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[TheRealJustin]

Sounds to me like you are rapidly becoming less alpha, and turning into a boring working stiff instead. Workaholic does not equal alpha at all.

In some ways it does feel like that I suppose. It's not all bad though as I hinted at the end. It's (so far) made me more independent than I was before, something I wasn't so good at being before. I'll keep you guys updated for sure don't worry. i still have high hopes.
Afterall how am I supposed to get women and more friends when I can barely even get my own life in order. That's what I feel it's doing right now, helping me get my own life's responsibilities back on track before putting anyone else on.
Stage 3 is probably just the blunt of it as you said. Later stages hopefully likely smoothen that mindset I have right now.

Thanks Justin & CatMan for your inputs.

Yea, after going through more journals last night I see the first 3 stages are supposed to mess you up pretty bad. Well maybe not supposed to, but I guess they do. I'm still on the fence between AM6 and LTU but I am leaning more towards AM6. Before I wouldn't consider either because of OGSF, but everyone on here that has done ogsf seems safe and out of prison so I'm opened to it. I just need to cut back on drinking which I have significantly, but that's my main worry. Being blacked out shit faced with no guilt shame or fear could make me do things I regret, but as long as I never get that drunk, there's nothing to worry about.

I found a few people that say AM6 didn't do anything, but for the people who it had an effect on I can't find one that says they aren't grateful for the program. I am only going through 'first time' journals so I can see results from people who are starting fresh and seeing what AM6 does to them.

When going through all the LTU journals and questions people had about it I saw a lot of people saying LTU is in AM6 but I don't see that in the sales page anywhere, do you know if that's true? Or is it said because AM6 focuses on a lot of what LTU does so it's not the LTU script in there, but basically does the same thing plus more?

I'm pretty sure people say that LTU is in AM6 because it pretty much is LTU on steroids. AM6 isn't 5 times more expensive for nothing. Plus AM6 opens the gates to both Sex Magnet and Woman Magnet.

And yeah, the first few stages are rough, but stage 3 feels a lot better for me and am sure I will have a smoother ride from now on =)

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for asking so many questions in your journal XyzN. I'm not really interested in AM6 for the women side of it. BIABWS did wonders for me in that area. Well, I do like that it helps with women, I just mean I'm not going to do it just for SM or WM because biabws works more than good enough for me in that area. I recommended before an extreme attraction sub and when I read LTU sales page I realize that I basically requested ltu but with aos, biabw, and biabws, and LTU plus those 3 is probably basically a weak version of AM6. I only wish I could see the AM6 script, or at least some of it like with ltu, it would make deciding to get it or not a million times easier than just having to take a guess if I would like the messages in it going into my brain or not. I have never returned a sub, but I have done some where I got horrible results, not that I didn't get the results, but I got them in horrible ways, and unintended results, but then I've done subs where the results were so great that I feel I underpaid for the sub, and that's why I never returned the others I didn't enjoy, plus I'm all about supporting small businesses. Especially ones I love as much as this one.

Sorry for rambling XyzN. Not trying to turn your journal into a mess.

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[Shin]

"Don't care of what other people think about me. Yeah, i got it too on the stage 3.

[XyzN]

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[eternity]

the kind of stuff you're mentioning like the inner turmoil and drive to do stuff + the perceivable insanity that comes along from not being able to do it.... I had the same battles in my head and I think it is that your inner self and independence is starting to coming out. These "resistance" moments were actually my defining points in that they were glimpses of what was to come.

I actually ended up quitting my job at the end of stage 1 of SM3 (3 and a half weeks after finishing my AM6 run), to pursue a passion and an experience I couldn't afford to miss. whereas before AM6, I would have been scared by financial insecurity of leaving and would have held onto the job knowing I'd be on the board of directors if i stayed 10 - 15 years........ but life's too short right?

your life responsibilities are frustrating you because an alpha is independent and fully self supporting, so you're being aligned to the alpha mindset

I know you said the feelings fell away as fast as they came, but they'll probably crop back up. When it comes to taking care of your physical appearance, just do it. like get that hair cut, and visit the mall (if it was to get clothes) if money permits. The confidence boost is pretty awesome And call up your old friends and just see how things are going. the circle of friends sequence is probably hinting at something here . I have no business giving you advice on your future (schooling and job) so I'll leave that to you and your journey with AM6

dude this is awesome to read man, i wish i knew you more before you started the subs so i could see how much you're growing, because i only have a few posts to go off of

[dissonance]

the kind of stuff you're mentioning like the inner turmoil and drive to do stuff + the perceivable insanity that comes along from not being able to do it.... I had the same battles in my head and I think it is that your inner self and independence is starting to coming out. These "resistance" moments were actually my defining points in that they were glimpses of what was to come.

