Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Illumi]

Shannon, is it possible for a girl to recognize you as an ascendant alpha? What happens when she does?

Yes.

She will almost always decide she wants to be part of your inner circle - whether that is as a friend, lover, relational partner, etc. Depends on how your personalities mesh, and what you allow her to do.

It is also possible that she becomes a dedicated opponent, but that's rare, and typically only happens with insecure control freaks who are afraid of you for not being someone they can control.

That happened with a girl in my class. She complained about me twice and people just assumed she was right. She is very very hot and is always surronded by 3 or more orbiters. Since i have my own life and friends she was challenged or something.
Thank god she layed off me now.

People automatically believe females. The hotter they are, the more emphasis is placed on it. When I was in HS, I tried to help a really ugly girl with her depression by befriending her. She decided she wanted me to take her virginity, and when I would not, she told everyone that I had tried and failed because I was a lousy lover. The truth was, I was a damned virgin. But nobody even bothered to ask if what she said was true. Even my own friends automatically believed her story. Which was completely false.

That's just cruel, even through you had good intentions and tried to help her. She fakes a story so that she would feel better about being rejected. Oh well i guess we will have to deal with this too once V3 is out

You might want to add this on the DMSI sales page : warrning! With your new maximised sexuall irresistability you might reject someone and they would get butthurt #sarcasm

[Shannon]

Kids are cruel. Ugly horny kids are very cruel, what can I say.

I guess she was trying to get me before I got her.

[ffaux]

Shannon, is it possible for a girl to recognize you as an ascendant alpha? What happens when she does?

Yes.

She will almost always decide she wants to be part of your inner circle - whether that is as a friend, lover, relational partner, etc. Depends on how your personalities mesh, and what you allow her to do.

It is also possible that she becomes a dedicated opponent, but that's rare, and typically only happens with insecure control freaks who are afraid of you for not being someone they can control.

That happened with a girl in my class. She complained about me twice and people just assumed she was right. She is very very hot and is always surronded by 3 or more orbiters. Since i have my own life and friends she was challenged or something.
Thank god she layed off me now.

People automatically believe females. The hotter they are, the more emphasis is placed on it. When I was in HS, I tried to help a really ugly girl with her depression by befriending her. She decided she wanted me to take her virginity, and when I would not, she told everyone that I had tried and failed because I was a lousy lover. The truth was, I was a damned virgin. But nobody even bothered to ask if what she said was true. Even my own friends automatically believed her story. Which was completely false.

This is what has happened to me with the girl I just broke up with. Not the details of course but just people believing everything she says and no one even asking me what my version of the story is. What gives? She's turned one of my friendship circle against me. What can I do in this situation? I feel so powerless.

[CatMan]

7. I'm a bit confused by this recent use of the AOSI term in your posts when the program was renamed DMSI awhile ago. I was just surprised to see that name again and didn't understand what was going on, even the term "AOSI tuning" I'm not familiar with.

"A" stands for "aura," which is the energetic field responsible for communicating a lot of information to other people, so I assume he's tuning the aura programming. Still an aura non-believer?

You misunderstood me, maybe reading too far into my words too.

All I wanted to know is why he is using the AOSI term again. That confused me, and with talks of him making spin-off programs I wanted to understand this.

I'm not sure I did, but whatever you say, dude. Seems Shannon's response was inline with my own - the last part, well, that's something I added, as I remember you saying as much in the past. But whatevs!

You must be reading into it, because it was a simple question about a name, that's it.

I asked why this "AOSI tuning" term was used in Shannon's journal, I thought it was called DMSI now. I just wanted to see why and if it meant another branch off program like what he's posted about in another thread for DMRI and DMSRI. That was a new term to me "AOSI tuning". It had nothing to do with my views on "auras" from awhile back that you brought up. It was a simple question about the NAME.

I guess this is one of those times text comes across so different than normal or something. It was LITERALLY a simple question about a name.

That's it, that's all. It wasn't some dig, or a troll, or some nonsense. It was a simple obvious normal question about differing names that I wanted clarified, that was completely normal to ask.

I hope it's clear now. I meant NOTHING by it, I asked about the name, that's it, pal.

[CatMan]

People automatically believe females. The hotter they are, the more emphasis is placed on it. When I was in HS, I tried to help a really ugly girl with her depression by befriending her. She decided she wanted me to take her virginity, and when I would not, she told everyone that I had tried and failed because I was a lousy lover. The truth was, I was a damned virgin. But nobody even bothered to ask if what she said was true. Even my own friends automatically believed her story. Which was completely false.

