Dubls Mans Up - AM6 i (1-5), ii (5-10)

[SargeMaximus]

Stage 5, day 21

First butt presentation? I'm in beast mode at the gym and this cute, thin Russian girl with a great backside starts using a machine behind me. We are checking each other out in the mirror. She goes to the other end of the room and I relocate to a different spot for deadlifts. Well doesn't she return and situate herself directly in front of me while she's doing squats? She even turned to look at me between sets. I didn't look away until she did. At first I was annoyed because I'm focused on form and she's in the way of my mirrors. Upon leaving the gym I couldn't help but smile several times at the thought of her blatant grab for attention.

Now to be fair I was right beside the weights she was using for her squats. So it's possible that I'm giving myself too much credit. But I think I'm pretty good at recognizing signs of interest—just a total p*ssy when it comes to acting on them. I made no effort to talk to her and the reason is three-fold:

a) I time my rest periods and didn't want to get sidetracked.
b) I'm on a schedule today.
c) Part of me still has a hard time believing that women I would have considered out of my league in the past are attracted to me.

Would love to hear what y'all think about Russian girl's actions.

I had this same experience when doing AM 6. Though the girl actually said to me "You get to watch my butt as I squat" or something like that.

I, too, was too focused on my form and got kind of annoyed. I think the best way to go about that in the future is put it out there by saying something like "You're distracting me from my form." or something like that. Women seem to like it if you can admit to being "shaken but not stirred" by them.

That's my input anyhow.

[Dubls]

I've been thinking about what to do next. I won't touch SM3 until at least one more run of AM6. I've come a long way, but the foundation isn't yet solid, and there's still room to grow. I know that a second run; along with shooting for 12 hours a day, will pay off. So what am I thinking about, you ask?

At risk of sounding like a broken record, I really want to gain control over when I ejaculate. I am in the best shape of my life and now that I am physically attractive, I want to know that I can perform. In a month I am undergoing gynecomastia and abdominoplasty surgeries. No sex for at least 3 weeks while I recover, and it'll be 4-6 months to fully heal and see the final results. In other words, I'll be off the market for a while and I figure that would be a great time to work on ejaculation control...but how?

**Warning: Tangent

There are different angles from which to attack PE. In my case, I believe that the issue is mostly, if not entirely psychological. I have had experiences that support this notion. Subs address the mind. Good place to start. But how to address it? OPE 5G would tackle the years of conditioning with porn i.e. hyper arousal and racing to ejaculation. It's the direct approach, but is it the right one?

The peaks of confidence I've experienced on AM6 were nothing short of life-changing. And high confidence would colour every aspect of my life. Would it help me last longer? Probably. Would it also help me care less about how long I last? Probably. And that would probably result in my lasting longer. So if it's confidence I'm after, ASC is the answer.

But what about guilt, fear, and shame? You see AM6 has revealed the extent to which having low confidence and GFS—especially shame—has polluted my happiness and diluted the quality of my life. Both of these result from being overweight for most of my life. I know that shame—concerning my body and my penis—is involved with my ejaculating early.

The truth is that my PE is comprised of all three of these things.

AM6 certainly addresses confidence and includes OGFS in every stage. How does it compare to the single stage programs? I don't know. It's probably wiser to run AM6 again, but results from OPE could really bolster my confidence and happiness. I feel like I'd benefit more from back to back runs of AM6 as opposed to staggered, and that's really what makes the decision difficult because I want this problem to go away while I become even more attractive inside and out.

I'm thinking out loud.

[Dubls]

Well I was hoping for my last post to spark a conversation, but right now I need an outlet for how I'm feeling. Lately I've been talking about how it feels like I'm regressing in Stage 5. Well tonight is the worst yet. I'm feeling lonely, resentful (of my past and of others), undeserving, undesirable, and hopeless. And it's hitting me like a ton of bricks. I haven't felt like this since I started the program—WTF. It's like all the progress has been erased and my mind booted back to the old operating system. It's worse because I've tasted personal empowerment and I can feel the sting of its absence.

This is bullshit. What is going on?

