Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Shannon]

I believe it definitely has the potential to help with arthritis, but of course I don't currently have any testers who have arthritis, so I cannot say definitively just yet.



I have had no feedback on MEv3.



X4A-2000 has been in testing for I think the last 3 months now.  Testing is ongoing for two reasons:

1. We have only two people who can test it, and both are seriously involved in LTRs they want to keep, so both of them are the worst possible option for testing this program to see how it would respond to being used by the actual intended audience (guys who are free to actually respond to interested women).  This is why it's taking so long.  However, our only tester suitable for testing these won't be able to test until August, and testing will be over by then.
   
2. We are - in spite of all of the testers' efforts to resist the program and sabotage the responders - STILL seeing very impressive results, although not quite the testing goals yet.  This is why we will continue testing.  I believe that in spite of everything that has gone wrong or been done to shut down results or whatever else, we will achieve the testing goals within the next 30 to 60 days.  And given how bad the circumstances are with regard to the options available to us for people to test it, and how much is working against our success in achieving the program's testing goals, the fact that we are seeing impressive results regardless just blows my mind. 
   

Testing has come very close to achieving the testing parameters on five separate occasions so far.  In each case, the tester was forced to shut the woman down just before the test goal would have been achieved in order to prevent her from getting fired, cheating on her first date with someone else, causing a bar fight or some other similar situation.  We take moral, ethical and legal considerations very seriously when testing these things.  However, while these repeated situations give me strong confidence that X4A-2000 works and can and will achieve the design goal, I'm not going to charge Premium prices until we have at least one tester make it to that final step and achieve the testing goal outright.  I am confident we can achieve the goal, so I have authorized testing to continue through June and even through July if necessary.  Sorry it's taking so long, but testing this thing has been damned difficult given the circumstances and the limitations we face in doing so.  My testers have strict instructions to shut down any situation that is not ethical, moral or legal.



Beyond that, I cannot say anything else about X4A-2000 or testing, except that I am thoroughly impressed with what it has accomplished in spite of a virtual avalanche of things working against it.



Thank you for the congratulations, but we're not there yet.  I'm looking forward to eating a big old smoked tomahawk ribeye steak when I finish developing 6G.  I'm working on it as I can.

Thank you very much for the update on the programs, @Shannon .



I am very interested in X4A-2000, and am single. I also have an extremely similar situation as Diablo, to test it on. I'm currently using X4A-1511 on that situation. Given my background with women, and the single status, it could be fertile testing ground for the sub. I would be very interested and honoured to be a part of the process and to have potential to break through at last. Testing such a sub with people in relationships sounds like it's impossible to see if it actually works, so a single person is likely needed to see things to a full conclusion to evaluate. If it works for someone with my background, it should be more than effective for those who have more of a "normal" background. I would be willing to switch from X4A-1511 to it to evaluate it in this unique environment I have available to test in. It's definitely a solid testing environment to see what it can do!

What results are you getting from X4A-1511?

Also, I am interested in Grow Taller in time too, just to add that on to your discussion with other members.

The next sub after Self Development is probably going to be the weight loss sub I was planning, and then I'm strongly tempted to start upgrading UMS Stage 4 to v3.  I won't have time to upgrade all 4 stages before we start into 6G, but at least Stage 4 would be upgraded, and hot damn do I miss UMS.

Finally, the Self Development sub, will this sub have a lot on "self validation"? That seems to be a point of struggle for many, including myself and chasing the validation of women. I've worked hard on that now, I believe I'm better with it now, but for a long time it was gripping. Overall, I find that sub to be very interesting. I think it could be so useful for so many people, by the sounds of it. A great book I read long ago, "No More Mr. Nice Guy" deals with a lot of concepts it seems to include. The sub reminded me of it for some reason first off. A lot of RP content pushes those tenets too. It seems like it could be a great sub for men to use, in particular. It could potentially change lives I think. I think you may have a very special program on your hands there, we'll see!

Self Validation is in the list of goals.  This program is going to be very useful for nearly everyone.  Young and old and in between, male and female, you name it.  Even people who don't think they need it.  It should be very special indeed for improving mental and emotional health.

