doesn't equal to truth, that's way we can be manipulated.

Read that you might understand it better:
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/evolutionar...en-21.html

I'm sure your mother is a saint Seriously though, I think I know what you mean about her.

I didn't feel hurt, I felt sad or even sorry for you (this sounds bad, does it?). I know your believes are well justified, but I think this sort of reasoning will bring you nowhere in the long run. Or I'll put it differently - you're talking about the majority (where your believes apply very well), and I'm talking about 1 in thousand exceptions that are there, but are rare and far in between.

I do question everything, especially now while doing AM6. I start to entertain ideas I'd disregard months back and I learn a lot. But it's one thing to investigate, question and conclude, it's another to generalize and be paranoid. I've wrote about girl being hateful towards men in my journal couple of days ago and let me tell you, in this conversation we are no better than she was. If we think women are manipulative and not to be trusted, and they think he are heartless assholes, how far will it lead us? If we were nations, it would be World War III.

[JackOfHearts]

Be warn this post is very harsh in the end, don't read it if you can't stand it.

In my mind it's not as dramatic as what you wrote. They can't be trusted and so what? It's not the end of the world. Learn to live with it and understand what it really means. But it's generalization, some woman can be trusted if you don't push her too far of course xD. I would gladly believe that it's possible but the fact say otherwise. We are human, when I'm very horny I go over the edge very easily, It's worse for woman I heard.

Married couples betray each other often in occidental country, it's not a big deal, they make a deal out of it so it become a big deal. In the first place you decide if it's a big deal or not. I'm sure you can find some country who doesn't care about this. To me marriage fail because people don't understand human nature. They think people behave like in the TV they watch all day. Then of course they are disappointed because they are living in another reality. The return on earth is hard.
It doesn't mean every marriage fail, it just mean woman can't be trusted that's all.

Be ready for the worst and hope for the best. Be ready to lose everything. Happiness come from inside anyway. Why the f** would you care if your married woman f* another dude, she is not dead at least. She just prove to you that she is human and she has strong attraction from the opposite sex (she is healthy and asking for more).

[SargeMaximus]

To me marriage fail because people don't understand human nature. They think people behave like in the TV they watch all day. Then of course they are disappointed because they are living in another reality. The return on earth is hard.
It doesn't mean every marriage fail, it just mean woman can't be trusted that's all.

I agree with you on all of this except that women can't be trusted. They can be trusted to be a woman. Time for everyone to realize that the biological urges human beings are born with DICTATE that we sleep with as many of the same species as we can. It's SCIENCE (which I find odd since we're supposedly getting more scientific these days, yet our idealism is getting retarded).

The best thing to do is find out why you need a woman to be faithful. This will undoubtedly lead you to realizing, deep down, you don't believe you can get another, or that she somehow "completes you".

Be ready for the worst and hope for the best. Be ready to lose everything. Happiness come from inside anyway. Why the f** would you care if your married woman f* another dude, she is not dead at least. She just prove to you that she is human and she has strong attraction from the opposite sex (she is healthy and asking for more).

Precisely. It's not personal, it's biological.

[Mystic Pymp]

Be warn this post is very harsh in the end, don't read it if you can't stand it.

In my mind it's not as dramatic as what you wrote. They can't be trusted and so what? It's not the end of the world. Learn to live with it and understand what it really means. But it's generalization, some woman can be trusted if you don't push her too far of course xD. I would gladly believe that it's possible but the fact say otherwise. We are human, when I'm very horny I go over the edge very easily, It's worse for woman I heard.

Married couples betray each other often in occidental country, it's not a big deal, they make a deal out of it so it become a big deal. In the first place you decide if it's a big deal or not. I'm sure you can find some country who doesn't care about this. To me marriage fail because people don't understand human nature. They think people behave like in the TV they watch all day. Then of course they are disappointed because they are living in another reality. The return on earth is hard.
It doesn't mean every marriage fail, it just mean woman can't be trusted that's all.

Be ready for the worst and hope for the best. Be ready to lose everything. Happiness come from inside anyway. Why the f** would you care if your married woman f* another dude, she is not dead at least. She just prove to you that she is human and she has strong attraction from the opposite sex (she is healthy and asking for more).

I actually like your last paragraph I like it very much. I guess I'd have it if it was first time someone said it, but since I've read about it in "Alpha Male 2.0" it actually makes sense. Still I believe I am right on my points and wishful thinking or truth I'd rather stay where I am than to believe that I cannot trust nor confide with woman.

I'm happy it's sounds much less hateful now, hateless even. I'm glad.

Sorry for off-topic, but I think I know where from I got belief that there are women to be trusted. And no, it's not my mother nor Disney fairy tales. If I'm right about it it changes my believes little in the end, but at least I'll be able to eliminate another "beta" behavior in me

Precisely. It's not personal, it's biological.

So you say you cannot overcome your biological needs? I mean sure, I get that, sex is only natural, but so is killing or maiming other in fight for dominance. Why don't you fulfill this biological need as well? We are more than machines of carbon and oxygen, we must not do as we are programmed. Cheating (I mean in closed marriages or similar arrangements) and blaming it on a nature is silly and outright offending. If (s)he's so horny why does one accept such arrangement against the nature? It's like sawing one's mouth not to eat cake.

In short - "biological" can be embraced (open marriage) or controlled (model closed marriage), we are not slave to it as it sounds from your post.

[SargeMaximus]

Precisely. It's not personal, it's biological.

So you say you cannot overcome your biological needs?

Let me stop you right there.

Overcoming your biological needs? lol. Like eating eh? Or how bout sleep? Or deification? Or breathing, or sweating, or digesting food, or dreaming, or drinking water, or reproducing or any number of other things.

They CAN be overcome. Should they? That's up to you.

I mean sure, I get that, sex is only natural, but so is killing or maiming other in fight for dominance. Why don't you fulfill this biological need as well?

I'd argue that is not a natural "need" (Especially if you're the alpha, you don't need to fight for dominance).

We are more than machines of carbon and oxygen, we must not do as we are programmed.

Who says we're programmed? Then again, even if we are, why must we NOT?

Cheating (I mean in closed marriages or similar arrangements) and blaming it on a nature is silly and outright offending. If (s)he's so horny why does one accept such arrangement against the nature? It's like sawing one's mouth not to eat cake.

Why do we believe in the disney fairy tales or of idealistic ideas of society? Don't be immature, people do things that don't make sense. Best to get used to it and accept it than try to morally rebel against it.

In short - "biological" can be embraced (open marriage) or controlled (model closed marriage), we are not slave to it as it sounds from your post.

I agree that we can go for open marriages, but just because someone is not as "controlled" as you say they should be, doesn't mean there will cease to be cheating and whatnot. In the end, we ARE just animals.

YES, we CAN overcome it, but not everyone knows this, and even the ones who do, can't control every little thing.

Can you control yourself 100% of the time for the moral right side of things? Or do you get angry sometimes? Maybe you lust after a married woman. Don't pretend to be a saint, and don't expect others to be. Accept your an animal, and aspire to greatness if you must, but never forget what you are.