[Shannon]

Stage 5, day 26

Well I was hoping for my last post to spark a conversation, but right now I need an outlet for how I'm feeling. Lately I've been talking about how it feels like I'm regressing in Stage 5. Well tonight is the worst yet. I'm feeling lonely, resentful (of my past and of others), undeserving, undesirable, and hopeless. And it's hitting me like a ton of bricks. I haven't felt like this since I started the program—WTF. It's like all the progress has been erased and my mind booted back to the old operating system. It's worse because I've tasted personal empowerment and I can feel the sting of its absence.

This is *****. What is going on?

First, I will explain some of how the stages are designed so it makes more sense for you what is happening.

Each stage includes what "stepping stones" are being worked on at that particular time. By having each stage work on different stepping stones, you can move things forward faster and more efficiently in the end without overwhelming the person. That's why we don't just offer the Stage 7 Refresher. It would save me weeks at least to just offer that, but it would not work nearly as well.

Now in some stages the combination of stepping stones will be more or less compatible with what you've already achieved and become good at. In those stages where it mostly matches what you've achieved, you see what feels like great results. When you are presented with something you're not yet good at, or still afraid to deal with, you experience what seems like a hard time. You're not regressing, but you are focusing in a direction that generates less ease and more challenge.

So in Stage 5, you need to work on something. When this happens, the worst thing you can do is do less hours. When the challenging stuff comes up, you want to do MORE hours, so you can grow faster. But really the best way forward is to do the same number of hours for each stage and each day. If you only focus on what you're already good at, you won't grow, and you won't fully achieve the end goal.

So what you're experiencing, basically, is that something is most likely scaring you subconsciously and your subconscious' response is, "Forget this! I'm going back to what was comfortable before."

The solution for you would seem to be, 12 hours+ a day, every day, and KEEP GOING.

Growth on this scale isn't easy, and it takes time. That's why not everyone who starts AM can make it through.

[Dubls]

Thanks Shannon. I'm sure as hell going to finish this program. Feeling a little more centred.

[Dubls]

Stable again. Increased hours are helping. Hitting 12 or coming close. 13 today.

On day 24, I wrote at length about my thought process surrounding which sub to do next. I'm torn between a second consecutive run of AM6 and OPE 5G.

I've benefited from AM6 and accept that it'll take at least one more run to fully embrace the programming. Considering this is my first-ever sub as well as the scope of the material, my results thus far have been worthwhile. AM6 addresses so much—all of which is important to me. The question is not if I'll run it again, but how soon.

What led me here initially was the desire to become the man that Sex Magnet aims to produce. It's hard to feel sexy and masculine when your junk is (below) average and you can't last longer than a few minutes. Now that I'm fit and women are interested, I want more than ever to improve in these areas. There are tools and exercises for increasing size, and I want to believe that subs can help me defeat PE.

After this run of AM6, I am seriously considering running OPE 5G for 6-12 months and committing to penis enlargement. It should be painfully obvious how prevalent these things are in my mind, PE being #1.

There are two things preventing me from making this decision:

How likely is it that the progress I've made with AM6 will fade if I do a different sub for the same amount of time and possibly twice as long?

How much more would I benefit from a second, consecutive run of AM6 versus staggering runs with 6-12 months of OPE 5G in between?

[ImFreeman]

Hey, how about this. You do another round of AM6, and do daily active practice with a fleshlight for your self-control?

Check this out: https://www.thundersplace.org/mens-sexua...fleshlight

That thread has been a godsend for me. The cliffs is that PE can be phychological or physical, or both. With the amount of ERPHA that AM6 has you will be covered there in the phychological side.

You can train the physical side to receive more and more stimulation without busting a nut.

[Dubls]

Hey, how about this. You do another round of AM6, and do daily active practice with a fleshlight for your self-control?

Check this out: https://www.thundersplace.org/mens-sexua...fleshlight

That thread has been a godsend for me. The cliffs is that PE can be phychological or physical, or both. With the amount of ERPHA that AM6 has you will be covered there in the phychological side.

You can train the physical side to receive more and more stimulation without busting a nut.

Bookmarked. I appreciate that man. I've long been skeptical about the efficacy of training the physical side, and to be fair I haven't given it a consistent effort. Regardless, I think that OPE is still necessary to reverse the psychological hackjob I did from years of cumming quickly to porn.

I want to hear from more people about my post from Stage 5, Day 30.

[Dubls]

I've averaged 12 hours since the last few days of Stage 5. My head is back above water so to speak. I can't believe that it's almost been 6 months. I've come a long way, and I still have a ways to go. The highs I've experienced have shown me what's possible, and the lows have demonstrated that I need more time to build consistency.

