11-22-2012, 03:46 AM
(11-21-2012, 12:35 PM)K-Train Wrote: Maggie, I've been using PSE off and on for about 2 years. PSE 2 and of course the TUWs. I can honestly tell you this...never not ONCE has any woman I've used PSE or TUW around become "mindless". Now I should also throw this out there...I have been told by others (both men and women) that I'm attractive which probably aids PSE/TUW in some way shape or form. The women PSE and TUW affected the most were women who were already somewhat attracted or interested in me already. Even after 2+ hours of exposure to PSE when I've become extremely horny I NEVER lost my free will nor did any female I was around. Did I have the urge to want to contact or hook up with females? Definitely. But the fact remained...if someone was not attractive or interesting enough to me I wasn't seeking them out. Period.
So to Sean's point, those programs can only do so much. They still require the user (in cases of stealth seduction) to provide the location, to provide the proper amount of attraction/interest, and to have enough "game" or what have you for there to be a possibility of something going down. And even then, because freewill is not being overriden in the "target", there is no guarantee anything will happen. You'll still be you. But I definitely am glad you chimed in because I do think it needed to be addressed.
PSE and TUW prototypes that have been released actually do more than meets the eye. However, because a woman's sex organs are internal, and she has been told all her life that she cannot express her sexuality without being a bad girl, she will typically hide her arousal, even in cases where she doesn't want to, if she is in public or even amongst people whom she does not wish to be judged by.
Women who are interested to begin with are adding that to the effects of PSE or TUW-P. Most prototypes of TUW were designed specifically to generate sexual arousal, and get the subject to act on it, but were aimed at too direct a response for public, or strangers.
Women will be very aware of their safety, and if she does not know you, feel comfortable with you, have sufficient privacy, and sufficient permission from herself, her friends, and everyone else she thinks she needs permission from (religion, work, parents, society, etc.) she won't generally engage in sex, or necessarily even let you know she is aroused, or even interested.
Most women I have encountered prefer sex within the confines of a committed relationship as well. So she may want to have sex, be ready, and able, but unwilling because that puzzle piece is missing. She may be waiting for the right circumstances to have sex - i.e., second, third, fourth date... or a date at all, in some cases.
The programs do not take away free will. But the prototypes released do an extraordinary amount for you if you provide privacy and sufficient exposure. Privacy and proper volume are just as important as proper exposure time and script match to subject.
You don't have to supply game the same way with them, as without them, especially with some of the latest prototypes (which are as yet unreleased). If you supply her sufficient privacy, sufficient exposure and match the script to her preferences subconsciously, the only thing you really need to do is not anti-game her. In other words, given those things, as long as you don't open your mouth and blow it (or do something really stupid), she's pretty likely to be willing to have sex with you eventually. (Depending on the program, it may take varying amounts of time.)
However, if a particular woman happens to have a strong preference for a particular man, type of man, or a particular physical, emotional or mental feature which is not you or that you do not have, she may become more willing based on sexual arousal, but is still not very likely to jump you without some sort of persuasion on your part. The programs always have a positive effect unless you push too hard and ASD her; but they won't do everything for you. (At least, not those that have been released so far.)
The key is to understand what is going on, and be able to work within the boundaries she needs to be ready, willing and able to engage in sex.
In 99% of cases, though... nothing is going to happen regardless without sufficient privacy.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!