(08-14-2013, 05:29 PM)Edo Wrote: I didn't agree with that. The thing is we are programmed that breakfast is the most important meal in a day, but the truth is not. I just found out about this when I learn about intermittent fasting, mostly from the book called Eat STOP Eat by Brad Pilon. And I say that book is worth reading.
Edo
What studies show this is true and under what conditions? What does he (or you) offer as evidence to disprove the studies that show contrary?
The problem is the author is battling a lot of studies, and admittedly i don't have time to read his book so I'm hoping you can help me out with where he's coming from...here's a quote that has probably contributed a lot to the meal skipping (specifically breakfast) theories:
Quote:Skipping breakfast was associated with a significantly higher risk of obesity. Subjects who regularly skipped breakfast (i.e., 75 percent of days measured by 24-hour recall) had 4.5 times the risk of obesity as those who regularly consumed breakfast (95 percent CI: 1.57, 12.90).
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/158/1/85.full
I haven't looked into it enough to know how legit the study is, just using this as an example of why it's assumed by a lot of people and dieticians readily recommend not skipping meals (although if you read the article, right afterwards it shows that if you eat OUT for breakfast-think greasy american breakfast food, that is associated with higher risk...)
I'm not saying you or him are wrong, just am curious if you have some evidence I have not found or if there's more to his story. My personal opinion I have formed from both unprofessional and scholarly research you may find curious...my conclusion is that fasting when combined with natural caffeine sources and/or suppressants (most indigenous peoples used caffeine for fasting-and I don't mean synthetic I mean: Yerba Mate, Guayusa, tea leaves, cocoa, coffee beans, guarana...etc etc) offers incredible results. However when not combined with (natural in its original form) caffeine, or really any other substance that can naturally suppress appetite and keep blood sugar balanced...doing things like skipping breakfast is a disaster for which I have personally analyzed blood sugar, insulin, and seen mountains and mountains of evidence for.
I keep emphasizing natural caffeine and/or appetite suppressants because in their original forms they have much more than just caffeine or "one substance" that contribute to the successful end result...such as l-theanine, theobromine, antioxidants, etc... It's not that it can't be done synthetically as it has (hydroxycut...ephedrine, etc) but that I find whether it works is a gamble, and I find their short term side effects and/or long term consequences unacceptable.
So funny enough I've used both.
No breakfast, often even no lunch and small dinner for "extreme" weight-loss (of interest to me as a bodybuilder). Except it's paired with natural caffeine as both a blood sugar stabilizer and appetite suppressant. Any attempts at substituting synthetic caffeine sources, or doing this without have resulted in failure and temporary ill health. I always closely monitor blood sugar levels, and with caffeine (I use Guayasa or Guarana, my body tolerates these the best with least side effects... for example green tea and yerba mate both give me bad side effects) my blood sugar levels are better than when I'm on a standard calorie restricted diet (anything greater than about 300 less in a day). So I dare say it is BETTER for "extreme/fast" weight loss (attempt at own risk...). Yes, even with or without exercise. My best results where I've conserved the most muscle, is where I only did light cardio or an hour several times a week. Lifting weights or doing sprints was dangerous and/or easily caused "crashes" because when the body is burning fat the conversion is too slow to supply anything with intensity for more than a few minutes and the body expects that the intensity had a payoff and it will have all the building blocks it needs to rebuild (did you use that intensity to catch that animal?)
Now eating breakfast, I've used for mostly slow and steady weight loss and maintaining weight. This is still the standard I recommend for most people wanting to lose weight. Usually it's as simple as cleaning out their kitchens, changing where they eat out and what they order, and switching all their foods with healthy alternatives and a year later they are their ideal weight. Breakfast being an important part of this to maintain blood sugar levels out of the danger zone (where the body slows metabolism and prioritizes incoming food to adding and conserving fat...of which there is mountains of evidence for)
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