I actually ended up quitting my job at the end of stage 1 of SM3 (3 and a half weeks after finishing my AM6 run), to pursue a passion and an experience I couldn't afford to miss. whereas before AM6, I would have been scared by financial insecurity of leaving and would have held onto the job knowing I'd be on the board of directors if i stayed 10 - 15 years........ but life's too short right?

your life responsibilities are frustrating you because an alpha is independent and fully self supporting, so you're being aligned to the alpha mindset

I know you said the feelings fell away as fast as they came, but they'll probably crop back up. When it comes to taking care of your physical appearance, just do it. like get that hair cut, and visit the mall (if it was to get clothes) if money permits. The confidence boost is pretty awesome And call up your old friends and just see how things are going. the circle of friends sequence is probably hinting at something here . I have no business giving you advice on your future (schooling and job) so I'll leave that to you and your journey with AM6

dude this is awesome to read man, i wish i knew you more before you started the subs so i could see how much you're growing, because i only have a few posts to go off of

Quit your job eh? Stay on this forum for the rest of your life, because I'm curious what amazing places your gonna take your life to from here on out!

[Dzemoo]

@TheRealJustin had the same thoughts as you, thats why i did the magnets more than am, i think wm would fit your definition of alpha better, and believe me ltu is worse on the workaholic component, i think am5 would be more of what you understan under alpha but its not sold anymore thats why i still have the old programs, i fighted with myself for a long time if i want to do alpha or not but decided to give it a run through knowing that it is more of an overall improvement program than a pure alpha sub

But shanon explained it good to me when i asked him about the status in am and wm, and that i feel that i dont have the same as i did with wm, he answered that am works on getting you achieve the status and wm give you the status by poeple, so its really dumb to have the status without having something to back it up, i am glad i have all the major programms so i can be different every 6 months

[TheRealJustin]

@TheRealJustin had the same thoughts as you, thats why i did the magnets more than am, i think wm would fit your definition of alpha better, and believe me ltu is worse on the workaholic component, i think am5 would be more of what you understan under alpha but its not sold anymore thats why i still have the old programs, i fighted with myself for a long time if i want to do alpha or not but decided to give it a run through knowing that it is more of an overall improvement program than a pure alpha sub

But shanon explained it good to me when i asked him about the status in am and wm, and that i feel that i dont have the same as i did with wm, he answered that am works on getting you achieve the status and wm give you the status by poeple, so its really dumb to have the status without having something to back it up, i am glad i have all the major programms so i can be different every 6 months

That makes sense, kind of like the old saying 'first you get the money, then you get the women.'

I'm running BASE 3g right now, probably will for a year or two or more. I want to try AM6 but first I want to be 100% independent making enough money to live happily on my own, and I want to lose my gut and my man tits, and then I will think about trying AM6. If I use it right now I feel like I would have a very bad time on it. Right now I'm making coffee with BASE and BIABWS, and once the coffee is done I'll add cream and sugar with AM6 and WM2.

[LiquidMind]

Currently on Stage 4 of AM6 re-run and I can definitely say I want to do my own thing right now and its driving me nuts.

I had a very poor day at work and just felt like jumping out of the window because I don't want to be in a job anymore going no where. I want to do my own thing.

This lead to an argument with my mum who, due to my past beta procrastinating self, would say I will do nothing. I aim to prove her wrong and I think this is a big influence by the AM subs. It makes you want to claw your eyes out when you aren't in control of your own life..

Peace

LM

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[maxx55]

Congrats man! It looks like you've really enjoyed and made progress on your AM6 run! Time to finish strong on stage 6, enjoy