09-08-2020, 11:50 AM
(09-08-2020, 10:13 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote:(09-03-2020, 10:56 AM)Shannon Wrote:(09-01-2020, 11:02 PM)kuroshabedi Wrote:(09-01-2020, 01:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:(09-01-2020, 08:49 AM)kuroshabedi Wrote: hey everyone,
im new here but im using subliminals since 4 years.
unfortunatly some subliminals (even those that i made bymyself) gave me opposite results.
im here because im interested in the subconscious mind and i want to find out the core reasons why i get sometimes opposite results or side effects that stay permanent. Is it fear based? is it because my subconscious mind wants me to protect and responds with the opposite?
i is it possible that those subliminals that gave me opposite results will give me the intended results after using the fear removal for 8 months?
by the way i changed my appearance with subliminals too.. for example i changed my eye shape nose shape beard thickness neck lenght et cetera
but again all im interested is why i got opposite results that stayed permanently and how to overcome this.
lets assume my subconscious mind "hates" changes and wants to protect me at any cost.. does that mean its fear and when there is no fear anymore positive changes can happen?
Hi there, and welcome!
You will get reversed results for one of two reasons.
1. You did not script the program properly, and it is being executed as your subconscious understands it. This happens when you don't understand the difference between how the conscious and conscious minds work.
2. It is scripted properly, and you are experiencing what we call "reversal resistance". This is a very strong type of resistance based on deep and extreme terror of achieving the goal, or some imagined outcome of achieving the goal.
If you use OF 5.75G for 8 months, and the programs were being reverse resisted, then it is entirely possible that they will work normally after you use OF 5.75G. But it is also possible that you just don't understand proper scripting methods, which are a closely guarded secret for those who know the right ways to do it.
I can't say how you will respond to OF 5.75G, or whether you will use it properly. Most people don't. But I can say that if you use and execute it for 8 months properly, you're going to see yourself and your life change a lot.
Hope that helps!
yes that helps thank you.
lets assume its scripted properly, does that mean opposite results or negative results are fearbased? so does that mean there is no other logical reason and i can assume that fear is the deep rooted problem?
If it is scripted and used properly, then a reverse response always comes from an overwhelming fear subconsciously. It seems to always ultimately trace back to some deep subconscious part of you fearing that if it achieves the program goal, it will literally die. In a majority of cases, this seems to make no sense at all. I have seen cases where it does make sense, such as a woman who was sexually and physically abused by multiple family members gaining weight in response to the weight loss program, because she was literally (and justifiably, in this case) afraid they would rape and beat her to death if she was at her ideal weight again. We have also seen a lot of cases where there is no reason that makes sense at all for fearing death if you achieve the program goals. Needless to say, the subconscious, and emotions, are not logical.
Fear is such a problem that I have spent since 2012 trying to find ways to defeat it, and only in Fear Removal Module 4.9 have I started to really succeed. OF 5.75G and LTUv6 contain that module so far.
Quote:and believe me or not but now whenever i listen to subliminals or doing hypnosis or binaural beats my subconscious mind attacks all of my negative and opposite results that i got in the past. the stronger the subliminal the stronger the negative side effect.
That is the result of an extreme subconscious fear of death from achieving the goal.
Quote:and now im here to find a way to solve everything that affects me.
i will listen to OF 5.75 even if my subcobscious trys to attack my negative results and side effects to stop me because if fear is the reason for all this i have to overcome it
with other words if there is no fear there is no reason anymore for my subconscious mind to react like this is that right?
Correct. To the best of my knowledge, anyway; and more than 26 years of experiments, research and observation has corroborated that belief.
Quote:to be honest i really feel special in a negative way.. like a labor rat that has a very special subconscious mind
That is a sneaky subconscious effort to make you want to resist change, because you won't want to give up "being special". We have seen people here who resisted because they "felt special" for being able to resist and in fact actively tried to resist, even consciously, for that reason.
I don't know if my latest technology is able to override even the strongest resistance from the most resistant personalities, yet, but that is my goal. I'm willing to bet that if you use it properly, and use it for the instructed amount of time, you'll see a lot of things change for the better.'
Just remember that "being special" because you're holding yourself back is just a false ego trip that gives you an excuse to avoid making yourself and your life better.
wow thats very interesting. i never saw it from that perspective. i didnt know how creative the subconscious mind can be and how much power it has like it can control everything. i didnt know that i (my subconscious mind) can be my worst enemy like my worst enemy hides there where i would never expect him.. inside me.
can we sum it up like this: every additional result other than the script is always fear based response?
i did listen to OF 5.75 now for 6 days and im now on the third day of pause.
its giving me the intended results like others wrote in the beginning of their journal but like i mentioned before my subconscious mind responds additionally with attacking my past results.
everything inside me wants to stop the program but i promised myself to continue no matter what because i already lost everything and i have no other option.
it feels like something is punishing me and it knows exactly what punishment will lead into me stopping to change my life.
i have thoughts like okay maybe fear is the reason but maybe this subliminal wont work in your case and its only a waste of time and your negative results and side effects will get only worse
but i will never stop the program no matter what. If the deep rooted problem is fear then i have to solve it
i am only sad because it feels like i am the only one that has to expierence this
No, my friend, I assure you- you are not the only one experiencing this. Some of us have such deeply rooted fears and/or traumas that almost nothing works for us. And once we find something that starts to work, often we give up because of resistance (I did that with E1 a few years ago.)
The whole ‘maybe this subliminal wont work in your case and its only a waste of time and your negative results and side effects will get only worse’ is your subconscious resistance talking, of course. Naturally, the part of you that’s been held hostage by fear knows exactly what ‘punishment’ to trigger to try and stop you from listening.
OF is by far your best bet to get rid of it once and for all because it is proving to be a match even for the most aggressive resistance. Please stick with it for the whole 8 months no matter what, I promise I will do the same with my program. I did 3 months of E3, and once I saw it was working, I invested in LTU6, I’m on a six month ride with that.
My experience is that people like us experience more ups and downs than most but so far the newest OF and LTU are making the downs very bearable. Be prepared to go through some ‘healing crisis’ and do not be disappointed if it takes a while before you see positive results.
Once you get rid of your fears, chances are other programs will also work for you.
Good luck, let us know how it goes.