<![CDATA[Subliminal Talk - Men's Product Discussion]]>

<![CDATA[Subliminal Talk - Men's Product Discussion]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/ Sun, 18 Oct 2026 00:19:33 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Has anyone had any success with OSC?]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Has-anyone-had-any-success-with-OSC Thu, 28 May 2026 20:43:39 +0000 London1]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Has-anyone-had-any-success-with-OSC And the program is free too.]]> And the program is free too.]]> <![CDATA[Deciding between UMS and PRA]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Deciding-between-UMS-and-PRA Sun, 10 May 2026 18:31:14 +0000 EvolvingPhoenix]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Deciding-between-UMS-and-PRA
I feel it's important because improving my financial situation is a necessary component of many other issues I have. Financial freedom and personal power are intertwined and both are therefor necessary aspects of my life to focus on. So I figure ums would be perfect for now.

Still, PRA sounds amazing. I'm leaning towards UMS tbh and maybe use pra later, when I have more money thanks to my business succeeding. It's an ambitious plan that's only possible due to certain fortunate circumstances that enable me to do it, but I really could use the help.

Do yall think I should go with UMS or do you think I should do PRA?]]>
I feel it's important because improving my financial situation is a necessary component of many other issues I have. Financial freedom and personal power are intertwined and both are therefor necessary aspects of my life to focus on. So I figure ums would be perfect for now.

Still, PRA sounds amazing. I'm leaning towards UMS tbh and maybe use pra later, when I have more money thanks to my business succeeding. It's an ambitious plan that's only possible due to certain fortunate circumstances that enable me to do it, but I really could use the help.

Do yall think I should go with UMS or do you think I should do PRA?]]> <![CDATA[AM7 Group Chat]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-AM7-Group-Chat Sat, 09 May 2026 06:11:07 +0000 Frosted]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-AM7-Group-Chat
This is a thread for discussion of AM7. Mainly for those running it (or looking to run it). But anyone can join in as long as they don’t detract from the “spirit” of this group journal. This is a place for all the AM7 users to chat in one place, and for them and others to discuss AM7 and AM7 adjacent things. AM7 does not always need to be the center of the topic of discussion (hence why I mentioned “spirit”). Think of this sort of like a “men’s locker-room”.

I made this because I feel like we don’t really have somewhere to collectively discuss AM7 stuff all in one place. When it’s people in someone’s journal, it usually defaults to a sort of dynamic of everyone talking in relation to that person’s journal rather than a more neutral ground for everyone to just say what’s on there mind. (Which is fine, because that’s what journals are. But I think neutral group spaces are important too).]]>
This is a thread for discussion of AM7. Mainly for those running it (or looking to run it). But anyone can join in as long as they don’t detract from the “spirit” of this group journal. This is a place for all the AM7 users to chat in one place, and for them and others to discuss AM7 and AM7 adjacent things. AM7 does not always need to be the center of the topic of discussion (hence why I mentioned “spirit”). Think of this sort of like a “men’s locker-room”.

I made this because I feel like we don’t really have somewhere to collectively discuss AM7 stuff all in one place. When it’s people in someone’s journal, it usually defaults to a sort of dynamic of everyone talking in relation to that person’s journal rather than a more neutral ground for everyone to just say what’s on there mind. (Which is fine, because that’s what journals are. But I think neutral group spaces are important too).]]> <![CDATA[Subconscious Aspects: Destroying Teeth]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Subconscious-Aspects-Destroying-Teeth Fri, 13 Feb 2026 12:52:16 +0000 Zeroxmachina]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Subconscious-Aspects-Destroying-Teeth Shannon is, what would you suggest in terms of dealing with this? I would rather not get off of DMSI, but I do have versions of both universal and optimal physical healing that would benefit me in a more holistic way.]]> Shannon is, what would you suggest in terms of dealing with this? I would rather not get off of DMSI, but I do have versions of both universal and optimal physical healing that would benefit me in a more holistic way.]]> <![CDATA[Resuming subscription neither charged Paypal nor resumed service]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Resuming-subscription-neither-charged-Paypal-nor-resumed-service Tue, 23 Dec 2025 13:49:32 +0000 Ampersnd]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Resuming-subscription-neither-charged-Paypal-nor-resumed-service I am also unable to click anything in the sales page in order to add it back to my cart or to purchase it the original way.
It says that it will bill me on January 25st, 2026 but I presume that it will also bill on Christmas Day, perhaps resuming service then?

