Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[papagani24]

@Shannon

I guess until 6g comes out, we will experience the 'remastered' situation in the gaming industry. Of course, with the power of 5.11G, the power of the programs increases, but as a new user, I understand that we have to wait for 6g for more comprehensive programs such as LTU, apart from what is said. For the moment, the programs I am thinking of trying are Ultra Success 5.11g, I agree with the common opinion, many people cannot buy a new program anyway because they follow the instructions and use large (comprehensive, complex) programs. I think we all know the one that would make me and many others immediately leave the program and start a new one, the famous DMSI. But since comprehensive programs should be in 6g and many people are at least more interested in such programs, I wonder what a mix of Approach Anxiety and Natural Seduction For Men would be like? Of course, I don't know how complicated it would get or whether such a program would require a long time commitment. Or it would be interesting to see a productivity enhancing program like Laser Like Focus & Concentration in 5.11g.

On the other hand I have a different question, DMSI was the first program I bought at full price. I’ve asked about this before, and I don’t want to sound like a broken record (ironically i am) or someone chasing an unpaid bill—it’s not exactly my favorite thing to do either, but I would like to try the older versions. For example, versions like 3.3.1 or 3.3D make me very curious, and I read a post somewhere on the forum saying that the Fear Removal Module made a difference. I'm running X4A-1511 right now and it's going quite well, I'm actually quite happy with my current relationship status, but I'm starting to get different and surprising results (I'll report my experiences in a journal or here soon). I'm just very curious about the older versions of DMSI, if I have access to it I would like to experience them too.

[Shannon]

@Shannon



I guess until 6g comes out, we will experience the 'remastered' situation in the gaming industry. Of course, with the power of 5.11G, the power of the programs increases, but as a new user, I understand that we have to wait for 6g for more comprehensive programs such as LTU, apart from what is said. For the moment, the programs I am thinking of trying are Ultra Success 5.11g, I agree with the common opinion, many people cannot buy a new program anyway because they follow the instructions and use large (comprehensive, complex) programs. I think we all know the one that would make me and many others immediately leave the program and start a new one, the famous DMSI. But since comprehensive programs should be in 6g and many people are at least more interested in such programs, I wonder what a mix of Approach Anxiety and Natural Seduction For Men would be like? Of course, I don't know how complicated it would get or whether such a program would require a long time commitment. Or it would be interesting to see a productivity enhancing program like Laser Like Focus & Concentration in 5.11g.

That is an interesting idea indeed... I'll see how do-able that is.  Thank you.

On the other hand I have a different question, DMSI was the first program I bought at full price. I’ve asked about this before, and I don’t want to sound like a broken record (ironically i am) or someone chasing an unpaid bill—it’s not exactly my favorite thing to do either, but I would like to try the older versions. For example, versions like 3.3.1 or 3.3D make me very curious, and I read a post somewhere on the forum saying that the Fear Removal Module made a difference. I'm running X4A-1511 right now and it's going quite well, I'm actually quite happy with my current relationship status, but I'm starting to get different and surprising results (I'll report my experiences in a journal or here soon). I'm just very curious about the older versions of DMSI, if I have access to it I would like to experience them too.

Our policy is to retire old versions of these programs as they are superseded.  This prevents confusion and various other issues, including me having to remember impossible amounts of data on how they were built, how to offer customer support and how to use them properly.  DMSI is one of the most complex scripts I have ever created, and each version is a major change from each previous version.  So offering older versions is not something I am willing to do as a result.

At one point, everyone was waxing poetic about v1.0, and complaining because they remembered it being better than the current version (at the time).  Why wouldn't I bring it back?  I brought it back, and lo and behold within 2 weeks, all of those who ran it went silent... realizing that they remembered it with rose colored glasses, and it really was vastly inferior to the current (at the time) program version after all, just as I had told them it was.

I get it that you're curious after reading others' experiences, but I'm not going to bring back older versions.  It's not reasonable, or feasible. 

There will be a new version coming out in 2025, in 6G.