Reality - A strong sense of self which permeates the world around you.

I want to have a strong reality. One that sucks people (especially women) in and empowers me to do extraordinary things. That means more confidence more of the time and less GFS (especially shame) all of the time.

Everything that AM6 does is geared towards constructing a powerful reality, and I've realized—for reasons that haven't all been shared in this journal—that I need that more than anything right now. Therefore I've decided that after this month I'll run AM6 again, and maybe even a third time—has anybody ran it 3 times in a row? I digress.

I feel like run #1 has been a primer, and considering the results, I can only imagine what run #2 will bring.

[Dubls]

It's an ongoing challenge to get 12 hours of daily exposure. For me that's 8 hours of US while I sleep and 4 waking hours with headphones on. Working part time helps, but having headphones on limits what I can do outside of work. The change I'm using these subs to elicit is important but the commitment to listening enforces homebody behaviour—and therein lies the irony. I used to stay home because of low self esteem and social anxiety. Now I stay home to listen to audio that aims to overcome those things.

[Dubls]

It's been a while since I posted, and I want to start by saying that I'm still here and I remain committed to change. I have had more 12 hour (exposure) days on stage 6 than on any other stage. That said, Stage 4 is still when I experienced the most profound and noticeable change. There were moments when confidence was through the roof, anything seemed possible, and my problems and hangups melted and withered. I hoped to experience that sense of empowerment more consistently, and for that to eventually become my norm. I didn't, however, expect for that to happen over the course of one run. I accept responsibility for the decline in results during Stage 5, because I was lax with exposure time. I've been mildly disappointed that Stage 6 hasn't born much fruit. I've noticed a growing indifference when in the presence of attractive women.

I'm sticking to the plan of running AM6 a second time, and a damn third if I have to. It's too important. I'm debating whether or not to do a comprehensive review of what my first run has yielded. I've basically done that through my posts, but having it organized in one definitive entry might prove useful. Either way, I am going to reserve judgement as to the efficacy of this product until I have ran it at least twice. I expect a second, consecutive run, especially with an effort from day one to get 12 hours of daily exposure, to be nothing short of magical.

I also have a theory that the first run has acted like Stage 1 in a sense, in that it's primed me for a second run and will enhance its effects. Agree or disagree?

Now that my first round of AM6 is coming to a close, I would love to hear your thoughts on this post or your observations on my experience leading up to now.

P.S. How much time should I put in between the end of round 1 and the beginning of round 2?

[DarthXedonias]

I would agree that the first run probably acted like stage one for you and probably raised your "selfs" (Self validation, self esteem, self worth, etc) to moderate levels. It should make your second run through very smooth and the results even more permanent. My experience with stage 6 was similar to yours, though I'm not surprised. The whole point of the stage, if I remember correctly, is to do a final touch up and make the results as permanent as possible. That's essentially how I felt as well. I felt like I did when I did the first couple of stages. Overall, I would say you made some pretty good progress based on your entries. I wish you luck on your 2nd and (possibly) 3rd run through. Going the same route myself except with the refresher as the program.

As far as time in between round 1 and 2, I think it should be from 3 days to a week off.

[ffaux]

Good judgement on doing another run. My experience with my second run is that I have sticking points that have prevented me from having mind blowing results. Those sticking points were hidden from me before but have come to the surface and been revealed to me on my second run. If I keep doing AM6 I know that those points will eventually be worked through and that the results will come. I am committed to doing AM6 until I see the promised results. I will probably change to another sub for the rest of this year after this run depending on where I'm at and then pick AM6 back up January next year.

I believe Shannon recommended taking a month off after AM6 before restarting or doing another sub. That's what I'm planning to do.

[Dubls]

I've decided to do a review so that I have a baseline to measure against in the future.

To each bullet point I have assigned a rating of 0 - no development to 4 - maximum development or n/a. I've also enlarged the points that I especially want to improve; of which I find many of the other points are directly or indirectly related to.

