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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Sterling - 12-28-2018

(12-28-2018, 12:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-28-2018, 11:03 AM)Sterling Wrote: Hi Shannon. I have some update and concerns about USLM3.

I have been listening to it for about two months now.

1. Ultra Success: it does give me motivation to succeed. I am rearing to go, go, go for my goals! :-)

2. Luck Maximizer: I have been having a string of bad luck since listening to it: car accident that lead to total loss, disagreements with close friends, computer virus that lead to loss of work files that set me back a month of work, sick, food poisoning, people are being more negative towards me; basically feeling like one step forward and several steps backwards.

It feels like US is taking me one step forward while LM is taking me several steps backwards.

In the first week of listening, LM worked for that one week moment however thereafter for 1 month and 3 weeks it's been not working or possibly causing the opposite of good luck.

@Shannon, what is going on? Why isn't USLM3 working for me? What's causing this string of bad luck? Is something missing from USLM3 to protect me from this odd situation of one step forward but several steps backward progress? Please let me know because it's been a frustrating two months or so. How do I break this string of bad luck that's been going on for two months every single week practically?

Thanks.

The only way that is possible is if you are experiencing subconscious reversal resistance to that part of the script. It is also - by what you describe - probable that some of it has nothing to do with LM. Apparently some part of you is extremely afraid of "good luck", and is seeking to reverse the instructions. This violates multiple parts of the ASS/ART, and right now I do not know how that is possible or what to do about it, shy of upgrading the FRM.

Everything to prevent that is already included in the script.

The only thing I can suggest is:

1. Try adjusting your usage patterns. What format you are using can have a big impact on how effective it is. Same with volume. Too high can trigger resistance. Too low may allow the subconscious to successfully evade execution.
2. Seek out why you are apparently terrified of "good luck" on a subconscious level.
3. Consider using USLM4. I don't want to make you think I'm trying to up-sell, because I'm not, but it will be more advanced and have upgrades that may solve the problem. While this may help, I have no idea why you are able to violate the sections of ASS/ART script that are designed to prevent this, so there is no guarantee that USLM4 will solve the issue.

If I were in your shoes, I might also try using it during the opposite time as you are now; awake if you are currently using it asleep, asleep if you are currently using it awake.

And if nothing else works, try these:

1. Start using it for a large number of loops per day. This will eventually become exhausting, but it should also push you past resistance if the volume and format are correct. I found that listening for 5 loops at night and then all day too allowed me to force success, but over the course of about a week, I became too exhausted to run the program.
2. Stop using it and allow it to bloom. In some cases this stops resistance because there is nothing left to "resist", as in "being told what to do".

Thank you for responding back. I will try those suggestions you have mention above. I really need something to work in my favor instead of what I've been getting lately. Maybe USLM4, LTU, or USM.

I do hope one day there will be just one sub that can can help make life flow in all areas of life: lots more money, amazing love, sexual attraction, great sex, ayp, quality friends, accomplish goals, good health, etc...

Thanks


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Greenduck - 12-28-2018

(12-27-2018, 03:28 AM)Greenduck Wrote:
(12-27-2018, 03:04 AM)Paul1131 Wrote:
(12-26-2018, 08:20 PM)Greenduck Wrote: Merry Christmas,

I was thinking about if DMSI would open up the opportunity for you to have a threesome with your friend and his girlfriend - that saying that you are attracted to her of course. Would that be possible? To handle the experience smoothly is up to the user, but that DMSI could open up both parties to the possibility, by reducing the jealousy the guy would feel towards you, and creating a desire to have his women shared with you. There are probably a lot of guys out there who wouldn't pass on a shot with their buddies girlfriends, and this would make it possible to be a win-win Wink

I would think that the more you crank up your sex appeal, the more jealousy the other dude is likely to experience. Unless it also makes him attracted to you. Each their own I guess.

Yeah, but I was thinking that you add something that make him not feel threatened by you in his relationship with the girl, and at the same time inclined towards the experience because of the thrill of it or something like that. And also maybe you can share your sex-appeal to him by your presence to further diminish the jealousy component.

My question above probably fell away, so I’ll put post it here again.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Paul1131 - 12-28-2018

(12-28-2018, 11:03 AM)Sterling Wrote: Hi Shannon. I have some update and concerns about USLM3.

I have been listening to it for about two months now.

1. Ultra Success: it does give me motivation to succeed. I am rearing to go, go, go for my goals! :-)

2. Luck Maximizer: I have been having a string of bad luck since listening to it: car accident that lead to total loss, disagreements with close friends, computer virus that lead to loss of work files that set me back a month of work, sick, food poisoning, people are being more negative towards me; basically feeling like one step forward and several steps backwards.

It feels like US is taking me one step forward while LM is taking me several steps backwards.

In the first week of listening, LM worked for that one week moment however thereafter for 1 month and 3 weeks it's been not working or possibly causing the opposite of good luck.

@Shannon, what is going on? Why isn't USLM3 working for me? What's causing this string of bad luck? Is something missing from USLM3 to protect me from this odd situation of one step forward but several steps backward progress? Please let me know because it's been a frustrating two months or so. How do I break this string of bad luck that's been going on for two months every single week practically?

Thanks.


This might seem like an odd question, but are you SURE you’re actually having bad luck? I had a number of incidents where something happened that at first seemed to be an incident of horrible luck, but something else always happened (some of it quite unlikely) that allowed me to avoid or at least mitigate the damage. I came to the conclusion that the strokes of bad luck were going to happen no matter what for whatever reason, but the opportunities to save the situations were manifestations of USLM.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - robstar - 12-28-2018

(12-17-2018, 01:58 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 01:50 PM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 10:45 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 10:16 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-16-2018, 10:56 PM)robstar Wrote: Hey Shannon. I know you've stated long range sniper is not in 3.3, which is disappointing. However if one was to potentially use conscious visualisation based sexual energy remote seduction/manifestation towards specific women, would the dmsi aura and energy possibly aid that?

