09-22-2015, 11:15 AM
Which thread you went trough that states BWE is not supposed to be run with subs?
This one: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5539-page-2.html ? <- the jury is still out there and users reports positive experiences when using BWE with subs, maybe even enhance the effects.
I would not taken granted if someone said BWE + subs are not to be used together (during same day...however, do not use them literally simultaneously at the same time)
Shannon himself has said that BWE is NOT considered to be mind programming and thus is safe to use with subs. However, he also mentioned that GlaizenGold777 has reported negative results with it and one should pay attention to it. HOWEVER; if you read the whole thread you will find out that GlaizenGold777 never answered to my critical question ( http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5539-p...l#pid79635 ) about his experiments/findings but has been dancing around the subject since the beginning, thus the his report is questionable.
Unfortunately, Shannon himself had mentioned that he has no time personally to experiment running both subs + bwe so we can not know for sure, and he probably won´t be able to answer your question for 100% sure.
(btw, my aim is still not personally to challenge GlaizenGold777 or attack against him, I just find this topic way too important to be taken too lightly or jump into premature conclusions since some of us (me included) are dedicated to run Shannon´s subs for DECADE+ and want to also reap the amazing benefits of high quality BWE. So IF we restrict ourselves, based on questionable experiments, not to run them both but only subs instead we would waste years/decade of life when it comes to (not)running BWE. This is why I keep questioning about the yet unproven conclusion of GlaizenGold777, nothing against him personally)
I guess the only way to know (at least right now) is to test and see yourself.
This one: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5539-page-2.html ? <- the jury is still out there and users reports positive experiences when using BWE with subs, maybe even enhance the effects.
I would not taken granted if someone said BWE + subs are not to be used together (during same day...however, do not use them literally simultaneously at the same time)
Shannon himself has said that BWE is NOT considered to be mind programming and thus is safe to use with subs. However, he also mentioned that GlaizenGold777 has reported negative results with it and one should pay attention to it. HOWEVER; if you read the whole thread you will find out that GlaizenGold777 never answered to my critical question ( http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5539-p...l#pid79635 ) about his experiments/findings but has been dancing around the subject since the beginning, thus the his report is questionable.
Unfortunately, Shannon himself had mentioned that he has no time personally to experiment running both subs + bwe so we can not know for sure, and he probably won´t be able to answer your question for 100% sure.
(btw, my aim is still not personally to challenge GlaizenGold777 or attack against him, I just find this topic way too important to be taken too lightly or jump into premature conclusions since some of us (me included) are dedicated to run Shannon´s subs for DECADE+ and want to also reap the amazing benefits of high quality BWE. So IF we restrict ourselves, based on questionable experiments, not to run them both but only subs instead we would waste years/decade of life when it comes to (not)running BWE. This is why I keep questioning about the yet unproven conclusion of GlaizenGold777, nothing against him personally)
I guess the only way to know (at least right now) is to test and see yourself.
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