Note: I left an email to support yesterday. Asking if this has happened to you]]> I am also unable to click anything in the sales page in order to add it back to my cart or to purchase it the original way.
It says that it will bill me on January 25st, 2026 but I presume that it will also bill on Christmas Day, perhaps resuming service then?

Note: I left an email to support yesterday. Asking if this has happened to you]]> <![CDATA[Deciding on which sub to go with next]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Deciding-on-which-sub-to-go-with-next Wed, 17 Dec 2025 16:01:37 +0000 EvolvingPhoenix]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Deciding-on-which-sub-to-go-with-next
I'm choosing between an AYP sub (AYPJRL or AYPORL), MLS (an older version) or MMv1. I don't have the money for a new sub and I want to use something else because while I'm grateful for the progress made with EHPRA (especially E7) I feel like I'm tired of only ever focusing on self healing and probably have reached that unconscious boredom phase of subliminal usage.

I've been wanting to use an MYP or an AYP sub for a long time now, but the versions I have are rather outdated and an updated version of AYPRL is (according to Shannon) planned for sometime in the nearer future.

So if I wait to get it, I'll still wanna use something else. I could use MM and get m finances in order, but I'm not sure how well MMv1 did or did not work when I used it because it was subtle. On the other hand, MLS could be useful for learning a simple instrument like harmonica and improving songwriting so I can make music, but I have a number of issues limiting the full usage I could get out of it lately. The AYP sub could get me what I want most lately, but It's such an old version I'll have to basically play my phone for 8 hours straight every night and it sounds like it'll take at least half a year on average to get the results if I properly set it and forget it, which is easier to do if I wait and use an up to date version that probably tales like 15 to 60 minutes for a single loop and doesn't require an 8 hour time commitment every on day. Although knowing current Gen subs it could be a multi stage set when it gets released but will probably be more powerful and effective, maybe even take less time. But I'll need to have the money and don't know if I will.

So pros and cons laid out, I think I'm lookin at:

AYP(J/O)RL - 8 hour time commitment per on day, 6-12 month time commitment, possible failure to properly execute and older tech being less powerful, but I get an ideal girlfriend if I do properly execute and I don't have to keep waiting just to pull the trigger, which I'm sick of.

MM - Pro: more money. I like money. Who doesn't, except maybe a communist or something. And they don't really hate money, they hate not having it or maybe other people having more of it. Cons: I dunno how much more money I'll be getting than I otherwise would, so I don't know how much or how little it will have been worth the time.

MLS: Pros - learn new skills I want to develop, such as songwriting, lyricism, Harmonica, cooking skills, metal growling, rapping, musical improvisation (be it singing, rapping or whatever) and maybe some other cool stuff I'm interested in. Cons - I can't access a lot of the heavy metal type beats I purchased that I wanted to write songs for and my house is so chaotic lately with lengthy renovations that have gone on for half a year and might be going on for another 6 or so months before everything is in order that I can barely find any of the stuff I usually use to make music with, so I'm probably better off waiting until things are in order first and Savin that for later. Pulling the trigger on an AYP sub is a lot easier than pulling the trigger on songwriting lately and frankly I can still make progress at being a siner/songwriter by just focusing on vocal exercises so my singing itself is better. Plenty of YT videos that are useful towards that end are free. Also, Harmonica should be an easy instrument anyway. Guilt, shame and fear are .y biggest creative setbacks and other subs are better for clearing those issues.

