Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon, reading about your plans on V3, about improving how attractive she perceives you. Are you taking into account how to counter any possible cognitive dissonance that the girl might experience between what she is feeling about you and what you objectively look like??

I ask this because im using 2.4, getting attention from all kinds of women. But from the very attractive ones i get a lot of first looks, and then when they look at me a second time they kind of go 'bleh false alarm he is not a super hot guy', in other words i cannot hold them interested for long. So lots of deer in healight looks, but also afterwards a lot of dismissal/shyness/closed off etc

Im currently very far away from my personal best shape, underweight and kinda weak looking because of health problems, but slowly getting better and training again and getting more in shape and gaining some weight.

Cognitive dissonance is of course being taken into consideration. We are actually trying to cause them to experience you through all of their senses as being what we are telling them you are. So it is actually attempting to change how attractive you LOOK to them. If you speak, it attempts to get them to perceive your voice as being a fitting SOUND. If you kiss, they will adjust how you TASTE to be whatever matches the perceived shift in attractiveness for them. Same thing for their interpretation of TOUCH, and how you SMELL.

This completely neutralizes any and all cognitive dissonance from the senses. We also have in place programming to make you act in ways that are fitting, as well.

[maxx55]

What if just by running a subliminal, you could cause the people you find sexually attractive to be unable to stop having pornographic sexual fantasies about you?

I'd much prefer if it wasn't only fantasizing!

The fantasizing is used as a way to get the affected to keep thinking about you, build interest and focus that interest in a sexual direction. It is not all that is being done or used to achieve action, to be sure, but a piece of the puzzle.

Yes Shannon, yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about! All the girls fantasizing about me and discussing my awesomeness with each other! Of course, doing their best to have sex w/me and be around me as well

[Shannon]

What if just by running a subliminal, you could cause the people you find sexually attractive to be unable to stop having pornographic sexual fantasies about you?

I'd much prefer if it wasn't only fantasizing!

The fantasizing is used as a way to get the affected to keep thinking about you, build interest and focus that interest in a sexual direction. It is not all that is being done or used to achieve action, to be sure, but a piece of the puzzle.

Yes Shannon, yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about! All the girls fantasizing about me and discussing my awesomeness with each other! Of course, doing their best to have sex w/me and be around me as well

That is an interesting thing I had not thought about... influencing a group of women who are all friends... wonder what will happen, since its currently designed to get them to all cooperate, or at least disregard that you're the target of all of their interest all at once...

[Bookstacks DC737]

Shannon, I've realized that the antidepressants I was on were 100% the cause of my lack of results on DMSI.

I was experiencing some good results when I began Antidepressants, then as my body became adjusted the results just absolutely stopped, but I continued to listen.

My question is:

did my brain/unconscious continue processing the subliminal while medicated? so now that I'm off medication I have 90+ days of DMSI under my belt?
Or is it that all that time listening to DMSI, but unable to execute the script means that I'm kind of back to square one?

I'm more careful about journaling these changes because glossing over what's happening is a great way of thinking too much about it and blocking results, as well as self-censoring.

The subliminal is working very well though and I've even found it helpful in combatting AD withdrawal.[/b]

[Shannon]

Shannon, I've realized that the antidepressants I was on were 100% the cause of my lack of results on DMSI.

I was experiencing some good results when I began Antidepressants, then as my body became adjusted the results just absolutely stopped, but I continued to listen.

My question is:

did my brain/unconscious continue processing the subliminal while medicated? so now that I'm off medication I have 90+ days of DMSI under my belt?
Or is it that all that time listening to DMSI, but unable to execute the script means that I'm kind of back to square one?

I'm more careful about journaling these changes because glossing over what's happening is a great way of thinking too much about it and blocking results, as well as self-censoring.

The subliminal is working very well though and I've even found it helpful in combatting AD withdrawal.[/b]

Yes, it continued processing it, but the medication likely was physically shutting down the efforts of your body to do anything. Interfering. It may have also been interfered with itself by DMSI.

DMSI is designed to optimize your brain chemistry and activity for achieving the goals of the program. You're not going to be achieving them if you're depressed, so it may have a positive effect in that direction for that reason.

[Shannon]

I'd much prefer if it wasn't only fantasizing!

The fantasizing is used as a way to get the affected to keep thinking about you, build interest and focus that interest in a sexual direction. It is not all that is being done or used to achieve action, to be sure, but a piece of the puzzle.

Yes Shannon, yes! This is exactly what I'm talking about! All the girls fantasizing about me and discussing my awesomeness with each other! Of course, doing their best to have sex w/me and be around me as well

That is an interesting thing I had not thought about... influencing a group of women who are all friends... wonder what will happen, since its currently designed to get them to all cooperate, or at least disregard that you're the target of all of their interest all at once...

How would this translate for a female user, influencing a group of male friends?

Well... how do groups of guys respond when they are all interested in the same woman, but somehow it isn't quite a competition? We don't know what the female respondents would do with any more specificity.

[Shannon]

The goal is to make it possible for all of them to have a chance at sex with you. It may be individually, it may be as a group, that's up to them. But what we're trying to accomplish is having ALL of them get their fair share of sex with you.

