12-30-2016, 09:43 PM
Interesting thanks for the info
Subliminal Talk
by Indigo Mind Labs
12-30-2016, 09:43 PM
Interesting thanks for the info
12-31-2016, 06:04 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-31-2016, 07:07 AM by JackOfHearts.)
Day 30:
I Went in a club yesterday night with a friend, first hour I didn't notice anything different. There weren't anything out of the ordinary from what I'm used to since playing DMSI. Which means I saw some girls checking me out but well not the hot girl I'm looking for. There was actually one which seems to be attracted to me and is pretty to me, she stopped in front of me with her friends trying to find an excuse for the reason why she stopped there. I saw her last week and she did the same thing so it doesn't seem to be a coincidence, a few girls did it that I consider pretty. After around 1h30 I had danced a bit and there was an average girl checking me out a lot while dancing. I decided to add Impi Red at this point as I already checked the water. I put 1.5 spray as the first spray didn't come out full. Low and behold the results went through the roof. The first 30 mins nothing special happened, there was one girl trying to hook up with me, not pretty enough to me. She put her back/Ass in front of me and danced like nothing was happening, but I knew what she was trying to do, even my friend noticed and he told me "to go dance with her" I wasn't interested though. I don't consider that special as I already saw that kind of stuff with Impi red and Bad Wolf, and a few other phero (not Sob oil unfortunately). But after around 1 hour I started to see a lot of pretty girls checking me out or holding eyes contact for much longer that what I consider normal especially for the pretty one in a club. I even saw a girl that I tried to hook with during SM3 but failed checking me out heavily, trying to dance near me as much as possible without causing suspicions to what she was trying to do. It was clear to me though as she was looking in my direction too much, and she was getting closer and closer (her friend too was looking at me). She is more of the trashy type of girl and after the rejection I got from her last time if she would have tried something obvious on me I would have straightly rejected her as I don't forget that kind of things. There was a lot of pretty girls not ignoring me, this wasn't typical, a lot of them hold eyes contact with me for an extended period of time and kept doing it repeatedly. One was more obvious, she was a brunette, aloof type, trying to look confident and she was actually confident, raw type of hair style, she appealed to me as she looked like my last sex friend. The kind of girls that do things other wont without any shame about it, she was a bit weird though. So I saw her and I went to dance near her. She was looking at the floor only, avoiding any type of eyes contact around, typical of pretty girls in clubs that don't want to be bothered. After around 3 mins dancing with me doing absolutely nothing she looked at me straightly in the eyes for about 5 seconds. Then was back again looking at the floor, 10 seconds later she does it again and she smiled at end. She was looking at me with some kind confidence, a bit of arrogance, she didn't seem sexually attracted though, more like she was trying to test me. I kept dancing, I barely reacted to what she did like nothing actually happened, I kept the eyes contact strong like she wasn't special to me. The other guys around looked at me surprised, she probably didn't check them at all. After that she looked at me but it wasn't as obvious, she was hiding it, trying to dance with some kind of confidence, but she wasn't looking at the floor anymore like at the beginning, she was watching me closely. I didn't do anything about it though, I just danced, enjoyed the attention she was giving me. She left after 20 mins, a mum was there after 10 mins. I should have tried something but I was actually fearing the rejection, the trashy girl I talked about above showed some big interest while I was on SM3 but when I approached her she ignored me so I'm not as excited about those things now, I think some of them show interest to boost their ego, this girl in her stare it seems it was her intent to put me down. Useless to say I never had that king of attention with IMPi Red alone. But I believe Impi red really help me with the mood elevation as I get bored in clubs at some point but yesterday I happy all the night, If you are looking for a replacement to Instant Shine Impi Red is the perfect candidate as there is no tiredness (at least not noticeable) and the happiness seems to last even the day afterward, the scent too. Impi Red is a beast to me it's a shame most pheromone forum don't mention that one, it's old but far from obsolete, the best pheromone I ever tried actually. I went to sleep with the GF then as she wanted to meet me (I didn't see her since DMSI V3) it was around 4am. She didn't seem to react any different to me. I was more playful, but she didn't seem any different. I asked her about my perfume, what it smelled like to her, she said mint with chocolate. I don't believe Impi Red smell like that at all. But she really like mint in a perfume so maybe it's the phero tricking her. Impi Red smells really good to me, the closest perfume I found to it is "Hugo Boss bottled Intense", I'm wearing it right now and it's very closed to what Impi Red smell like especially when it has dried down a bit (it's more sweet at first) http://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Hugo-...29904.html I had sex in the morning but I initiated she wasn't really any different, she was very tired though so maybe it's due to that. Sex seems a bit better, not sure if it's due to DMSI though. I think I'm going to test Bad Wolf on her, just to see if I get any good reaction out of her. She prefer the dark raw type of guy more which is why I think she lost interest since I'm not on SM3 anymore.