Writing that, I feel I should hold off on MLS, so it's between MMv1 and AYP(J/O)RL.
Improving my finances could be REALLY helpful towards a lot of things, but it looks like my job interview for a full time $16/hr job within walking distance of my house (I live with my folks, taking care of rent, utilities and food expenses) which (at full time) comes with PTO and full benefits went well and I'll probably get the job as soon as I get drug tested and the results come back clean. So how much difference will MM REALLY make? I honestly don't know.

You know what? I should probably pull the trigger on the AYP sub. Thanks @Shannon for the advice! The pro/con list was petty helpful!

Okay, so unless anyone else has ay advice that changes my perspective, I'ma go with AYP(J/O)RL. Now I just need to decide which of the two subs to go with. Probably J cuz I'm kind of a weeb. If so, I'll just post here when I've started and then stop posting until the results occur.]]>
I'm choosing between an AYP sub (AYPJRL or AYPORL), MLS (an older version) or MMv1. I don't have the money for a new sub and I want to use something else because while I'm grateful for the progress made with EHPRA (especially E7) I feel like I'm tired of only ever focusing on self healing and probably have reached that unconscious boredom phase of subliminal usage.

I've been wanting to use an MYP or an AYP sub for a long time now, but the versions I have are rather outdated and an updated version of AYPRL is (according to Shannon) planned for sometime in the nearer future.

So if I wait to get it, I'll still wanna use something else. I could use MM and get m finances in order, but I'm not sure how well MMv1 did or did not work when I used it because it was subtle. On the other hand, MLS could be useful for learning a simple instrument like harmonica and improving songwriting so I can make music, but I have a number of issues limiting the full usage I could get out of it lately. The AYP sub could get me what I want most lately, but It's such an old version I'll have to basically play my phone for 8 hours straight every night and it sounds like it'll take at least half a year on average to get the results if I properly set it and forget it, which is easier to do if I wait and use an up to date version that probably tales like 15 to 60 minutes for a single loop and doesn't require an 8 hour time commitment every on day. Although knowing current Gen subs it could be a multi stage set when it gets released but will probably be more powerful and effective, maybe even take less time. But I'll need to have the money and don't know if I will.

So pros and cons laid out, I think I'm lookin at:

AYP(J/O)RL - 8 hour time commitment per on day, 6-12 month time commitment, possible failure to properly execute and older tech being less powerful, but I get an ideal girlfriend if I do properly execute and I don't have to keep waiting just to pull the trigger, which I'm sick of.

MM - Pro: more money. I like money. Who doesn't, except maybe a communist or something. And they don't really hate money, they hate not having it or maybe other people having more of it. Cons: I dunno how much more money I'll be getting than I otherwise would, so I don't know how much or how little it will have been worth the time.

MLS: Pros - learn new skills I want to develop, such as songwriting, lyricism, Harmonica, cooking skills, metal growling, rapping, musical improvisation (be it singing, rapping or whatever) and maybe some other cool stuff I'm interested in. Cons - I can't access a lot of the heavy metal type beats I purchased that I wanted to write songs for and my house is so chaotic lately with lengthy renovations that have gone on for half a year and might be going on for another 6 or so months before everything is in order that I can barely find any of the stuff I usually use to make music with, so I'm probably better off waiting until things are in order first and Savin that for later. Pulling the trigger on an AYP sub is a lot easier than pulling the trigger on songwriting lately and frankly I can still make progress at being a siner/songwriter by just focusing on vocal exercises so my singing itself is better. Plenty of YT videos that are useful towards that end are free. Also, Harmonica should be an easy instrument anyway. Guilt, shame and fear are .y biggest creative setbacks and other subs are better for clearing those issues.

Writing that, I feel I should hold off on MLS, so it's between MMv1 and AYP(J/O)RL.
Improving my finances could be REALLY helpful towards a lot of things, but it looks like my job interview for a full time $16/hr job within walking distance of my house (I live with my folks, taking care of rent, utilities and food expenses) which (at full time) comes with PTO and full benefits went well and I'll probably get the job as soon as I get drug tested and the results come back clean. So how much difference will MM REALLY make? I honestly don't know.

