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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - wolverine_i_am - 01-03-2019
Great news! Love the new idea!
It makes sense though. I mean FRM 4.3 is made, but we're still testing 4.1. I'm excited for the faster updates.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Mystic Pymp - 01-03-2019
Wow, incredible news @Shannon!
Will we need to take breaks between new minor versions, like we need to do between new major versions?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Have at ye - 01-03-2019
Liking the idea of releasing updated FRMs instead of H&C for DMSI. Though H&C will still definitely have its place and use (for healing and clearing, obviously!), testing new iterations of FRM does indeed sound like the best and fastest way to move forward with its development, as well as the best and fastest way forward for users of programs which include it.
4.1 (that's what's in DMSI 3.3D currently, correct?) is very powerful, seems to be working quite rapidly, and also appears to have made a great step forward in the "fear gets removed, fear *stays* removed" department, but also seems to result in resistance attempts by the subC, which still does not really seem to be liking the very idea of touching that scary, scary stuff which rests at the primal level, or has a lot of ego-investment behind it - but which can, I believe, be overridden in the program's current state through either willpower or consistent use with no quarter given (as to me, the carrot seems to be greater than the stick, heh).
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - AlphaRomeo - 01-03-2019
EDIT: Since I can´t delete the post. I was asking about the possible need of break between updated FRM versions of DMSI, but Mystic Pymp was faster. I assume no need for break since it would not make sense to wait (at least not)35 days every 2-3 months (if the versions gets released that often).
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Have at ye - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 08:20 AM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: Shannon,
With releasing new FRM in DMSI 3.3.1-D, do we have to wait 35 days between that and DMSI 3.3-D? I planned to start DMSI on next monday, but if the versions requires (35 days)break between then I wait for the new release. Since you mentioned that you would be updating FRM in DMSI every 2-3 months, I assume no breaks are necessary between versions because it would not make sense to wait 35 days every 2-3 months if one were to test each version.
I remember people switching between the new iterations of USLMaxx with improvements to the FRM "on the go" without much in the way of turbulence between them. The differences made by the updates were making themselves apparent quite swiftly, too.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - ichigo - 01-03-2019
Will DMSI 3.3D v2 now be released before LTU 5.5G?
Will LTU have FRM 4.3?
Would you consider free/paid updates to the FRM for LTU in future to increase the amount of data you receive, as I think DMSI and LTU will be the 2 most popular subs?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - RTBoss - 01-03-2019
I think it's a good idea. I'm a little disappointed at the same time, b/c being an emotionally-driven person, H&C always helped me quite a bit - especially on the anger and irritability front - and right now my tendency to overreact w/ anger is still on the rise. I always thought the combination of H&C w/ FRM would be the end-all-be-all. Perhaps after a few months, we'll get a chance to see that in action. :
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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 08:06 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: Wow, incredible news @Shannon!
Will we need to take breaks between new minor versions, like we need to do between new major versions?
You technically should to be absolutely sure, but I don't think it's going to be necessary, and it will theoretically give greater contrast to FRM v4.1. I do not expect you guys to take a break between.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 08:27 AM)ichigo Wrote: Will DMSI 3.3D v2 now be released before LTU 5.5G?
It will be version 3.3.1-D. It will be a matter of waiting until I am not sick, and then building an already completed script, which should take about a day or two. As to which gets done first, that is for the winds to say, as I am not slowing down on work on LTU.
Quote:Will LTU have FRM 4.3?
Unless there is something more advanced I can put in it by that time... yes.
Quote:Would you consider free/paid updates to the FRM for LTU in future to increase the amount of data you receive, as I think DMSI and LTU will be the 2 most popular subs?
LTU 5.5G will probably have FRM 4.3 in it, and that should be very close to the final version. It will be upgraded once again in 6G, and that will be it.
DMSI is already a free upgrade, so there is no point on that one.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 08:57 AM)RTBoss Wrote: I think it's a good idea. I'm a little disappointed at the same time, b/c being an emotionally-driven person, H&C always helped me quite a bit - especially on the anger and irritability front - and right now my tendency to overreact w/ anger is still on the rise. I always thought the combination of H&C w/ FRM would be the end-all-be-all. Perhaps after a few months, we'll get a chance to see that in action. :
I have run it through the models recently to see which of the following options produces the best results for DMSI:
1. No H&C, no FRM
2. H&C, No FRM
3. FRM, no H&C
4. H&C and FRM
The clear, hands down winner? Option #3. As I suspected.
