Shannon's Journal Discussion

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Shannon i need your help. I want to buy a friend a sub to help her with her depression. I know you always advise a therapy from a professional. And that is something that she is doing . She gets medicines and since feels much better. It is also no grave case of depression with suicidal thoughts or so. My friend want to ask permission of her doctor if she can use a subliminal to help her. And i sugessted that i first ask you what sub in the list of products you have will fit most. I do not know yet many details about my friend, i just know that she sometime can not sleep easily. Under medication she feels quite normal. Would you suggest any sub to help her with her depression? Of course along her professional therapy. And can she use a sub even if her doctor advise her against it? You know what most doctors think of subliminals!!!!!! Your gum/dental infection last month and the wonder MIR has done for you can hardly be believed by a doctor unfortunately. Thank you

[Shawn]

When do you think AM7 will be built by to the approximate year?

Look here: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...#pid121269

[Shannon]

Shannon I read from somewhere that you talked about one particular resistant type of personality. The one that doesn't like to be told what to do. This is actually one of the reasons why I can't stand having a job and an employer. I think it was one of the older posts, what are your thought about that now? Will 6g be more effective dealing with that?

I'm asking because 5.5g seems to be more effective than the past programs I have used, so I have a feeling that you have changed something to make it harder to resist for people who can't stand being told what to do.

I'm one of those people.

Normally, I turn off all subliminals while doing my daily mental alchemy rituals, but a few days ago, I left AM6 (ultrasonic) running by accident.

There's a particular ritual that allows me to (and I'll explain this the best way I can), detach from my surroundings and direct my focus inward. From there, I'll monitor and observe my internal chatter and write down the more questionable lines. Imagine having a directional microphone and pointing it directly at your internal voice.

I kept "hearing" and writing down this anomalous thought -- it "sounded" like someone screaming in the distance. Tortured. Very painful. And it kept repeating the same thing over: "No, I won't do it." As I began to focus on that "voice," I became angrier and angrier until I was absolutely enraged. And suddenly, I realized what was going on. Hopped up, turned off AM6. The voice didn't go away immediately -- my guess is that the sub was still processing. However, about 5-6 hours later, I began to feel euphoric. Voice was gone.

Further tests yielded the following results: Ultrasonic exposure leads to anger / rage based resistance. Pissed off at the world. Wanna put my hand through a wall. Masked resistance is of the depressive kind. Down and out. No self-confidence.

I will say this: In my AOSI / DMSI tests, even on ultrasonic, I never experienced any anger / rage based resistance. Just depressive -- which, in my opinion, is my subconscious throwing up signs of fear rather than just stonewalling the sub.

Ultrasonic is louder, deals with shallower levels of subconscious awareness. Masked is lower in volume, and affects deeper levels of subconscious awareness.

RAGE is where you're angry, indignant and motivated to resist. In your case, you taking it as being shouted at what to do. Depression stems from feelings of hopelessness to resist. It doesn't want to cooperate, but is unable to resist, and it knows it. Conscious depression is the last line of defense before change is inevitable.

Can you expand on that? I haven't really found an in depth comparison and explanation of how ultrasonic and masked differ or the benefits of using either.

I currently use earphones with masked during sleep (8-9h) and then a few hours of ultrasonic during the day from speakers. A lot of the the time I am depressed and apathetic to some degree. That makes doing anything besides indulging in video games and movies very challenging, even reading.

When I first started using subs (ASC), I remember that I ran ultrasonic on earphones. That seemed to give the fastest results, but with a cost. Tinnitus.

To be specific, if you set the volume to X and play an ultrasonic track, the subliminal audio will be at X volume. But if you play a masked track, the subliminal audio will be at ((Mask - subliminalizing difference) +/- variance of mask volume).

The higher the volume of a subliminal, the closer it comes subconsciously to affecting the conscious mind directly. Conversely, the quieter it is, the further it gets from affecting the conscious mind directly. This is why you may get better results from ultrasonic or from masked, even though they are using the exact same script.