• An improved on circle of friends manifestation sequence, so that the friends you manifest are genuine, long term friends who will help you for the long haul, instead of stabbing you in the back. 2
  
• Self forgiveness. 1
  
• Forgiveness of others without allowing them to walk on you or mistreat you. n/a
  
• Letting go of the past. 1
  
• Maturity improvement. 2
  
• Wisdom enhancement. n/a
  
• Self healing, emotionally and mentally. 1
  
• Trauma and abuse healing. 2
  
• Supply your own love, affection and attention. 1
  
• Overcome any victim mentality you may have when you start the program. 1
  
• Refuse to justify actions that are not moving you forward, or accept that behavior from yourself. 1
  
• Kill excuses and refuse to accept them from yourself or anyone else. 2
  
• Seek the challenge. 3
  
• Overcoming guilt, shame and fear. 1
  
• Self validation. 1
  
• Optimize scripting for... [SM3 lead-in]. 1
  
• Improved scripting for overcoming procrastination. 1
  
• Approaching focus, for making it easier to approach others, especially attractive females. 1
  
• Approval seeking destruction. 2
  
• Self empowerment/self empowering. 1
  
• Have let go of any negative self image, attitudes, thoughts and beliefs about yourself. 1
  
• Have a powerful, positive sense of self respect, self esteem, self image and self worth. 1
  
• Have unshakable self confidence. 1
  
• Be unaffected by rejection. 3
  
• Treat women as people to enjoy the company of, without taking them too seriously, needing them, or being easily upset by them. 2
  
• Have released expectations towards women, which often lead to bad choices, actions, attitudes, thinking and responses. 2
  
• Be self sufficient and self reliant mentally, emotionally and otherwise. 1
  
• No longer be, or come across to others as “needy”. 1
  
• Take good care of yourself, your hygiene and your appearance, not just because you want to be attractive to beautiful women, but because it makes you feel good about yourself. 3
  
• Be able to effortlessly approach any woman you want – and the more attractive you find her, the easier it will be. 0
  
• Be selective about whom you spend your time with, and which women you give your time, interest and affections to. 3
  
• Exude an aura of confidence, commanding presence and authority, which gets you respect, attention and obedience. 2
  
• Exude an aura of sexiness that makes you much more attractive to the beautiful women you encounter. The more beautiful they are, the more attracted and interested they will be. 1
  
• Have a Zen attitude, which keeps you calm when other guys would lose control, thus demonstrating your self control and mastery of the situation. 2
  
• Display graceful, confident body language, which broadcasts your power and dominance to all, but especially females. 2
  
• Display the attitude, thinking, actions and speech patterns of an Alpha Male. 1
  
• No longer seek approval from others, nor be concerned with what they think of you or what you do or say. 1
  
• Be your own man, who does what he wants, when he wants, how he wants, where he wants. 2
  
• Be in control when dealing with women, and especially beautiful women or women you are interested in. 2
  
• Be entirely unconcerned about “getting the girl” or achieving sexual interaction, which will make the ladies perceive you as higher status, higher value, and more worthy of both. 2
  
• Be easily able and willing to walk away from people and situations you don’t like, and TELL HER NO — whether it’s to her asking for sex or anything else. 2
  
• Be in complete control of yourself and your environment, and YOU will be the one who controls when, how, and with whom you have sex. 1
  
• Develop and display a fantastic sense of humor, which will make you socially popular and attractive to others, especially beautiful women. 2
  
• Be entirely comfortable in social situations of any type, whether they are familiar to you or not. 2
  
• Acceptance of, and feelings of deservedness of, being treated well 2
  
• Deserving respect from others 3
  
• Self love and liking yourself 1
  
• Valuing yourself 2
  
• Strong, centered masculinity and masculine presence 1
  
• Destruction of negativity within you concerning yourself and others, and replacement with positivity 1
  
• Self acceptance with continual striving to be better than you are 1
  
• Destruction of laziness 1
  
• Motivation boost 1
  
• Doing what needs to be done, because it needs to be done, and that is the way of the Alpha 2
  
• Extroversion enhancement and training 2
  
• Self forgiveness 1
  
• Social stability, skill and strength 1
  
• Overcome abandonment issues n/a
  
• Success training 1
  
• Gratitude 1
  
• Self trust 0
  
• Self image of man, instead of boy 1
  
• Leadership training and development 1
  
• Decisiveness training 1
  
• Authenticity and congruence training 1
  
• Destruction of jealousy and possessiveness, and replacement with self security, self reliance and self satisfaction 2
  
• Constant self growth and progress 2