[dweller94]

Hi Shannon, did you see my post on motivation : https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid265995

[Frosted]

@Shannon

One of the main motivations of ADHD is interest. What if you made a program that caused the listener to mentally analyze their life and organize the things that need to be done to improve it, and prioritize them by order of importance of what will have the biggest impact that has a workable time and effort required, and then get the listener to intensely desire whatever’s at the top of the list, such that nothing will stop them from achieving it? Reminds me of the classic book “Think and Grow Rich”. If you single-mindedly and intensely desire something, you will will it into being. And if you desire what’s best for you? Well then that sounds like a recipe for success.

Not sure if it would be better to desire the outcome, the process or some combination of the two. Likely both.

I would absolutely instantly buy something like this.

Or perhaps the subliminal could somehow give us more conscious control over our desires. If I could get myself to want to do what I want to do, I would probably have no productivity issues.

Edit:
Maybe the program could even go a step further and include all types of desires holistically. Like curiosity, passion, interest, hope, enjoyment (don’t know if this counts as desire lol), etc. Just the process of achieving the goal is just enjoyable and desirable and it’s like you are effortlessly pulled towards it and the whole process is enjoyable and effortless, almost like things coming together on their own. The mental image of two things flowing together and blooming like a flower comes to mind.

[thectexperience1]

Hey Shannon,
Are you planning a Black Friday sale this year? That could move some dollars for that 1-3 month period that IML needs to get through.
My read on the mood is that most of us (at least the part of your client base who are on the forum) have taken on board the long-term ethos. Especially with the hype for AM 6G, E6 and OGSF have become more appealing. Frosted and Nomad have done a great job of articulating the benefits of these kinds of programs in their journals. I'm personally starting Month 6 of OF 5.9G. When you come from that mindset, it's not logical to switch to something like Laser Focus for a 1 or 2 month run.
I know it's not the best news, but on the bright side, you build a more happy and prosperous client base in the process.

[StridingStrider]

Does Primal Masculinity have FRM?

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon, did you see my post on motivation : https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid265995

Yes, I saw.  Thank you.  Running around like a chicken with it's head cut off lately. 

[Shannon]

@Shannon

One of the main motivations of ADHD is interest. What if you made a program that caused the listener to mentally analyze their life and organize the things that need to be done to improve it, and prioritize them by order of importance of what will have the biggest impact that has a workable time and effort required, and then get the listener to intensely desire whatever’s at the top of the list, such that nothing will stop them from achieving it? Reminds me of the classic  book “Think and Grow Rich”. If you single-mindedly and intensely desire something, you will will it into being. And if you desire what’s best for you? Well then that sounds like a recipe for success.

Not sure if it would be better to desire the outcome, the process or some combination of the two. Likely both.

I would absolutely instantly buy something like this.

Or perhaps the subliminal could somehow give us more conscious control over our desires. If I could get myself to want to do what I want to do, I would probably have no productivity issues.

Edit:
Maybe the program could even go a step further and include all types of desires holistically. Like curiosity, passion, interest, hope,  enjoyment (don’t know if this counts as desire lol), etc. Just the process of achieving the goal is just enjoyable and desirable and it’s like you are effortlessly pulled towards it and the whole process is enjoyable and effortless, almost like things coming together on their own. The mental image of two things flowing together and blooming like a flower comes to mind.

The ADD/ADHD aid has been in development for quite some time.  It's just that the program is going to be very complex and will take a while to do, and I might as well wait for 6G at this point.

So far my research points to ADD and ADHD being caused by at least two different things, and I've got a group of testers who is helping me test and put together the components for such a program. 

I'll make note of this and see if there's anything from your suggestion here that I can make use of when the time comes to build that program.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon,
Are you planning a Black Friday sale this year? That could move some dollars for that 1-3 month period that IML needs to get through.
My read on the mood is that most of us (at least the part of your client base who are on the forum) have taken on board the long-term ethos. Especially with the hype for AM 6G, E6 and OGSF have become more appealing. Frosted and Nomad have done a great job of articulating the benefits of these kinds of programs in their journals. I'm personally starting Month 6 of OF 5.9G. When you come from that mindset, it's not logical to switch to something like Laser Focus for a 1 or 2 month run.
I know it's not the best news, but on the bright side, you build a more happy and prosperous client base in the process.

Yes, we will be doing a Black Friday sale.

