Don't worry, you aren't missing much. And finally, thank you for this post that I'm sure took a lot of guts to post. I remember at least one poll done like this long ago, the results are what you would expect them to be, sadly it was rationalised away. I was beginning to think I was the only person seeing this...and was tired of being jumped on every time I brought it up. So sick of vague, feel good, mental masturbation BS, but no ACTUAL results to speak of when you read into the euphemisms, and the talking around things, the vague implications and attempts to be mysterious or clever, that in the end go nowhere when followed up on...etc.
We're supposed to report actual experiences on the sub relating to design goal, to see whether it's working, or what needs to be changed. It's obvious it needs absolutely MASSIVE changes in order to have any CHANCE at reliable design goal performance. So it needs real talk to do so. Not to have an echo chamber of "I feel great/all the girls want me (yet I haven't hit design goal).". Means nothing. Nobody is running this to get "dreams" etc. it's theorised benefit is real life results with women that we didn't have access to beforehand hence NEEDING such a program to begin with...
Shannon created this sub to torture test 6G technology. He said he wanted to turn seduction on it's head, paraphrasing, by making women chase men for sex. THAT is the difficulty of the program. So, to me, it sure sounds like the sub was specifically designed for straight men. I don't get the PC narrative of "gender neutral", defeats the purpose of the program. It's obvious to most, how extremely easy women have it when it comes to sex already, the average girl has options way beyond the average guy's DREAMS for sex and relationships. Don't believe me? Ask a girl you're close to and that will be honest with you about that. You'll be amazed at the level of options they have, it's shocking the massive imbalance! If she isn't "average", and she's "attractive"? You'll be picking your jaw up off the floor after...The entire point...of the 6G torture test which this sub is about...was the difficulty of GUYS having that level of power and control in sex and relationships, by reversing the dynamic with the sub and making the girls become the aggressors. I don't have his post links about it to back this up, old forum members will know this, anyone newer...call me a liar if you wish, that's okay.
I've felt a lack of masculinity programming in it, "not knowing what to do" so to speak, others have reported that too. So this isn't just one person saying it. Recently, I've been experimenting with some methods to get more of that "foundation" support, and have had a boost in confidence in myself, almost no negative self talk now, much more self validated through that method. It seems possibly we aren't being "told" by the sub, what we have to be like in order to get the result it wants for us. That is no doubt due to the PC "gender neutral" focus, which seems to be contradictory to the entire reason DMSI was created in the first place, to test 6G in a torture test, by making women chase men for sex. Also, I don't "feel" any edge or bad boy-ness in it. I still seem to be the "nice/funny/charming guy" ie. zero sexual edge, it's bland/boring beyond a friend/platonic level, apparently to women. I've read Shannon say he plans to add even MORE "comfort" into the sub for the next release. I think that would be horrifying! It's bad enough with the weakness displayed as it is. Totally wrong direction to go. I don't need any more help being friend zoned and considered a romantic/sexual non-option, thanks.
The absolute insanely large gaps of time in between releases doesn't help motivation or positivity or faith in things here, either. It often feels like the program has been considered as too ambitious for reality, and has thus been backburnered, and quietly phased out over time, then moving people over to other programs being created. Especially as 6G comes closer to reality, like outliving it's usefulness. So I do at times feel I've been deceived or used, being a hard case, to help develop 6G through that, being sold on being a part of a special program designed for my issues with women, having potential to finally change my life and be the man I've always wished I could be through this program, to finally not feel like a failure with women and less of a man, my sole purpose for coming to IML years ago...and then subtly being left behind after 6G is created as the program is continuing to stall out and not live up to hype or potential or sales page benefits in any tangible measure, outlives it's purpose as a 6G test bed and is deemed too difficult to make work. Makes me feel I've been lied to, used, and all of my time wasted sometimes, to be honest.
I wanted to post as I haven't for a long time, as it's usually an exercise in frustration for simply trying to do my job as a tester and report. I can't help that I'm not getting the girls I want to chase me for sex. No point in me lying and claiming I am when I'm not, that will only get me fake validation from the internet, it will not help the program actually work in reality. Only the truth will offer that, even though to me that still seems highly unlikely the program is capable of achieving that someday. Anyway, I always end up saying "we'll see" when the next version comes, holding out hope it'll do something for me with girls around me. Who knows when this next one will come...but whenever it finally ends up coming...
"We'll see".
P.S. While I worry this post will cause me even more problems here...I feel I had to take the chance to be honest and reflect my experience as a tester as directed to. I feel the chance to be this honest is somewhat rare here without risking a derail or a fight etc., I truly hope I'm not jumped on and attacked as badly as normal. I'm honestly just doing my job as an honest tester, and trying to help the program succeed...if it can...which I admit I still have severe doubts about.
