12-07-2011, 09:45 PM
(12-07-2011, 02:28 PM)Patti Wrote:(12-06-2011, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote:(12-06-2011, 06:58 PM)Patti Wrote: Shannon, this is so interesting to me because I also believe that we have a predestined plan before we’re born and I think this is where my resistance to subs falls into play. If a plan is in place, how can we overcome the resistance to change that plan?
Resisting a subliminal based on a life plan only makes sense if the life plan is very important, as you would expect a plan designed to guide a whole life would be. It seems to me that only manifestation subliminals would potentially affect a life plan, and therefore only they would find limitations based upon such.
In your case, I believe your resistance comes from a deep sense of insecurity based on a sense of lack of control. From what I have seen of your posts, you seem to equate having control with having security, and you have equated "having things" and smoking with having control. It has nothing to do with a life plan - it all boils down to a very deep and fundamental fear in your case, I think.
I’m not sure I would say that I equate control to security, security to safety perhaps. The word control or lack of control or fear of losing control, has been said so much that I honestly don’t even know what it means anymore. Fear of losing control of what? Myself? Situations? Other people? My destiny or future? I feel that I really don’t have control of much nor am I a controlling person. I have self control which I would deem a good thing most times.
I’m not really sure what things you’re talking about that I’ve mentioned in my posts, I’ll have to go back and reread. But to me “things” mean something of a material nature and materialistic is something that I’m not. I mean I like nice things but don’t really place much value on them.
I had read that sometime in the future you may be creating a sub for the fear of abandonment which is where I’m starting to feel much of my issues are stemming from, so I would be very interested in using that one when made. In the mean time, I was doing some searching online for some answers and found a cite called internet-of-the-mind.com which is mostly about abandonment. I really found this author’s description very relatable to me and it’s already been somewhat helpful as I’ve had some ahhaaaa moments while reading through it. He wrote a couple of books and I’ve downloading the first and will get started with that tonight. On the website he touches on things like addiction (smoking) and how it’s related to fear a abandonment.
So I’m sure you’re exactly right with fear being the issue. But I just don’t think it’s mostly about and control issues or at least, the controlling issue is quite minimal and may stem more from feelings of abandonment. I used Ben’s post a few weeks ago (that I thought was a very enlightening post) about his fear of losing weight, exchanging what the loss of control would do or be like for me. I can up with nothing.
But I’m gonna start delving into this fear of abandonment and see what happens. I’m more than sure I have this going on but until I can figure out how to heal from it, I don’t think anything worth anything is going to change.
I think you're attributing too much conscious awareness to subconscious processes here. The conscious and subconscious do not think in the same way. What makes sense to the subconscious mind may not make sense at all logically.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!