Hoo boy...my past is very similar as you know. I took more damage from my spurned girl. But I agree with females being default believed on everything, that's for sure. Even if you're exonerated, many will just think you "got off" somehow. Very scary at times, in this misandric western culture you can be character assassinated by women or worse very quick, even if you are completely innocent.

[RTBoss]

7. I'm a bit confused by this recent use of the AOSI term in your posts when the program was renamed DMSI awhile ago. I was just surprised to see that name again and didn't understand what was going on, even the term "AOSI tuning" I'm not familiar with.

"A" stands for "aura," which is the energetic field responsible for communicating a lot of information to other people, so I assume he's tuning the aura programming. Still an aura non-believer?

You misunderstood me, maybe reading too far into my words too.

All I wanted to know is why he is using the AOSI term again. That confused me, and with talks of him making spin-off programs I wanted to understand this.

I'm not sure I did, but whatever you say, dude. Seems Shannon's response was inline with my own - the last part, well, that's something I added, as I remember you saying as much in the past. But whatevs!

I don't understand your hostility to me on something so small and irrelevant. You must be reading into it, because it was a simple question about a name, that's it. Period.

A simple question about a name. That's all it was.

I asked why this "AOSI tuning" term was used in Shannon's journal, I thought it was called DMSI now. I just wanted to see why and if it meant another branch off program like what he's posted about in another thread for DMRI and DMSRI...talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. That was a new term to me "AOSI tuning". It had nothing to do with my views on "auras" from awhile back that you brought up. It was a simple question about the NAME, not some debate.

No reason for snark thrown at me twice today for zero reason.

I guess this is one of those times text comes across so different than normal or something. It was LITERALLY a simple question about a name.

A simple question about a name.

That's it, that's all. It wasn't some dig, or a troll, or some nonsense. It was a simple obvious normal question about differing names that I wanted clarified, that was completely normal to ask.

I hope it's clear now.

There was no hostility, and then you "called me out," for whatever reason - like it was my misunderstanding, rather your apparent inability to make yourself clear the first time. Then you go and tell me I'm reading into things, twice.

So it was a simple question, and I provided a simple answer. In my opinion, there was no snarkiness or hostility - perhaps you were "reading into it."

I've had a bad day, and maybe you're getting an unfair shake by me, but your original reply pissed me off, plain and simple.

Are we clear? Clear as mud.

PS - If you have another bone to pick with me, PM me.

[Shannon]

Shannon, is it possible for a girl to recognize you as an ascendant alpha? What happens when she does?

Yes.

She will almost always decide she wants to be part of your inner circle - whether that is as a friend, lover, relational partner, etc. Depends on how your personalities mesh, and what you allow her to do.

It is also possible that she becomes a dedicated opponent, but that's rare, and typically only happens with insecure control freaks who are afraid of you for not being someone they can control.

That happened with a girl in my class. She complained about me twice and people just assumed she was right. She is very very hot and is always surronded by 3 or more orbiters. Since i have my own life and friends she was challenged or something.
Thank god she layed off me now.

People automatically believe females. The hotter they are, the more emphasis is placed on it. When I was in HS, I tried to help a really ugly girl with her depression by befriending her. She decided she wanted me to take her virginity, and when I would not, she told everyone that I had tried and failed because I was a lousy lover. The truth was, I was a damned virgin. But nobody even bothered to ask if what she said was true. Even my own friends automatically believed her story. Which was completely false.

This is what has happened to me with the girl I just broke up with. Not the details of course but just people believing everything she says and no one even asking me what my version of the story is. What gives? She's turned one of my friendship circle against me. What can I do in this situation? I feel so powerless.

Make people think instead of just go on their irrational desire to believe by default.

Ask them questions like... why do you believe her without ever having even asked for my side of the story? Does she have any incentive to lie? What would mine be?

Whatever questions force them to THINK and get it. And be demanding! Be loud! Get upset! And then explain that you are upset because you are being lied about, and nobody is even questioning her lies because she's female, and nobody is thinking at all. Ask them... how would you feel in my shoes?

The key is to get them to use more than one and a half brain cells. If they have that many. Get them to understand your point of view.

[Shannon]

"A" stands for "aura," which is the energetic field responsible for communicating a lot of information to other people, so I assume he's tuning the aura programming. Still an aura non-believer?

