11-05-2021, 11:14 AM
@Shannon Glad I could help. I did want to ask you as well do you know if subconscious boredom can be affected by clearing? I cause I did realize during UMS that I do get subconscious boredom quickly but I wonder if after this major shift any of that can change. Or is that aspect just part of someone's personality and it can't really be affected? Also I did realize something that was touched upon when you and Catman have discussed things (sorry for bringing you into this Catman but this does have to do with something regarding a conversation between you two). I believe at one time you said their was a type of skepticism which isn't "real" skepticism. I forgot what you called it.
I believe when it came to the 2nd week when i had to deal with the whole "belief" thing I realized I had a similar problem. It was like part of me only wanted to execute if it saw "evidence" that it works. I then realized at that time this was total nonsense finally. The only way to see if it works would be to execute and that entails fully committing to the instructions and fully "believing" them. So I ended up just saying "screw it" and just fully given into it. The worst that could happen is that I was wrong. Also this is part of actual science. If you want to know if something works or a theory is correct you actually have to run experiments. There is no way around that. Simply saying "I won't execute until there is evidence" while refusing to do the experiments, which require you to fully execute the sub and believe it, which in part will get you the evidence you need is totally dumb and seems to be a stalling tactic.
@Superman I would recommend it. To be honest after a while I was thinking to myself I really should have been running E5 this entire time instead of UMS2. Yes UMS2 still got me some inner changes and a few results but I feel like I would have gotten way more out of it if I had run E5 for a good few months then maybe return to another sub (though E5 didn't come out until after UMS2 if I remember correctly). I think at this level of tech as well its just easier to deal with a way more simple and straightforward stuff like E5 is trying to get you to do (healing, clearing, fear guilt and shame removal, etc) which then will pave the path for more advance stuff like UMS2 which if you did first you have to get rid of all the junk in the way at the same time that your trying to install new beliefs. I am contemplating as I said maybe running for a few months more even if DMSI comes out so I can just be done with all the junk that is in the way once and for all.
I believe when it came to the 2nd week when i had to deal with the whole "belief" thing I realized I had a similar problem. It was like part of me only wanted to execute if it saw "evidence" that it works. I then realized at that time this was total nonsense finally. The only way to see if it works would be to execute and that entails fully committing to the instructions and fully "believing" them. So I ended up just saying "screw it" and just fully given into it. The worst that could happen is that I was wrong. Also this is part of actual science. If you want to know if something works or a theory is correct you actually have to run experiments. There is no way around that. Simply saying "I won't execute until there is evidence" while refusing to do the experiments, which require you to fully execute the sub and believe it, which in part will get you the evidence you need is totally dumb and seems to be a stalling tactic.
@Superman I would recommend it. To be honest after a while I was thinking to myself I really should have been running E5 this entire time instead of UMS2. Yes UMS2 still got me some inner changes and a few results but I feel like I would have gotten way more out of it if I had run E5 for a good few months then maybe return to another sub (though E5 didn't come out until after UMS2 if I remember correctly). I think at this level of tech as well its just easier to deal with a way more simple and straightforward stuff like E5 is trying to get you to do (healing, clearing, fear guilt and shame removal, etc) which then will pave the path for more advance stuff like UMS2 which if you did first you have to get rid of all the junk in the way at the same time that your trying to install new beliefs. I am contemplating as I said maybe running for a few months more even if DMSI comes out so I can just be done with all the junk that is in the way once and for all.
"I have no use of disciples. Let everyone be their own true follower" - Nietzsche