Just going to add some love for DRS. It definitely cuts down on the constant arguments, rude treatment and nonsense from one particular person it seems. The GS doesn't seem to, I've had several massive blowouts subjected towards me that were ridiculous and unneeded, exhausting, nonsensical. Gaslighting and other fun stuff always. Seems the DRS is the only thing that seems to quell them from memory. But it's been a long time since I've used it because it isn't included in more recent subs, sadly. It's missed though. Hopefully in the future it's SOP, for some annoying ones...it's just needed. They seem to only understand one thing. Your post on them is bang on from my experience. One-sided.

DRS is undoubtedly useful.  I'm almost certainly going to be rebuilding the stand alone shields soon, and take them out of the skeleton script and make each program use the best shield for that title (or none) in the key script once we hit 6G.  Hopefully will be able to allow the use of a shield and a title at once, so you can mix and match, but we shall see.

Thank you for all of your work. I truly hope I could be included to give 2000 some testing miles to give some feedback for you!

There's a ribeye in it for you if it helps me "execute", haha!

X4A-2000 testing is almost finished at this point, and we're not taking any more testers for it.  Testers need to have certain specific qualifications to be accepted as testers, and it's very hard to find these qualifications in anyone.  That is in large part why we have so few testers. 

Testers don't get to choose what they test, either.  It depends on their qualifications and circumstances, and what I am working with.  

Also, X4A-2000 and later are Premium programs, and those are even harder to test because Premium programs are designed for people who already execute programs like Maverick and DMSI well.  They don't try harder to get you to execute if you don't want to; they presume you will execute without trying to get you to.  This allows me to strip out a large amount of scripting designed to get people past self sabotage and resistance, which gives the user a lot more brain power to focus on the goals of the program.  The result is that most of our customer base is not qualified for testing (or using) Premiums.

Premiums will not work well for you if you struggle to execute programs like DMSI or Maverick.  This would seem to disqualify you for testing a Premium.  I am curious to know how your run of X4A-1511 is going, though.

[Frosted]

@Shannon I am super interested in paying for an upgraded UMS2 stage 4. I’m also interested in an OGSF + EHPRA combo, and I also saw @Have at ye mention he wishes he could run both at the same time, which I figure is about the same thing as him also asking you for an EHPRA + OGSF combo .

[Have at ye]

@Shannon I am super interested in paying for an upgraded UMS2 stage 4. I’m also interested in an OGSF + EHPRA combo, and I also saw @Have at ye mention he wishes he could run both at the same time, which I figure is about the same thing as him also asking you for an EHPRA + OGSF combo .

Well, EPHRA already includes OGSF-lite I guess (it includes the 5G version updated to 5.11G AFAIR) but its approach to trauma removal feels different. I'm curous what using both approaches (trauma healing + the OGSF trauma removal) at the same time would bring about.

[kserenyi]

@Shannon I am super interested in paying for an upgraded UMS2 stage 4. I’m also interested in an OGSF + EHPRA combo, and I also saw @Have at ye  mention he wishes he could run both at the same time, which I figure is about the same thing as him also asking you for an EHPRA + OGSF combo .

I would like to second an upgraded UMSv2 stage 4.  I've been trying and failing to get UMS to execute for years and I realize we won't be getting a 6th gen version any time in the near future.  UMSv2 already has a version of EHPRA4 included with it which could be upgraded as well.

[K-Train]

Gotcha, thanks for that explanation! So, since counter-attack is not an option, and since we do need to be efficient with energy to power these new programs, then perhaps adding an absorption/draining shield would help? In this scenario, the user utilizes a shield that actively seeks to drain the incoming negativity from the aggressor and uses it to feed the program's execution. In such an instance, not only is the aggressor losing energy, but the "victim" or shield bearer, in this case, now actively gains from it. Potentially, wouldn’t this dissuade the aggressor because now:

a) they're losing energy attacking the user
b) the user is not only unaffected but now even HAPPIER in the face of this opposition

Is such an option possible or feasible?

EDIT: Perhaps even the "Black Hole Shield" would be useful.

