*Jake's Overcoming Fear 5.75.1G Journal*

[Jake2015]

To clarify:

1. I specified to Jake that he should use 13/15 as his volume of choice.  This is a person-specific recommendation.  The other method for finding the volume still applies as my recommendation for everyone else.

thanks for recommending this to me @

2. In response to :

Hi Shannon, dont want to hijack jakes thread, but i thought you say 13/15 for ultrasonic is the volume to use, and headaches to the point you cant function like really really bad headaches for 3-4 days straight where you can literally do nothing but want to close your eyes and want the pain to pass is still acceptable?

because at full volume is above 13/15 and then when we use masked and hybrid we aernt meant to have it that loud.

I can handle the headaches if that is whats needed to get past resistance they just are very bad when it happens.

The cause of the headache is only going to be that the ultrasonic is too loud if you are playing the audio so loud that it is causing physical issues.  The headaches that result will almost always be accompanied by nausea because the sound is literally loud enough to affect your balance centers.  Otherwise it is almost certainly a subconscious effort at resistance.

If the headaches are caused by resistance, then you have to choose: can you make it through the pain, or do you prefer not to have it?  I don't recall ever telling anyone to use a subliminal at maximum volume.  

You're not supposed to use ultrasonic with headphones, but using any format from a phone speaker is fine at 13/15.  Most times, going above that will produce less good results, although that is not set in stone.

3. @Jake2015 Why couldn't you play the sub while you were talking to her all night?  Your pattern of choices and behaviors still sounds to me like self sabotage.

Thanks Shannon, so in my particular case headaches have no nausea just headaches.

The call occurred spontaneously completely unplanned and on my mobile. When you take a call i dont think you can play music via an app as it cuts that out as ive noticed in the past. I admit that with "Pulsar" music app I just assumed it to be the same as I was more focused on the call. Also it hadn't occurred to me as I prefer to then turn the phone to flight mode based on advice early from I think RTBoss who said that "do not disturb" is known to alter the volume of playback and sleep. I also didnt imagine the call to last anywhere near 5hours at all.

But its done and I managed to get through a loop thankfully.