12-31-2016, 02:05 PM
So what am I to take from this report?
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01-01-2017, 02:51 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-01-2017, 02:58 AM by JackOfHearts.)
I don't know Shannon, that I like Impi Red maybe
But more seriously It's been a long time I didn't use phero so I wanted to use it, I felt that it wasn't fair to use only subliminals all the time. That's the excuse I thought of. Maybe it's just resistance as I was bored and I wanted to spice things up. At first I wanted to use a perfume to compliment DMSI but all of them felt not good enough to me and I didn't want to buy another one. I went out yesterday again, I think there were still some residue from Impi Red. I did notice more women checking me out than what is normal in a night club, some even smiling at me, some staring, some that kept looking over and over again. I will see next time when going out in a club without anything if I still get those high level of IOI which is very rare in club. Then I guess if it is the case it's safe to say the results were more from DMSI than Impi Red. Maybe Impi Red is an enhancer a bit like Xist, though I never saw any obvious self effect from Xist oil.
01-01-2017, 04:17 AM
You don't need an excuse, I was just not sure if you were thinking there was something I should know.
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01-01-2017, 04:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-01-2017, 04:42 AM by JackOfHearts.)
Maybe something useful to add would be that I have the impression like every women is checking me out, I had that impression too when running BIABW.
I still feel a bit on and off though like there is some resistance still in the background. I got some burst of euphoria during the week but then some big boredom/apathy state, it's on and off. On another subject I wanted to ask you what do you think about a Vanilla Fragrance on a man. I love Vanilla fragrances but I have been wondering if it's not too woman like on a man. For example I have a copy of Tobacco Vanilla from Tomford, I really like it but sometimes I think it's too sweet, especially when it dries down and the vanilla get more strong. Do you have any Vanilla type fragrance for men that you intend to sell?
01-01-2017, 04:41 AM
(01-01-2017, 04:24 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: Maybe something useful to add would be that I have the impression like every women is checking me out, I had that impression too when running BIABW. I have Tom Ford's Tobacco Vanille, the real thing. I use it occasionally, but it's really not very useful for what I want a fragrance to do. It smells good, but it's sort of "for a different crowd" than I spend time with. Definitely not worth what it costs, IMHO... good fragrance, but not that good. Vanilla fragrances on a man of course will depend on the fragrance and the man. Some are designed to be more masculine, and some are not. I happen to enjoy Creed's Sublime Vanille, and even though it's supposed to be a woman's fragrance, I wear it (and my own recreation of it) from time to time. It's just beautiful in a way that I very much enjoy, and when I wear it, everyone seems to enjoy it on me. It's not really masculine, but it's also not so feminine that a confident man can't pull it off. I wear it because I enjoy it, and IDGAF what anyone else thinks. This, coupled with how good it smells, seems to be all I need to pull it off. I am working on a chocolate fragrance that happens to use a healthy dose of real Madagascar vanilla bourbon in it, and it smells very good on me. Still working out how to make it last, but the vanilla part does not have that issue. But there are some vanilla fragrances that smell too feminine. And some that don't fit my personality. And some that react badly with my skin chemistry. And some that use the wrong extraction type for the vanilla. And... There are only two reasons to wear a fragrance: either because you like it, or because you want to attract someone else by wearing it. If you like it on you, wear it. If you want to attract someone else and they like it on you, wear it. And the rest can take a hike! As for Vanilla fragrances for me that I intend to sell... The chocolate fragrance will be unisex, if I can make it last long enough to please me. The Sublimie Vanille-Alike is beautiful, but my version is slightly more feminine than masculine or unisex. And eventually I will make one I have had in mind for a while now, a dark, smoky, masculine vanilla fragrance. Maybe vanilla-vetiver, or vanilla-oud, or perhaps vanilla-birch tar as the main accord. Still working that one out in my head yet though. I need to get my hands on a variety of different types of vanilla extractions to figure which is best for that. Right now, I have a synthetic vanilla that's just not even close to good enough for such a fragrance, and a high end vanilla bourbon, but I want to see what other options I have as well.
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01-01-2017, 05:02 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-01-2017, 05:25 AM by JackOfHearts.)