I don't mind having a happy and prosperous client base, that's my goal.  It;s just that because of circumstances out of my control, the transition point between 5.11G and 6G has gotten out of whack for what I need to make it go smoothly.  I know this will pass and we'll make it, but it's also important to do so with as little stress as possible, since as you can imagine, transitioning to 6G is rather stressful for me.  Not only is it a matter of spending time on development and testing instead of building, it's also a matter of the Osbourne effect, which has set in because things have gone awry for reasons outside of my control.

This is the culmination of 13 years of work, and though I'm almost out of the tunnel, the work load to accomplish this is not insignificant, and neither are the expectations I have on my shoulders. 

I'm currently working on finishing the Key Script for the 6G-Beta test title, and when that's finished I have to build it and start testing it, and immediately start building something else to sell. 

I have some good ideas and you guys have offered some good ideas.  We will figure it out.

[Shannon]

Does Primal Masculinity have FRM?

No.  Why do you ask?

[thectexperience1]

Hey Shannon,
Are you planning a Black Friday sale this year? That could move some dollars for that 1-3 month period that IML needs to get through.
My read on the mood is that most of us (at least the part of your client base who are on the forum) have taken on board the long-term ethos. Especially with the hype for AM 6G, E6 and OGSF have become more appealing. Frosted and Nomad have done a great job of articulating the benefits of these kinds of programs in their journals. I'm personally starting Month 6 of OF 5.9G. When you come from that mindset, it's not logical to switch to something like Laser Focus for a 1 or 2 month run.
I know it's not the best news, but on the bright side, you build a more happy and prosperous client base in the process.

Yes, we will be doing a Black Friday sale.

I don't mind having a happy and prosperous client base, that's my goal.  It;s just that because of circumstances out of my control, the transition point between 5.11G and 6G has gotten out of whack for what I need to make it go smoothly.  I know this will pass and we'll make it, but it's also important to do so with as little stress as possible, since as you can imagine, transitioning to 6G is rather stressful for me.  Not only is it a matter of spending time on development and testing instead of building, it's also a matter of the Osbourne effect, which has set in because things have gone awry for reasons outside of my control.

This is the culmination of 13 years of work, and though I'm almost out of the tunnel, the work load to accomplish this is not insignificant, and neither are the expectations I have on my shoulders. 

I'm currently working on finishing the Key Script for the 6G-Beta test title, and when that's finished I have to build it and start testing it, and immediately start building something else to sell. 

I have some good ideas and you guys have offered some good ideas.  We will figure it out.

Brilliant, mate. Love your work. Well, as you know, we're all super excited. For my part I'll have a think about what to do after OF and you'll be getting a little bit of coin from me that way.

[StridingStrider]

Does Primal Masculinity have FRM?

No.  Why do you ask?

Like your research suggested, fear is what stops most people from executing. How does the program get past it?

[Shannon]

Yes, we will be doing a Black Friday sale.

I don't mind having a happy and prosperous client base, that's my goal.  It;s just that because of circumstances out of my control, the transition point between 5.11G and 6G has gotten out of whack for what I need to make it go smoothly.  I know this will pass and we'll make it, but it's also important to do so with as little stress as possible, since as you can imagine, transitioning to 6G is rather stressful for me.  Not only is it a matter of spending time on development and testing instead of building, it's also a matter of the Osbourne effect, which has set in because things have gone awry for reasons outside of my control.

This is the culmination of 13 years of work, and though I'm almost out of the tunnel, the work load to accomplish this is not insignificant, and neither are the expectations I have on my shoulders. 

I'm currently working on finishing the Key Script for the 6G-Beta test title, and when that's finished I have to build it and start testing it, and immediately start building something else to sell. 

I have some good ideas and you guys have offered some good ideas.  We will figure it out.

Brilliant, mate. Love your work. Well, as you know, we're all super excited. For my part I'll have a think about what to do after OF and you'll be getting a little bit of coin from me that way.

I'm glad my products are giving you value.  Thank you for your support.

[Shannon]

No.  Why do you ask?

Like your research suggested, fear is what stops most people from executing. How does the program get past it?

How it's getting past fear is not something I'm exactly free to talk about.    But it doesn't use the FRM.  I have found that certain goals do better with another method, which I have not detailed publicly.

In 6G, this alternate approach may eclipse the FRM entirely.