The consciousness of a person is a range, not an absolute. The conscious mind fades into dominance at approximately X and above, and the subconscious mind fades into dominance at approximately X and below. The subconscious awareness has different levels of awareness also, and they are not separated absolutely, but also fade into one another. It's akin to a rainbow having the colors fade into their neighbors.

The quieter the subliminal, the further the awareness range must be able to detect to notice and decode it. The deeper we go, the wider the range of awareness we encounter.

Conversely, the louder we go, the less range of awareness we need to have to detect it, and so less deep subconscious levels become able to detect it. The closer one gets to interacting with the conscious awareness, the more directly a thing can be accomplished, and therefore, with cooperation, becomes faster, easier and more obvious; likewise, without cooperation, becomes easier to resist.

The deeper levels of subconscious awareness are less able to comprehend things as goes the conscious mind, so they will accept something as being true and execute it more readily, because they don't have the same ability to resist - although they can still resist, just in different ways. The further down we go, the more likely we are to achieve acceptance.

At the same time, the further down we go, the more subtle the response will be to conscious awareness in the "now", because the quieter it is, the less urgency and need for action is being communicated. Also, the subconscious mind perceives time differently than the conscious mind, which affects the response: deeper and deeper levels of awareness directly perceive time not only less and less, but more and more as a smear instead of a distinct "point of now". So when you go down deeply enough, that part of your awareness may be reacting at some time in the future, as time is perceived by the conscious awareness. The conscious awareness does not perceive time as a smear, and so for some period of time for the conscious mind, there appears to be no reaction.

Inversely, the closer we get to the conscious mind, the less time is perceived as a smear and more as a "point of now" phenomenon. The result is that once acceptance and execution begins, it begins within the range of what that level of awareness perceives as the "now", which may be seconds or minutes of time as compared to the conscious mind.

[Shannon]

Shannon i need your help. I want to buy a friend a sub to help her with her depression. I know you always advise a therapy from a professional. And that is something that she is doing . She gets medicines and since feels much better. It is also no grave case of depression with suicidal thoughts or so. My friend want to ask permission of her doctor if she can use a subliminal to help her. And i sugessted that i first ask you what sub in the list of products you have will fit most. I do not know yet many details about my friend, i just know that she sometime can not sleep easily. Under medication she feels quite normal. Would you suggest any sub to help her with her depression? Of course along her professional therapy. And can she use a sub even if her doctor advise her against it? You know what most doctors think of subliminals!!!!!! Your gum/dental infection last month and the wonder MIR has done for you can hardly be believed by a doctor unfortunately. Thank you

Once she is getting therapy and medication from the appropriate professional, she can consider using a subliminal to help.

I cannot advise your friend to use a subliminal if her doctor advises against it. The law recognizes doctors as being highly trained in their area of specialty, and therefore limits anyone outside that area of specialty from potentially infringing on it, both for the safety of the general public, and the safety of the income of those who do go through formal training and licensing procedures.

What I can say is that most doctors are not going to be familiar with subliminals, and those who are, probably are operating on erroneous or out of date information. She will have to decide for herself what she wishes to do if her doctor advises against it.

If she were to use a subliminal for depression, I would say that EHPRA 2.0 is the best choice for working oneself past whatever growth and healing is necessary to overcome depression. I cannot recommend or advise against it's use with antidepressants because I do not know how the program's effects will interact with or affect the effects the antidepressant has on her. It is out of my area of knowledge.

If she does use a subliminal like EHPRA 2.0 for helping her overcome depression, and she is using an antidepressant, I would advise close supervision by a doctor who knows what she is doing, and understands what EHPRA 2.0 is doing.

I would also suggest that should she choose to use the EHPRA 2.0 with antidepressant drugs, that she first spend time getting to be familiar with how the antidepressant drugs affect her, and then start with 1 loop per day of EHPRA 2.0 and spend at least a week using it at that level to observe how the program's effects interact with and affect the effects of the antidepressant drugs. Furthermore, if she observed anything at all that hinted at it causing any sort of problem, side effect, or depression to use both at once, I would advise that she stop using the subliminal and focus on whatever her doctors direct her to do instead.