You know what? I should probably pull the trigger on the AYP sub. Thanks @Shannon for the advice! The pro/con list was petty helpful!

Okay, so unless anyone else has ay advice that changes my perspective, I'ma go with AYP(J/O)RL. Now I just need to decide which of the two subs to go with. Probably J cuz I'm kind of a weeb. If so, I'll just post here when I've started and then stop posting until the results occur.]]> <![CDATA[DMSI v5 Success Poll]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-DMSI-v5-Success-Poll Tue, 18 Nov 2025 04:13:38 +0000 StridingStrider]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-DMSI-v5-Success-Poll <![CDATA[Emotional healing before Alpha male]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Emotional-healing-before-Alpha-male Mon, 01 Sep 2025 06:28:09 +0000 User_000]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Emotional-healing-before-Alpha-male
Somehow a part of myself believes no matter how i try things never turn my way, the suppressed pain never goes away and here i am rotting like a corpse, no matter how much healing i try to do the main issue remains the same, i refuse to let go of the pain, as if i already accepted this fate, but since having this TID my mind just go off and i wonder how much i have wasted my life, did i truly felt alive back then many years ago, how it was to be oblivious of the things that now torment me even if i can't recognize them, since when i abandoned myself to just rot, it's like my whole identity is crumbling, so maybe i should try and do a cleanup for my own sake for once, what i want is to feel alive again.]]>
Somehow a part of myself believes no matter how i try things never turn my way, the suppressed pain never goes away and here i am rotting like a corpse, no matter how much healing i try to do the main issue remains the same, i refuse to let go of the pain, as if i already accepted this fate, but since having this TID my mind just go off and i wonder how much i have wasted my life, did i truly felt alive back then many years ago, how it was to be oblivious of the things that now torment me even if i can't recognize them, since when i abandoned myself to just rot, it's like my whole identity is crumbling, so maybe i should try and do a cleanup for my own sake for once, what i want is to feel alive again.]]> <![CDATA[DMSI Starting and Stopping while Streaming]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-DMSI-Starting-and-Stopping-while-Streaming Sun, 17 Aug 2025 02:15:46 +0000 Ampersnd]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-DMSI-Starting-and-Stopping-while-Streaming Thought I would point out that - while using the online streaming service - DMSI v5, with 35 minute loops on Trickling Stream, and while using my home Wi-Fi is having stuttering and stopping/starting.
I'm trying to sit down for 2h20m, but I'm sure that I've been here for about 3 hours in total, and we're halfway into the 4th loop.
Have other people experienced something similar with DMSI, or with streaming their subliminals in general?
I don't know if I've had a similar experience with UMS because I've almost always used Ultrasonic.]]> Thought I would point out that - while using the online streaming service - DMSI v5, with 35 minute loops on Trickling Stream, and while using my home Wi-Fi is having stuttering and stopping/starting.
I'm trying to sit down for 2h20m, but I'm sure that I've been here for about 3 hours in total, and we're halfway into the 4th loop.
Have other people experienced something similar with DMSI, or with streaming their subliminals in general?
I don't know if I've had a similar experience with UMS because I've almost always used Ultrasonic.]]> <![CDATA[POLL: DMSI v5.1?]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-POLL-DMSI-v5-1 Tue, 05 Aug 2025 15:33:22 +0000 4Kingdoms]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-POLL-DMSI-v5-1

If DMSI v5.1, which integrates the DRS is built…
Is it worth paying to have a shield integrated?