[Shannon]

Seriously, if we are going to dream big... why not go right to the top? Let's see what we can squeeze out of reality. What is possible? I'd bet it's a LOT more than any of us thought. Let's find out.

[Darkness]

Good girls gotta fuck too

[RTBoss]

7. I'm a bit confused by this recent use of the AOSI term in your posts when the program was renamed DMSI awhile ago. I was just surprised to see that name again and didn't understand what was going on, even the term "AOSI tuning" I'm not familiar with.

"A" stands for "aura," which is the energetic field responsible for communicating a lot of information to other people, so I assume he's tuning the aura programming. Still an aura non-believer?

You misunderstood me, maybe reading too far into my words too.

All I wanted to know is why he is using the AOSI term again. That confused me, and with talks of him making spin-off programs I wanted to understand this.

I'm not sure I did, but whatever you say, dude. Seems Shannon's response was inline with my own - the last part, well, that's something I added, as I remember you saying as much in the past. But whatevs!

[ffaux]

Shannon if I've got about a month and a half before I start AM6 again am I better off having a longer break or running stage 7 until x weeks before I start (how many weeks?). I don't feel like I've fully accepted AM6, will stage 7 be detrimental? How does stage 7 compare to stage 6? It seems like stage 6 is meant to be close to the full script from the FAQ?

Stage 7 will never be detrimental to use; the issue is that until you've laid the ground work, it will be overwhelming for most people. That's why we still have stages 1 through 6. If I could just build and publish Stage 7, well hell, everyone would be happier. But humans don't grow in binary results.

Stage 6 is a final push on some of the last concepts to be worked on, it adds a "glossy varnish coat", and it exalts the SM lead in material. Stage 7 is effectively Stages 1 through 6 all in one stage. Big difference.

Stage 7 is intended to be either a way to force march your growth after you have finished stages 1 through 6, but are not "there" yet (which most people find they can't handle the intensity of), or a way to refresh stages 1 through 6 once they have gotten "there".

So the question is... do you want to do a 30 mile forced march, or just wait a while and do 5 mile marches at a time?

How will I judge whether I can handle the intensity or whether it's too much? I have a tendency to push myself to harm myself before accepting that something is doing me harm.

[Shannon]

Shannon if I've got about a month and a half before I start AM6 again am I better off having a longer break or running stage 7 until x weeks before I start (how many weeks?). I don't feel like I've fully accepted AM6, will stage 7 be detrimental? How does stage 7 compare to stage 6? It seems like stage 6 is meant to be close to the full script from the FAQ?

Stage 7 will never be detrimental to use; the issue is that until you've laid the ground work, it will be overwhelming for most people. That's why we still have stages 1 through 6. If I could just build and publish Stage 7, well hell, everyone would be happier. But humans don't grow in binary results.

Stage 6 is a final push on some of the last concepts to be worked on, it adds a "glossy varnish coat", and it exalts the SM lead in material. Stage 7 is effectively Stages 1 through 6 all in one stage. Big difference.

Stage 7 is intended to be either a way to force march your growth after you have finished stages 1 through 6, but are not "there" yet (which most people find they can't handle the intensity of), or a way to refresh stages 1 through 6 once they have gotten "there".

So the question is... do you want to do a 30 mile forced march, or just wait a while and do 5 mile marches at a time?

How will I judge whether I can handle the intensity or whether it's too much? I have a tendency to push myself to harm myself before accepting that something is doing me harm.

If you have any doubts, then don't do it. Otherwise, the only way to know is try it and see. But I hardly think you would come to harm.

[Illumi]

Shannon, is it possible for a girl to recognize you as an ascendant alpha? What happens when she does?

Yes.

She will almost always decide she wants to be part of your inner circle - whether that is as a friend, lover, relational partner, etc. Depends on how your personalities mesh, and what you allow her to do.

It is also possible that she becomes a dedicated opponent, but that's rare, and typically only happens with insecure control freaks who are afraid of you for not being someone they can control.

That happened with a girl in my class. She complained about me twice and people just assumed she was right. She is very very hot and is always surronded by 3 or more orbiters. Since i have my own life and friends she was challenged or something.
Thank god she layed off me now.

[Shannon]

Shannon, is it possible for a girl to recognize you as an ascendant alpha? What happens when she does?

Yes.

She will almost always decide she wants to be part of your inner circle - whether that is as a friend, lover, relational partner, etc. Depends on how your personalities mesh, and what you allow her to do.

It is also possible that she becomes a dedicated opponent, but that's rare, and typically only happens with insecure control freaks who are afraid of you for not being someone they can control.

That happened with a girl in my class. She complained about me twice and people just assumed she was right. She is very very hot and is always surronded by 3 or more orbiters. Since i have my own life and friends she was challenged or something.
Thank god she layed off me now.

People automatically believe females. The hotter they are, the more emphasis is placed on it. When I was in HS, I tried to help a really ugly girl with her depression by befriending her. She decided she wanted me to take her virginity, and when I would not, she told everyone that I had tried and failed because I was a lousy lover. The truth was, I was a damned virgin. But nobody even bothered to ask if what she said was true. Even my own friends automatically believed her story. Which was completely false.