Vanilla Vetiver I have been thinking about making one myself for a long time now. I have been smelling this one a lot while going through different perfume shop and I really like it a lot:
http://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Chris...14811.html Although it's not written that it contains vanilla I believe there is some during the dry down as the Myrrh note is just too sweet to be only Myrrh, the comments on it also confirms the vanilla. I also smelled a vanilla frankincense perfume that I like a lot (don't remember the name), I never thought about the mix between frankincense and vanilla, when I smelled it I was pleasantly surprised about it. It makes it more masculine and at the same time the Vanilla is still appealing. Edit: I prefer the copy I have than the real Tom ford tobacco vanilla that I tried in a store. http://thefragranceshop.com/tobacco-vani...e-for-men/
01-01-2017, 02:07 PM
I have some of the most delicious top grade green hougary frankincense that I got my hands on, and made an extract of. It's really an eye opener compared to what "frankincense" usually smells like. I also have some white hougary I extracted. Both smell miles better than what is commonly used for "frankincense oil", which if memory serves is a grade or two down in quality from hougary grade.
So far I have used vanilla bourbon and white hougary together in only one fragrance, and they are used as "steering notes" in that fragrance; you really cannot smell them by themselves in the composition. That fragrance is Sakura, and it is showcasing the scent of cherry blossoms. Very delicate, so you know I had to use these two very carefully to not blow away the main note. But that makes me wonder what I could do with such an accord. So much still to explore...
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01-02-2017, 02:09 AM
I would love to try this frankincense, but for now I will use the cheap carteri which I payed for around 12 euro/10ml.
Frankincense is reputed to be very expensive but the cheap one is not which makes me wonder sometimes if it is really frankincense.
01-02-2017, 02:23 AM
(01-02-2017, 02:09 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: I would love to try this frankincense, but for now I will use the cheap carteri which I payed for around 12 euro/10ml. Frankincense is expensive, just as anything else is, when you buy the high quality stuff.
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01-06-2017, 02:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2017, 02:57 PM by JackOfHearts.)
Day 37:
It seems to get slowly better over time. I'm getting more and more smiles from women, it's not a big smile though. yesterday night I saw a lot of women smiling and looking in my direction while dancing, it's getting better slowly, I'm getting more confident about it. The pheromone I have been using doesn't seem to detract DMSI vibe it seems, I can see what comes from the phero and what comes from DMSI because I know what the phero does mostly. I also been using phero to forget about the sub and this forum, I focus too much on the subs results so this is a good escape I guess.
01-15-2017, 02:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-15-2017, 03:37 AM by JackOfHearts.)
Day 44:
I Decided to start listening to version B. I wanted to continue with version A when I read Chaos last post as I felt very needy while listening to version A. So I think I still have a lot to clear. At the same time there is so much to clear that it feels like an endless path so testing version B is my final choice. Let's see how I react to this one. I didn't listen to A last night so I have done version A for 44 days. Last night I saw some good effects on girls around me, a lot of girls seems interested and were looking at me in the club, it felt a little better than last time in the club. Last time I used phero was Thursday night so it's safe to say that It was only DMSI Saturday night. One guy I barely knew in the club last night asked me If I remember him, like I was very important to him, I said yes even if I didn't remember, was tired, 2 guys actually said that to me, same answer to both, I may knew both of them, my memory is shity, they both insisted though. I felt the effect of the aura more that usual and it was affecting both girls and guys. The effect of the aura is still on and off for me though, during the beginning of the week I didn't saw much interest from others which is why I used phero.
01-15-2017, 01:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-15-2017, 02:02 PM by JackOfHearts.)
First feeling of uneasiness coming in. I listened at around 15:10pm to my first loop.
Didn't feel much different after listening to the 2 loops, it's great it's only 2 loops to listen. At 8pm I felt different, I felt like I should have stayed on DMSI A. Motivation level near 0, watching the walking dead felt very very boring and more fearful/ugly/useless than when I was on A. It's like when I was on A there was some kind of a light filter removing 20% of the ugliness or desperation feeling that you would get from watching that kind of series. Which I didn't want to watch at first exactly for that reason. But while on A I didn't felt as much "desperation feeling" watching this series even the opposite, it felt like a great example of survival skills (Saturn/Mars). I started watching the walking dead on DMSI A so I wouldn't know how I would feel about it without being on it. It may just be a boring episode too as everyone was crying on their dead, it felt boring as hell. I never had any attachment to dead people or burying your dead or crying for someone dead, most people would describe me as cold on that, heartless. This is mostly because I believe physical death is not the end so it just feel like drama to me. I slept at 10pm, I didn't want to read any forums, everything seems boring and pointless so I went to sleep. I usually sleep much later. Woke up 2 hours later at 12:30am. Some little bad dreams woke me up, I never had a bad dream about reviews from "Nude Alpha" which what I was thinking about before sleeping, I felt like I was fighting something in my dreams, inability to make the product work maybe or fake reviews. After catching up that I was still half dreaming I missed again the healing version because I felt like I need more clearing, I felt bad about myself mostly, things that I should do that I don't, responsibilities, etc. I ain't going back on it though, I'm not going back on that decision, healing can wait at least a week or 2. |
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