Should she choose to choose to use the EHPRA 2.0 with antidepressant drugs, and should she find that she can use EHPRA 2.0 at 1 loop per day for a week without interfering with whatever the antidepressant drugs are doing for her, that she might try to move up to 2 loops per day of EHPRA 2.0 for a week, and see how she does with that.

But under no circumstances can I advise her to do anything other than what her doctor tells her to do. I am not a doctor, so any advice a licensed medical or psychological professional gives her is going to override anything I say about this.

[Shannon]

@ Shannon

Hey man, I’ve got a couple of questions if you wouldn’t mind answering them when you get the chance please.

When do you think AM7 will be built by to the approximate year?

Answered.

Do demonic dreams have any significance in the way of actual negative entities being vanquished?

That's not something I can answer here.

What is the major difference going to be between 5.5 and 6 gen?

5.5G is a series of small steps to 6G. Each program adds in a handful more 6G technologies.

[Dilettante]

Hey Ben, can we make this thread a sticky so it doesn't get buried? This is pretty much the main conduit to Shannon now.

Thanks.

[Natious]

Shannon I read from somewhere that you talked about one particular resistant type of personality. The one that doesn't like to be told what to do. This is actually one of the reasons why I can't stand having a job and an employer. I think it was one of the older posts, what are your thought about that now? Will 6g be more effective dealing with that?

I'm asking because 5.5g seems to be more effective than the past programs I have used, so I have a feeling that you have changed something to make it harder to resist for people who can't stand being told what to do.

I'm one of those people.

Normally, I turn off all subliminals while doing my daily mental alchemy rituals, but a few days ago, I left AM6 (ultrasonic) running by accident.

There's a particular ritual that allows me to (and I'll explain this the best way I can), detach from my surroundings and direct my focus inward. From there, I'll monitor and observe my internal chatter and write down the more questionable lines. Imagine having a directional microphone and pointing it directly at your internal voice.

I kept "hearing" and writing down this anomalous thought -- it "sounded" like someone screaming in the distance. Tortured. Very painful. And it kept repeating the same thing over: "No, I won't do it." As I began to focus on that "voice," I became angrier and angrier until I was absolutely enraged. And suddenly, I realized what was going on. Hopped up, turned off AM6. The voice didn't go away immediately -- my guess is that the sub was still processing. However, about 5-6 hours later, I began to feel euphoric. Voice was gone.

Further tests yielded the following results: Ultrasonic exposure leads to anger / rage based resistance. Pissed off at the world. Wanna put my hand through a wall. Masked resistance is of the depressive kind. Down and out. No self-confidence.

I will say this: In my AOSI / DMSI tests, even on ultrasonic, I never experienced any anger / rage based resistance. Just depressive -- which, in my opinion, is my subconscious throwing up signs of fear rather than just stonewalling the sub.

Ultrasonic is louder, deals with shallower levels of subconscious awareness. Masked is lower in volume, and affects deeper levels of subconscious awareness.

RAGE is where you're angry, indignant and motivated to resist. In your case, you taking it as being shouted at what to do. Depression stems from feelings of hopelessness to resist. It doesn't want to cooperate, but is unable to resist, and it knows it. Conscious depression is the last line of defense before change is inevitable.

Can you expand on that? I haven't really found an in depth comparison and explanation of how ultrasonic and masked differ or the benefits of using either.

I currently use earphones with masked during sleep (8-9h) and then a few hours of ultrasonic during the day from speakers. A lot of the the time I am depressed and apathetic to some degree. That makes doing anything besides indulging in video games and movies very challenging, even reading.

When I first started using subs (ASC), I remember that I ran ultrasonic on earphones. That seemed to give the fastest results, but with a cost. Tinnitus.

To be specific, if you set the volume to X and play an ultrasonic track, the subliminal audio will be at X volume. But if you play a masked track, the subliminal audio will be at ((Mask - subliminalizing difference) +/- variance of mask volume).