You misunderstood me, maybe reading too far into my words too.

All I wanted to know is why he is using the AOSI term again. That confused me, and with talks of him making spin-off programs I wanted to understand this.

I'm not sure I did, but whatever you say, dude. Seems Shannon's response was inline with my own - the last part, well, that's something I added, as I remember you saying as much in the past. But whatevs!

I don't understand your hostility to me on something so small and irrelevant. You must be reading into it, because it was a simple question about a name, that's it. Period.

A simple question about a name. That's all it was.

I asked why this "AOSI tuning" term was used in Shannon's journal, I thought it was called DMSI now. I just wanted to see why and if it meant another branch off program like what he's posted about in another thread for DMRI and DMSRI...talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. That was a new term to me "AOSI tuning". It had nothing to do with my views on "auras" from awhile back that you brought up. It was a simple question about the NAME, not some debate.

No reason for snark thrown at me twice today for zero reason.

I guess this is one of those times text comes across so different than normal or something. It was LITERALLY a simple question about a name.

A simple question about a name.

That's it, that's all. It wasn't some dig, or a troll, or some nonsense. It was a simple obvious normal question about differing names that I wanted clarified, that was completely normal to ask.

I hope it's clear now.

There was no hostility, and then you "called me out," for whatever reason - like it was my misunderstanding, rather your apparent inability to make yourself clear the first time. Then you go and tell me I'm reading into things, twice.

So it was a simple question, and I provided a simple answer. In my opinion, there was no snarkiness or hostility - perhaps you were "reading into it."

I've had a bad day, and maybe you're getting an unfair shake by me, but your original reply pissed me off, plain and simple.

Are we clear? Clear as mud.

PS - If you have another bone to pick with me, PM me.

Gentlemen, how about we just take the high road and put this down as a miscommunication and drop it.

[CatMan]

"A" stands for "aura," which is the energetic field responsible for communicating a lot of information to other people, so I assume he's tuning the aura programming. Still an aura non-believer?

You misunderstood me, maybe reading too far into my words too.

All I wanted to know is why he is using the AOSI term again. That confused me, and with talks of him making spin-off programs I wanted to understand this.

I'm not sure I did, but whatever you say, dude. Seems Shannon's response was inline with my own - the last part, well, that's something I added, as I remember you saying as much in the past. But whatevs!

I don't understand your hostility to me on something so small and irrelevant. You must be reading into it, because it was a simple question about a name, that's it. Period.

A simple question about a name. That's all it was.

I asked why this "AOSI tuning" term was used in Shannon's journal, I thought it was called DMSI now. I just wanted to see why and if it meant another branch off program like what he's posted about in another thread for DMRI and DMSRI...talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. That was a new term to me "AOSI tuning". It had nothing to do with my views on "auras" from awhile back that you brought up. It was a simple question about the NAME, not some debate.

No reason for snark thrown at me twice today for zero reason.

I guess this is one of those times text comes across so different than normal or something. It was LITERALLY a simple question about a name.

A simple question about a name.

That's it, that's all. It wasn't some dig, or a troll, or some nonsense. It was a simple obvious normal question about differing names that I wanted clarified, that was completely normal to ask.

I hope it's clear now.

There was no hostility, and then you "called me out," for whatever reason - like it was my misunderstanding, rather your apparent inability to make yourself clear the first time. Then you go and tell me I'm reading into things, twice.

So it was a simple question, and I provided a simple answer. In my opinion, there was no snarkiness or hostility - perhaps you were "reading into it."

I've had a bad day, and maybe you're getting an unfair shake by me, but your original reply pissed me off, plain and simple.

Are we clear? Clear as mud.

It's obvious you are having a bad day. I can tell that, I knew that with your first post to me. I'm sorry to hear that.

It was a simple question about a name, that's it.

I have no idea why my reply to you would piss you off. Your reply to me first, was unnecessary and antagonistic, I asked Shannon a question, about a name and if that meant a new spin off program like DMRI and DMSRI. I could tell then you were in a bad mood, but I didn't "call you out" at all. I simply gave more information about my completely normal question about a name, and was a bit surprised why you attacked me for nothing, twice. But instantly figuring out you either have resistance or a bad day going, which are the two most likely culprits here for reactions WAY out of proportion at times for all of us.