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid268996

(07-27-2025, 02:24 PM)Catman Wrote: If ever there was a sub that needed a solid DRSV2(3?), it's DMSI V5! That sub would no doubt create a lot of attention, not all positive, especially from "haters". I think anecdotally, as I haven't used a DRS for a long time, but it seems to have an effect even through me if that helps...and for one specific person which is very helpful to me.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269001

(07-27-2025, 06:49 PM)HMoody Wrote: I second Catman's suggestion that DRS should be included if possible in the new version of DMSI since I can see this program needing it.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269076

(08-04-2025, 07:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: 6G as a standard does not include any shields. That is by design, and it should stay that way, since you have access to DRS as a stand alone program, and you can run it with DMSI v5.0.

Additionally, this gives me an opportunity to potentially monetize v5.0 where it would not be monetized otherwise, and potentially recover some of the value I gave away for the last 10+ versions.

So I am going to release v5.0 without a shield, and if you think it is worth paying to have a shield integrated, I will build a separate version (v5.1) which integrates the DRS.

But that will be free to nobody under any circumstances if I do. This seems like a reasonable solution for everybody.

]]>

If DMSI v5.1, which integrates the DRS is built…
Is it worth paying to have a shield integrated?

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid268996

(07-27-2025, 02:24 PM)Catman Wrote: If ever there was a sub that needed a solid DRSV2(3?), it's DMSI V5! That sub would no doubt create a lot of attention, not all positive, especially from "haters". I think anecdotally, as I haven't used a DRS for a long time, but it seems to have an effect even through me if that helps...and for one specific person which is very helpful to me.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269001

(07-27-2025, 06:49 PM)HMoody Wrote: I second Catman's suggestion that DRS should be included if possible in the new version of DMSI since I can see this program needing it.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid269076

(08-04-2025, 07:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: 6G as a standard does not include any shields. That is by design, and it should stay that way, since you have access to DRS as a stand alone program, and you can run it with DMSI v5.0.

Additionally, this gives me an opportunity to potentially monetize v5.0 where it would not be monetized otherwise, and potentially recover some of the value I gave away for the last 10+ versions.

So I am going to release v5.0 without a shield, and if you think it is worth paying to have a shield integrated, I will build a separate version (v5.1) which integrates the DRS.

But that will be free to nobody under any circumstances if I do. This seems like a reasonable solution for everybody.

]]> <![CDATA[What is a shield?]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-What-is-a-shield Mon, 26 May 2025 09:07:29 +0000 arimont]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-What-is-a-shield Every now and then, i see the term "shiled", in the context of a product (for example the X4A-1600 6G).
What is a "shield", what does it serve?]]> Every now and then, i see the term "shiled", in the context of a product (for example the X4A-1600 6G).
What is a "shield", what does it serve?]]> <![CDATA[Overcoming Erectile Dysfunction v2 (For Men 50+) 5.11G]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Overcoming-Erectile-Dysfunction-v2-For-Men-50-5-11G Mon, 26 May 2025 07:21:51 +0000 arimont]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Overcoming-Erectile-Dysfunction-v2-For-Men-50-5-11G
I am 61, recently divorced and in the few times I tried to "be intimate" with a woman I had troubles "functioning", even when I used pills.
When I am alone, I have no issues. I am not as hard as i used to be, but for sure it is enough to "perform". So I dont think it is a physical problem, rather an emotional/hormonal one.
I am NOT intending to look for a new "love" (not for the moment, at least) but mostly for fun s*xual encounters.

I purchased the streaming Overcoming Erectile Dysfunction v2 (For Men 50+) 5.11G, it is the first subliminal that I ever listen to. I have a few questions regarding it.

1. Usually I listen to the silent track during work hours, through the computer speakers. every now and then there are background noises ( people talk, sometimes to me, sometimes there is music in one of the cubicles around me, etc). Does it interfere with the subliminal efficiency?
2. I am considering adding another program (maybe the X4A-1600 6G OR the Manifest Your Ideal Sexual Lover 5.11G). Can the OED 5.11g be used along with another program?
3. Shanon recommended to listen to OED one loop per day ( it is 60 minutes long). What effects will it have if I listen to it twice a day, once in the morning time and one around 12 ours later?

Thats it, so far. I am sure that I will have more questions in the future.