I know you're super busy Shannon, I posted the above earlier in regards to the DRS vs Grounding Shield issue but you probably didn't see it. No worries, cheers!

[Have at ye]

Gotcha, thanks for that explanation! So, since counter-attack is not an option, and since we do need to be efficient with energy to power these new programs, then perhaps adding an absorption/draining shield would help? In this scenario, the user utilizes a shield that actively seeks to drain the incoming negativity from the aggressor and uses it to feed the program's execution. In such an instance, not only is the aggressor losing energy, but the "victim" or shield bearer, in this case, now actively gains from it. Potentially, wouldn’t this dissuade the aggressor because now:

a) they're losing energy attacking the user
b) the user is not only unaffected but now even HAPPIER in the face of this opposition

Is such an option possible or feasible?

EDIT: Perhaps even the "Black Hole Shield" would be useful.

I know you're super busy Shannon, I posted the above earlier in regards to the DRS vs Grounding Shield issue but you probably didn't see it. No worries, cheers!

There's a stand-alone Transmutative Absorption Shield available that does something like this, but as far as I remember it's a pretty energy intensive exercise.

But should a modular apporach to shielding be viable in the future (mixing and matching a program with a shield of your choice) then why not try something like that.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I am super interested in paying for an upgraded UMS2 stage 4. I’m also interested in an OGSF + EHPRA combo, and I also saw @Have at ye  mention he wishes he could run both at the same time, which I figure is about the same thing as him also asking you for an EHPRA + OGSF combo .

Combining OGSF and EHPRA is something I considered, and have since decided against.  Here is why.

For those who need deep healing and severe trauma recovery, having them separate offers a way to keep going when one gets to be too much or goes too far for the person to be able to handle.  Then you can switch off and continue making progress.

As a result, I have decided that it is better to have them stay separate programs.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I am super interested in paying for an upgraded UMS2 stage 4. I’m also interested in an OGSF + EHPRA combo, and I also saw @Have at ye  mention he wishes he could run both at the same time, which I figure is about the same thing as him also asking you for an EHPRA + OGSF combo .

Well, EPHRA already includes OGSF-lite I guess (it includes the 5G version updated to 5.11G AFAIR) but its approach to trauma removal feels different. I'm curous what using both approaches (trauma healing + the OGSF trauma removal) at the same time would bring about.

It would likely be too much focus on trauma recovery.  Remember that with things like this, you cannot push too much OR too little.

[Shannon]

Gotcha, thanks for that explanation! So, since counter-attack is not an option, and since we do need to be efficient with energy to power these new programs, then perhaps adding an absorption/draining shield would help? In this scenario, the user utilizes a shield that actively seeks to drain the incoming negativity from the aggressor and uses it to feed the program's execution. In such an instance, not only is the aggressor losing energy, but the "victim" or shield bearer, in this case, now actively gains from it. Potentially, wouldn’t this  dissuade the aggressor because now:

a) they're losing energy attacking the user
b) the user is not only unaffected but now even HAPPIER in the face of this opposition

Is such an option possible or feasible?

EDIT: Perhaps even the "Black Hole Shield" would be useful.

I know you're super busy Shannon, I posted the above earlier in regards to the DRS vs Grounding Shield issue but you probably didn't see it. No worries, cheers!

The Grounding Shield drains the incoming negative energy into the ground.  It is a draining shield.  And the transformative absorbtion shield is already out, and nobody uses it. 

Black Hole Shield isn't for direct defense, it's for indirect defense.  They cannot attack what they cannot find, or do not know exists.  But there will be a series of stand alone shields eventually including the Black Hole Shield, although I suspect some of you may not like what it does.  It breaks ALL connections to EVERYTHING energetically and leaves you very much isolated and alone.  It's not intended for long term use.

[emiebou]

Just going to add some love for DRS. It definitely cuts down on the constant arguments, rude treatment and nonsense from one particular person it seems. The GS doesn't seem to, I've had several massive blowouts subjected towards me that were ridiculous and unneeded, exhausting, nonsensical. Gaslighting and other fun stuff always. Seems the DRS is the only thing that seems to quell them from memory. But it's been a long time since I've used it because it isn't included in more recent subs, sadly. It's missed though. Hopefully in the future it's SOP, for some annoying ones...it's just needed. They seem to only understand one thing. Your post on them is bang on from my experience. One-sided.