I asked why he used AOSI instead of DMSI...that's it. That's why I got snark thrown at me twice. Looking at that, I know you are having a bad day or resistance as you never do that, as the reaction to a simple naming question to Shannon set you off this way for some reason.

I meant nothing by it...I asked why he used AOSI instead of DMSI.

So yeah, I am getting a completely unfair shake. But you saying you're having a bad day makes me understand why. I understand. Sorry you're having a bad day. It's all good, bro.

[Steven]

What if just by running a subliminal, you could cause the people you find sexually attractive to be unable to stop having pornographic sexual fantasies about you?

I'd much prefer if it wasn't only fantasizing!

The fantasizing is used as a way to get the affected to keep thinking about you, build interest and focus that interest in a sexual direction. It is not all that is being done or used to achieve action, to be sure, but a piece of the puzzle.

Yes Shannon, yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about! All the girls fantasizing about me and discussing my awesomeness with each other! Of course, doing their best to have sex w/me and be around me as well

That is an interesting thing I had not thought about... influencing a group of women who are all friends... wonder what will happen, since its currently designed to get them to all cooperate, or at least disregard that you're the target of all of their interest all at once...

@maxx55

Once again, another awesome idea from you! I'm almost jealous I didn't think of this first.

[maxx55]

I'd much prefer if it wasn't only fantasizing!

The fantasizing is used as a way to get the affected to keep thinking about you, build interest and focus that interest in a sexual direction. It is not all that is being done or used to achieve action, to be sure, but a piece of the puzzle.

Yes Shannon, yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about! All the girls fantasizing about me and discussing my awesomeness with each other! Of course, doing their best to have sex w/me and be around me as well

That is an interesting thing I had not thought about... influencing a group of women who are all friends... wonder what will happen, since its currently designed to get them to all cooperate, or at least disregard that you're the target of all of their interest all at once...

@maxx55

Once again, another awesome idea from you! I'm almost jealous I didn't think of this first.

I didn't even think I was giving an idea. That's just literally what I interpreted from what Shannon said! But glad I could help.

[Illumi]

I'd much prefer if it wasn't only fantasizing!

The fantasizing is used as a way to get the affected to keep thinking about you, build interest and focus that interest in a sexual direction. It is not all that is being done or used to achieve action, to be sure, but a piece of the puzzle.

Yes Shannon, yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about! All the girls fantasizing about me and discussing my awesomeness with each other! Of course, doing their best to have sex w/me and be around me as well

That is an interesting thing I had not thought about... influencing a group of women who are all friends... wonder what will happen, since its currently designed to get them to all cooperate, or at least disregard that you're the target of all of their interest all at once...

@maxx55

Once again, another awesome idea from you! I'm almost jealous I didn't think of this first.

How about making them compete on which one gets you first or just take turns
As long as they do NOT shove the ugliest one on you or decide just one of them will get you. Sharing is caring.

[Zeroxmachina]

It is aimed at being similar in effect to Allo-THDOC and others, in effect a subliminal result like that of the "reset" pheromone(s). It's aimed at triggering the affected brain to decide that their previous classification of you is in error, and change it to "must **** - NOW."

#3 aims to cause them to perceive you as being their ideal sexual choice and higher value than they are in terms of status.
#4 aims to add to #3 by getting them to perceive you as being everything they want and need sexually, and in a sexual partner.
And #5, which I have not started working on, will be aimed at causing a "celebrity" level status enhancement, and causing them to see it as being "no big deal" to approach because there is already a familiarity and level of comfort present that would result from having already had amazing sex with the user, and being comfortable with approaching and initiating, regardless of the stunning nature of their status and good looks. This one is going to be very hard to pull off because it is sort of a self contradiction, but I will try.

1) So we have the TAC effect and now the Allo-THDOC effect. Can you put in the 3ß-Androstanediol effect(s) too? (I think that was the secret ingredient in the raved about and legendary A314 versions.)

One step at a time, my friend. I'm working on it.

2) I think you also mentioned that there was a classification of "must **** - NOW and FOREVER". Is that still in there?

In the wording that won the modeling runs. Maybe not exactly like that...

3) In terms of the aims being contradictory, it seems to me women (and even many people) live in an inner world of contradictions so I would expect you could pull this off.

We are certainly going to try.

4) Seems all these aims are consistent with a woman being sexually motivated. Higher value than themselves in status. Everything they want and need sexually and as a sexual partner. Familiarity. Comfort. And the celebrity status (which I'm guessing includes feelings of awe and admiration). I know logically this may appear as contradictions, but I think sex has a logic of it's own, and I think this all fits well together.