If I had no faith left here at all...I would have left. Please remember that before any vitriol.
Thank you all for your time.
We're supposed to report actual experiences on the sub relating to design goal, to see whether it's working, or what needs to be changed. It's obvious it needs absolutely MASSIVE changes in order to have any CHANCE at reliable design goal performance. So it needs real talk to do so. Not to have an echo chamber of "I feel great/all the girls want me (yet I haven't hit design goal).". Means nothing. Nobody is running this to get "dreams" etc. it's theorised benefit is real life results with women that we didn't have access to beforehand hence NEEDING such a program to begin with...
Shannon created this sub to torture test 6G technology. He said he wanted to turn seduction on it's head, paraphrasing, by making women chase men for sex. THAT is the difficulty of the program. So, to me, it sure sounds like the sub was specifically designed for straight men. I don't get the PC narrative of "gender neutral", defeats the purpose of the program. It's obvious to most, how extremely easy women have it when it comes to sex already, the average girl has options way beyond the average guy's DREAMS for sex and relationships. Don't believe me? Ask a girl you're close to and that will be honest with you about that. You'll be amazed at the level of options they have, it's shocking the massive imbalance! If she isn't "average", and she's "attractive"? You'll be picking your jaw up off the floor after...The entire point...of the 6G torture test which this sub is about...was the difficulty of GUYS having that level of power and control in sex and relationships, by reversing the dynamic with the sub and making the girls become the aggressors. I don't have his post links about it to back this up, old forum members will know this, anyone newer...call me a liar if you wish, that's okay.
I've felt a lack of masculinity programming in it, "not knowing what to do" so to speak, others have reported that too. So this isn't just one person saying it. Recently, I've been experimenting with some methods to get more of that "foundation" support, and have had a boost in confidence in myself, almost no negative self talk now, much more self validated through that method. It seems possibly we aren't being "told" by the sub, what we have to be like in order to get the result it wants for us. That is no doubt due to the PC "gender neutral" focus, which seems to be contradictory to the entire reason DMSI was created in the first place, to test 6G in a torture test, by making women chase men for sex. Also, I don't "feel" any edge or bad boy-ness in it. I still seem to be the "nice/funny/charming guy" ie. zero sexual edge, it's bland/boring beyond a friend/platonic level, apparently to women. I've read Shannon say he plans to add even MORE "comfort" into the sub for the next release. I think that would be horrifying! It's bad enough with the weakness displayed as it is. Totally wrong direction to go. I don't need any more help being friend zoned and considered a romantic/sexual non-option, thanks.
The absolute insanely large gaps of time in between releases doesn't help motivation or positivity or faith in things here, either. It often feels like the program has been considered as too ambitious for reality, and has thus been backburnered, and quietly phased out over time, then moving people over to other programs being created. Especially as 6G comes closer to reality, like outliving it's usefulness. So I do at times feel I've been deceived or used, being a hard case, to help develop 6G through that, being sold on being a part of a special program designed for my issues with women, having potential to finally change my life and be the man I've always wished I could be through this program, to finally not feel like a failure with women and less of a man, my sole purpose for coming to IML years ago...and then subtly being left behind after 6G is created as the program is continuing to stall out and not live up to hype or potential or sales page benefits in any tangible measure, outlives it's purpose as a 6G test bed and is deemed too difficult to make work. Makes me feel I've been lied to, used, and all of my time wasted sometimes, to be honest.
I wanted to post as I haven't for a long time, as it's usually an exercise in frustration for simply trying to do my job as a tester and report. I can't help that I'm not getting the girls I want to chase me for sex. No point in me lying and claiming I am when I'm not, that will only get me fake validation from the internet, it will not help the program actually work in reality. Only the truth will offer that, even though to me that still seems highly unlikely the program is capable of achieving that someday. Anyway, I always end up saying "we'll see" when the next version comes, holding out hope it'll do something for me with girls around me. Who knows when this next one will come...but whenever it finally ends up coming...
"We'll see".
P.S. While I worry this post will cause me even more problems here...I feel I had to take the chance to be honest and reflect my experience as a tester as directed to. I feel the chance to be this honest is somewhat rare here without risking a derail or a fight etc., I truly hope I'm not jumped on and attacked as badly as normal. I'm honestly just doing my job as an honest tester, and trying to help the program succeed...if it can...which I admit I still have severe doubts about.
If I had no faith left here at all...I would have left. Please remember that before any vitriol.
Thank you all for your time.