Thank you for all of your work. I truly hope I could be included to give 2000 some testing miles to give some feedback for you!



There's a ribeye in it for you if it helps me "execute", haha!

Just like my experience when using GS. I wrote in my journal when using MM with GS, it seems like if someone has a lot of mental baggage, they'll take it out on you. There are examples and situations where the person we're talking to shouldn't be cursing at me. 1 in a business meeting when the head of a division from a potential new supplier requested a meeting to introduce themselves and asked for a chance to participate in a tender. What happened was this person kept verbally attacking me even though we were just discussing a normal topic, which made my business colleague who was sitting a bit far come over and ask who this person was and why they were causing trouble here. Of course, after that, they were blacklisted from our company.

[emiebou]

The next sub after Self Development is probably going to be the weight loss sub I was planning, and then I'm strongly tempted to start upgrading UMS Stage 4 to v3.  I won't have time to upgrade all 4 stages before we start into 6G, but at least Stage 4 would be upgraded, and hot damn do I miss UMS.

That's great news, UMS v3 + DRS coming soon. 

Even though I've interspersed it with other products like MM, OH, OPH, after these 2 years I'm still using UMS, currently on UMS v2 Stage 4, and life still keeps surprising me. Living peacefully with good luck in Stage 1 up to a life that seems stirred up with various big problems suddenly resolving very well in Stage 3. UMS is a very great program, but it really does take time to start showing results.

[Shannon]

The next sub after Self Development is probably going to be the weight loss sub I was planning, and then I'm strongly tempted to start upgrading UMS Stage 4 to v3.  I won't have time to upgrade all 4 stages before we start into 6G, but at least Stage 4 would be upgraded, and hot damn do I miss UMS.

That's great news, UMS v3 + DRS coming soon. 

Even though I've interspersed it with other products like MM, OH, OPH, after these 2 years I'm still using UMS, currently on UMS v2 Stage 4, and life still keeps surprising me. Living peacefully with good luck in Stage 1 up to a life that seems stirred up with various big problems suddenly resolving very well in Stage 3. UMS is a very great program, but it really does take time to start showing results.

To clarify:

UMS v3 Stage 4 is under consideration, and it is unlikely that Stages 1-2-3 get built in v3.  I am doing this as a way of having a more up-to-date UMS option to use for those who have already run through Stage 1-2-3 of V2, and have this tide us over until we have 6G in which to build all of the stages for v4.

I had no plans to implement DRS in it, but I can work on that if the models indicate it is a more effective option.

[ncbeareatingman]

 I Have UMS  "V"-most recent.....

 1) Even if the newer version gets actually built in V3 mode, Unless its a free upgrade , which I AM assuming is it NOT going to be then...
 2) I will stick with getting Self Development, and during the months of usage, there of,  I will seriously consider getting and using OGFS 5.11 Until such time to get & switch to the 6G version
3) or Lay low do-nothing ( NOT doing so really)
4) get the Latest of whatever in 6G that is MOST NEEDED/required at the time, be that Healing or Health related or Money related



That's great news, UMS v3 + DRS coming soon. 

Even though I've interspersed it with other products like MM, OH, OPH, after these 2 years I'm still using UMS, currently on UMS v2 Stage 4, and life still keeps surprising me. Living peacefully with good luck in Stage 1 up to a life that seems stirred up with various big problems suddenly resolving very well in Stage 3. UMS is a very great program, but it really does take time to start showing results.

To clarify:

UMS v3 Stage 4 is under consideration, and it is unlikely that Stages 1-2-3 get built in v3.  I am doing this as a way of having a more up-to-date UMS option to use for those who have already run through Stage 1-2-3 of V2, and have this tide us over until we have 6G in which to build all of the stages for v4.

I had no plans to implement DRS in it, but I can work on that if the models indicate it is a more effective option.

[Shannon]

@ncbeareatingman I don't see what you wrote in that post... what happened to it?