I may have to adjust some of that to be polymorphic in the future to keep it truly gender unspecified in user base, but we will take it as it comes.

Besides I don't think a woman is going to say "Hey! Wait a minute! Why do I think of this guy like my favorite celebrity yet it just feels so natural and normal?" Even if she does wonder, I think she'll be "too busy wanting to hold on to and enjoy the feelings and reinforcing those feelings to effectively maintain them". But then again, perhaps that should be added too just to be safe.

The reactions I am triggering are below the threshhold of consciousness at first, and they are not coming through the neo-cortex. The parts of the rain processing these are not capable of logic. That's why you say "sex has a logic of it's own". What you're saying is that women (and men probably are too) are in large part irrational when it comes to sex.

I haven't heard anyone suggest this(forgive me if I've missed it), but is it possible to put some sort of 'don't attract women who might become obsessed and try to kill us if we no longer want them' coding? All this stuff is awesome, but usually repeated sex leads to some sort of psychological/emotional/spiritual attachment,possibly even relationships, and women would probably see you as the 'best thing ever' if this thing is working at max potential.

Any way to weed out the crazy ones so they aren't going insane if we gotta part ways?

[SargeMaximus]

It is aimed at being similar in effect to Allo-THDOC and others, in effect a subliminal result like that of the "reset" pheromone(s). It's aimed at triggering the affected brain to decide that their previous classification of you is in error, and change it to "must **** - NOW."

#3 aims to cause them to perceive you as being their ideal sexual choice and higher value than they are in terms of status.
#4 aims to add to #3 by getting them to perceive you as being everything they want and need sexually, and in a sexual partner.
And #5, which I have not started working on, will be aimed at causing a "celebrity" level status enhancement, and causing them to see it as being "no big deal" to approach because there is already a familiarity and level of comfort present that would result from having already had amazing sex with the user, and being comfortable with approaching and initiating, regardless of the stunning nature of their status and good looks. This one is going to be very hard to pull off because it is sort of a self contradiction, but I will try.

1) So we have the TAC effect and now the Allo-THDOC effect. Can you put in the 3ß-Androstanediol effect(s) too? (I think that was the secret ingredient in the raved about and legendary A314 versions.)

One step at a time, my friend. I'm working on it.

2) I think you also mentioned that there was a classification of "must **** - NOW and FOREVER". Is that still in there?

In the wording that won the modeling runs. Maybe not exactly like that...

3) In terms of the aims being contradictory, it seems to me women (and even many people) live in an inner world of contradictions so I would expect you could pull this off.

We are certainly going to try.

4) Seems all these aims are consistent with a woman being sexually motivated. Higher value than themselves in status. Everything they want and need sexually and as a sexual partner. Familiarity. Comfort. And the celebrity status (which I'm guessing includes feelings of awe and admiration). I know logically this may appear as contradictions, but I think sex has a logic of it's own, and I think this all fits well together.

I may have to adjust some of that to be polymorphic in the future to keep it truly gender unspecified in user base, but we will take it as it comes.

Besides I don't think a woman is going to say "Hey! Wait a minute! Why do I think of this guy like my favorite celebrity yet it just feels so natural and normal?" Even if she does wonder, I think she'll be "too busy wanting to hold on to and enjoy the feelings and reinforcing those feelings to effectively maintain them". But then again, perhaps that should be added too just to be safe.

The reactions I am triggering are below the threshhold of consciousness at first, and they are not coming through the neo-cortex. The parts of the rain processing these are not capable of logic. That's why you say "sex has a logic of it's own". What you're saying is that women (and men probably are too) are in large part irrational when it comes to sex.

I haven't heard anyone suggest this(forgive me if I've missed it), but is it possible to put some sort of 'don't attract women who might become obsessed and try to kill us if we no longer want them' coding? All this stuff is awesome, but usually repeated sex leads to some sort of psychological/emotional/spiritual attachment,possibly even relationships, and women would probably see you as the 'best thing ever' if this thing is working at max potential.

Any way to weed out the crazy ones so they aren't going insane if we gotta part ways?

Maybe have something in the programming that makes any ":ending of things" by the user viewed as "temporary" by the girl where she believes eventually you'll get back together but is willing to wait for the user's interest, while gently testing things here and there (like a single text every few months or something).