The higher the volume of a subliminal, the closer it comes subconsciously to affecting the conscious mind directly. Conversely, the quieter it is, the further it gets from affecting the conscious mind directly. This is why you may get better results from ultrasonic or from masked, even though they are using the exact same script.

The consciousness of a person is a range, not an absolute. The conscious mind fades into dominance at approximately X and above, and the subconscious mind fades into dominance at approximately X and below. The subconscious awareness has different levels of awareness also, and they are not separated absolutely, but also fade into one another. It's akin to a rainbow having the colors fade into their neighbors.

The quieter the subliminal, the further the awareness range must be able to detect to notice and decode it. The deeper we go, the wider the range of awareness we encounter.

Conversely, the louder we go, the less range of awareness we need to have to detect it, and so less deep subconscious levels become able to detect it. The closer one gets to interacting with the conscious awareness, the more directly a thing can be accomplished, and therefore, with cooperation, becomes faster, easier and more obvious; likewise, without cooperation, becomes easier to resist.

The deeper levels of subconscious awareness are less able to comprehend things as goes the conscious mind, so they will accept something as being true and execute it more readily, because they don't have the same ability to resist - although they can still resist, just in different ways. The further down we go, the more likely we are to achieve acceptance.

At the same time, the further down we go, the more subtle the response will be to conscious awareness in the "now", because the quieter it is, the less urgency and need for action is being communicated. Also, the subconscious mind perceives time differently than the conscious mind, which affects the response: deeper and deeper levels of awareness directly perceive time not only less and less, but more and more as a smear instead of a distinct "point of now". So when you go down deeply enough, that part of your awareness may be reacting at some time in the future, as time is perceived by the conscious awareness. The conscious awareness does not perceive time as a smear, and so for some period of time for the conscious mind, there appears to be no reaction.

Inversely, the closer we get to the conscious mind, the less time is perceived as a smear and more as a "point of now" phenomenon. The result is that once acceptance and execution begins, it begins within the range of what that level of awareness perceives as the "now", which may be seconds or minutes of time as compared to the conscious mind.

That clears up a lot! Thanks for the detailed answer, will need to reread it tomorrow when I'm not so tired.

[Shannon]

Yes, not exactly simple stuff we are dealing with here.

[chaosvrgn]

About MLS 5G. So, is it nerfed and not working at all, or are people just expecting too much? I'm planning on taking the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test and would love to use MLS to study for and ace it. If 5G is useless, is 4G still available?

[rayrocanaldo]

Shannon,

is it really true that the imagination can give you anything you want or are there limits ? How long does it take to manifest something using the imagination ?

[Shannon]

Gravity, your post is pushing it on rule 4, so best to remove it. But, you can see that E2 goes at your pave where E1 tries to force march you. E2 is much better for success because of this.

To answer your question without breaking Rule 4, you chose to experience what you are experiencing. It is the impetus for how you are learning and growing. If you're having issues with deservedness, keep going on E2.

Chaos, MLS 5G isn't nerfed, it's just underperforming for most people. Generally we don't carry two generations of the same program.

[Shannon]

Shannon,

is it really true that the imagination can give you anything you want or are there limits ? How long does it take to manifest something using the imagination ?

Ray, you want a black and white answer to a shades of gray question.

You live in an extraordinarily complex system of reality, and so there is no binary answer. Yes, it is true that imagination is part of achieving whatever you want. Yes, it is true that there are limits. You can't, for example, imagine the sun going supernova and make it happen. You also can't just use your imagination and do nothing else. We have already been through this.

How long it takes depends on whether or not you're doing it correctly and how much energy you input.

[chaosvrgn]

Destroy the Sun with Your Imagination 8G. I dig it. I'd cop it.

[Shannon]

Destroy the Sun with Your Imagination 8G. I dig it. I'd cop it.

Only 12G and higher can cause this. Sorry. It'll be $982,000,000,000,000.01 a copy, delivered after I transport my ass to another solar system far far away. lol