TIA]]>
I am 61, recently divorced and in the few times I tried to "be intimate" with a woman I had troubles "functioning", even when I used pills.
When I am alone, I have no issues. I am not as hard as i used to be, but for sure it is enough to "perform". So I dont think it is a physical problem, rather an emotional/hormonal one.
I am NOT intending to look for a new "love" (not for the moment, at least) but mostly for fun s*xual encounters.

I purchased the streaming Overcoming Erectile Dysfunction v2 (For Men 50+) 5.11G, it is the first subliminal that I ever listen to. I have a few questions regarding it.

1. Usually I listen to the silent track during work hours, through the computer speakers. every now and then there are background noises ( people talk, sometimes to me, sometimes there is music in one of the cubicles around me, etc). Does it interfere with the subliminal efficiency?
2. I am considering adding another program (maybe the X4A-1600 6G OR the Manifest Your Ideal Sexual Lover 5.11G). Can the OED 5.11g be used along with another program?
3. Shanon recommended to listen to OED one loop per day ( it is 60 minutes long). What effects will it have if I listen to it twice a day, once in the morning time and one around 12 ours later?

Thats it, so far. I am sure that I will have more questions in the future.

TIA]]> <![CDATA[5.11G - Listening more than reommended]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-5-11G-Listening-more-than-reommended Mon, 19 May 2025 09:28:44 +0000 xrm0909]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-5-11G-Listening-more-than-reommended
I mean, insted of one time pre day, i listen to it twice?]]>
I mean, insted of one time pre day, i listen to it twice?]]> <![CDATA[RE: Question about subliminals]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-RE-Question-about-subliminals Mon, 14 Apr 2025 03:03:50 +0000 Eddie Morra]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-RE-Question-about-subliminals Shannon I have a question on subliminals . What are Energy & Morphic fields, binaurals, frequencies | Is energetically charged?

Do they make them more powerful]]> Shannon I have a question on subliminals . What are Energy & Morphic fields, binaurals, frequencies | Is energetically charged?

Do they make them more powerful]]> <![CDATA[Subliminals Are Perfectly Balanced]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Subliminals-Are-Perfectly-Balanced Fri, 21 Feb 2025 22:32:04 +0000 Frosted]]> https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Subliminals-Are-Perfectly-Balanced
“External scaling” would be something like “Ultimate Monetary Success” which scales the external stuff that feeds back into the internal. I also think Woman Magnet will be an amazing scaler, since being social affects every aspect of life (money, happiness, women, all relationships). Think about it, these two programs scale incredibly well by increasing your reassures and levels of happiness synergistically by internal and external factors, which, in theory should improve execution and your life in general. These two are incredible “life scalers”.

Things that increase your internal power and capability are incredible scalers too and should be looked at. Alpha male will be an incredible scaler, focusing on many important basics. Other factors are time and subliminal order. How to squeeze the most juice out of this within the constraints.

What are some ways you plan to “exploit” subliminals and your own mind to create crazy synergies (inside and outside)?

P.S if you know anything about systems and exponential scaling, then you would know that every run you do affects every future run you do. This is what we call a setup for exponential.]]>
“External scaling” would be something like “Ultimate Monetary Success” which scales the external stuff that feeds back into the internal. I also think Woman Magnet will be an amazing scaler, since being social affects every aspect of life (money, happiness, women, all relationships). Think about it, these two programs scale incredibly well by increasing your reassures and levels of happiness synergistically by internal and external factors, which, in theory should improve execution and your life in general. These two are incredible “life scalers”.

Things that increase your internal power and capability are incredible scalers too and should be looked at. Alpha male will be an incredible scaler, focusing on many important basics. Other factors are time and subliminal order. How to squeeze the most juice out of this within the constraints.

What are some ways you plan to “exploit” subliminals and your own mind to create crazy synergies (inside and outside)?

P.S if you know anything about systems and exponential scaling, then you would know that every run you do affects every future run you do. This is what we call a setup for exponential.]]>