That can only mean that when FRM is finished, it not only kills fear, it prevents the need for H&C.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Choice - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 07:31 AM)Shannon Wrote:(01-03-2019, 12:57 AM)dweller94 Wrote: I've identified a block that runs deeper than fear well for me anyway, my lack of success is to do with the fact that women reduce my overall happiness. I've noticed that if anything remotely threatens my peace of mind, like when you're in a relationship or dating you start thinking about stuff and it can destroy you depending on your attachment, DMSI so far doesn't seem to have helped get rid of this but I've identified the block, it's simple hoes make me unhappy, whether it's because I'm overthinking shit or I'm trying to see if there's more. If only I genuinely was care free and women wouldn't bring me down my life would be great and full of them, this is why DMSI isn't doing its thing for me (design goal) it's working alright but don't want to say much rn.
Point 1. This is not something that runs deeper than fear. It is fear. You fear that "women will reduce my overall happiness".
Point 2. Identifying that block is part of FRM working on that fear.
Point 3. All females != "hoes". If "hoes" bring you down then find a woman worth having, or at least having sex with.
Based on what you're saying here, you have concluded that "all women are hoes who will make me unhappy", which is definitely a false belief based in faulty logic, which generates FEAR.
And by getting you to the point that you were able to identify that FEAR consciously, FRM IS doing it's thing. Keep going.
Taking this example, if we remove the fear, wouldn't the faulty belief still remain, thus creating the fear again at some point? If we are going forward with FRM & no H&C how will this faulty belief be dealt with? As an analogue, the fear is the tree, but the roots are the beliefs that remain which means the tree (fear) will keep growing after cutting it down.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 11:16 AM)Choice Wrote:(01-03-2019, 07:31 AM)Shannon Wrote:(01-03-2019, 12:57 AM)dweller94 Wrote: I've identified a block that runs deeper than fear well for me anyway, my lack of success is to do with the fact that women reduce my overall happiness. I've noticed that if anything remotely threatens my peace of mind, like when you're in a relationship or dating you start thinking about stuff and it can destroy you depending on your attachment, DMSI so far doesn't seem to have helped get rid of this but I've identified the block, it's simple hoes make me unhappy, whether it's because I'm overthinking shit or I'm trying to see if there's more. If only I genuinely was care free and women wouldn't bring me down my life would be great and full of them, this is why DMSI isn't doing its thing for me (design goal) it's working alright but don't want to say much rn.
Point 1. This is not something that runs deeper than fear. It is fear. You fear that "women will reduce my overall happiness".
Point 2. Identifying that block is part of FRM working on that fear.
Point 3. All females != "hoes". If "hoes" bring you down then find a woman worth having, or at least having sex with.
Based on what you're saying here, you have concluded that "all women are hoes who will make me unhappy", which is definitely a false belief based in faulty logic, which generates FEAR.
And by getting you to the point that you were able to identify that FEAR consciously, FRM IS doing it's thing. Keep going.
Taking this example, if we remove the fear, wouldn't the faulty belief still remain, thus creating the fear again at some point? If we are going forward with FRM & no H&C how will this faulty belief be dealt with? As an analogue, the fear is the tree, but the roots are the beliefs that remain which means the tree (fear) will keep growing after cutting it down.
What causes fear runs deeper than beliefs. When we remove the fear, the beliefs that interact with the cause of the fear to create fear (when it is triggeted by beliefs) are automatically adjusted by the removal of the underlying cause of the fear. If the tree is fear, then FRM results in the tree and all of its roots, branches, twigs, leaves, flowers and fruit evaporating. Ceasing to exist.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 01-03-2019
Shannon, will there ever be a 'remove all fears' sub? Thanks
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - THolt - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 11:52 AM)Oversoul Wrote: Shannon, will there ever be a 'remove all fears' sub? Thanks
There will probably be an OF 5.5G or 6G.