03-18-2020, 03:06 AM
I just have to hold my hands up and say i don't experientially get you.
What you say is perfectly logical and intellectually acceptable but it's just out of my frame of reference. I'll offer my reasoning, however flawed for the sake of possible usefulness in FRM development.
Your 20 storey death scenario for example doesn't work for me. Sure i can reason why i would not jump, but that reasoning would be so intertwined into a host of emotions, one of which is fear. The emotions are what give weight to the reasoning otherwise reason is for me an insufficient motive force to make me do or not do things. The rational part of my brain isn't as powerful or fast and doesn't command my body in the same way.
Fear is a lizard brain response, sure. But what of it's part in the mammalian brain where guilt, shame, even anger to some degree are more sophisticated derivatives of fear. And if it were to be taken out of the equation; is fear not simply another side of the coin to positive emotions - love for example; does one exist without the other?
Finally my experiences of what I would describe as peak fearlessness were also times of boundlessness, where things had no definition and there were no distinctions and no particular reason to do much of anything; there was a kind of universal love. I simply decided at those points that i couldn't stay in those mental spaces, again because what would i do?, just let the world unfold?.
If it is true as i have said and felt before that fear is a lie (though these were in times when i experienced the lifting of fear in a specific context, not universally) then clearly these are all limiting beliefs which are entrenched. To spell them out i guess they would be.
1. Fear is a core motivator, like other emotions, why would I do things without it?
2. Fear is like all other emotions, if i don't need fear, why have any emotion at all?
3. Fear, like my other feelings, are a part of my identity - without fear i may as well just shut down my identity
4. being without fear would make the world lose definition and distinction which would leave me without direction.
Anyway I'm in for the long haul, so ready to keep trying new FRM iterations as and when they pop out.
What you say is perfectly logical and intellectually acceptable but it's just out of my frame of reference. I'll offer my reasoning, however flawed for the sake of possible usefulness in FRM development.
Your 20 storey death scenario for example doesn't work for me. Sure i can reason why i would not jump, but that reasoning would be so intertwined into a host of emotions, one of which is fear. The emotions are what give weight to the reasoning otherwise reason is for me an insufficient motive force to make me do or not do things. The rational part of my brain isn't as powerful or fast and doesn't command my body in the same way.
Fear is a lizard brain response, sure. But what of it's part in the mammalian brain where guilt, shame, even anger to some degree are more sophisticated derivatives of fear. And if it were to be taken out of the equation; is fear not simply another side of the coin to positive emotions - love for example; does one exist without the other?
Finally my experiences of what I would describe as peak fearlessness were also times of boundlessness, where things had no definition and there were no distinctions and no particular reason to do much of anything; there was a kind of universal love. I simply decided at those points that i couldn't stay in those mental spaces, again because what would i do?, just let the world unfold?.
If it is true as i have said and felt before that fear is a lie (though these were in times when i experienced the lifting of fear in a specific context, not universally) then clearly these are all limiting beliefs which are entrenched. To spell them out i guess they would be.
1. Fear is a core motivator, like other emotions, why would I do things without it?
2. Fear is like all other emotions, if i don't need fear, why have any emotion at all?
3. Fear, like my other feelings, are a part of my identity - without fear i may as well just shut down my identity
4. being without fear would make the world lose definition and distinction which would leave me without direction.
Anyway I'm in for the long haul, so ready to keep trying new FRM iterations as and when they pop out.
Your task is not to seek for Love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