If it will aid in doing that, it's already happening. And if not, no, it will not. The person to be affected must match the targeting pattern.

And I'll say it again, for the millionth time, targeting specific people is a bad move.

Then why on 3.2 I became obsessed over this girl E? And when she passively rejected me, the pain was only on 3.2 and it wouldn't leave me (my journal has it all). But when I was on MLS, I barely thought about her.

Now, on 3.3 a girl from my gym is on my mind. Then what should I do if I can't target her specifically?

Shannon, this is from DMSI description page: "be aware that it is designed to get you to sexually seduce everyone you want to have sex with."

And you are saying targeting specific people is a bad move. Don't you think these two are conflicting? If not, why?

Quote:Then why on 3.2 I became obsessed over this girl E? And when she passively rejected me, the pain was only on 3.2 and it wouldn't leave me (my journal has it all). But when I was on MLS, I barely thought about her.

There is nothing in DMSI that causes obsession. You'll have to look at other things to explain that.

MLS focuses you on learning, not sex.

Quote:Now, on 3.3 a girl from my gym is on my mind. Then what should I do if I can't target her specifically?

Focusing on a specific person is fine as long as you are not using manifestation methods to influence them. That crosses the line into taking away their freedom of choice, and it is a bad choice of actions for that reason.

Quote:Shannon, this is from DMSI description page: "be aware that it is designed to get you to sexually seduce everyone you want to have sex with."

And you are saying targeting specific people is a bad move. Don't you think these two are conflicting? If not, why?

I am talking about using manifestation and other techniques that take away their free will. Not "I'm attracted to her, so I'll focus my interest on her while I'm on DMSI.

By this logic, wouldn't any seduction at all which is designed to evoke a feeling of attraction from a woman be removing their free will? Wouldn't dmsi itself which is designed to use your sexual aura to create attraction in women who otherwise would not be attracted be removing their free will? I fail to see how having a specific target would be any different to general targets that are affected by your aura.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 12-28-2018

I reckon that anything that forces attraction is an infringement upon free will. If the target has zero natural attraction to you, then it is very likely an infringement of her free will.

Whereas, if she already has a natural attraction to you, then things like DMSI, sexy aura, AYP/MYP, general manifestation (with no specific target), etc. would be okay.

I’m just guessing here. Shannon, or someone else with a lot of manifestation / ‘law of attraction’ experience, should be able to explain it accurately.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Zane - 12-28-2018

It's a good thing that you can't attract "Dead Women", no matter how much loa/aura or subliminal you use.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - josh84 - 12-28-2018

Hi Shannon, ive done 3 cycles on hybrid with headphones, and havent had any changes apart from maybe libido increase but that can also be caused by other factors too.

Should i stay on hybrid or try masked as last time gave masked again could easily fap that i wasnt doing on high volume hybrid but i can also easily do that at -41db hybrid volume too now, only time i didnt was at high volume on hybrid but you mentioned at that high volume the effectiveness of the sub wouldnt be very good?

Any suggestions or stay with what im doing a while longer see if anything happens.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - DarkTempatation - 12-29-2018

@Shannon I wish Shannon releases LTU 5.5G out for new years day, that'll be a fantastic start to the new year! That's all I'm waiting for Big Grin


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - AstonMartin - 12-29-2018

(12-29-2018, 04:27 AM)DarkTempatation Wrote: @Shannon I wish Shannon releases LTU 5.5G out for new years day, that'll be a fantastic start to the new year! That's all I'm waiting for Big Grin

If it will not overload my mind like MLS, then I will definitely want to try LTU. Good description, good design goals.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - RTBoss - 12-29-2018

(12-28-2018, 09:28 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: I reckon that anything that forces attraction is an infringement upon free will. If the target has zero natural attraction to you, then it is very likely an infringement of her free will.

Whereas, if she already has a natural attraction to you, then things like DMSI, sexy aura, AYP/MYP, general manifestation (with no specific target), etc. would be okay.

I’m just guessing here. Shannon, or someone else with a lot of manifestation / ‘law of attraction’ experience, should be able to explain it accurately.

There's nothing about DMSI that "forces" attraction. It's a set of instructions that causes you to focus energy in specific ways that makes you more sexually attractive. To me, it's no different than going to the gym and developing a muscular frame to increase your attraction to women (though I realize that hasn't worked for you, Enki).

We're fortunate to have subs as a tool, and these tools give us an edge. Some guys get women with money, some with athleticism, some with intelligence, some with smooth talk and romance, or a combination of anything that increases their apparent value. Regardless, we're the small percentage that have the open mind to seek out the tools to advance ourselves in a way that others don't (subs). To me, if that leads me to enhance my aura, personal development, whatever - to be more attractive than everyone else in the room - that's my edge, and it's no different than anyone else who develops themselves in ways to edge out the competition. If a woman (or man) sees that as something she wants to be a part of, that's their choice.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Ryu - 12-29-2018

How is the progress on LTU Shannon?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-29-2018

(12-28-2018, 08:28 PM)robstar Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 01:58 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 01:50 PM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 10:45 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote:
(12-17-2018, 10:16 AM)Shannon Wrote: If it will aid in doing that, it's already happening. And if not, no, it will not. The person to be affected must match the targeting pattern.

And I'll say it again, for the millionth time, targeting specific people is a bad move.

Then why on 3.2 I became obsessed over this girl E? And when she passively rejected me, the pain was only on 3.2 and it wouldn't leave me (my journal has it all). But when I was on MLS, I barely thought about her.

Now, on 3.3 a girl from my gym is on my mind. Then what should I do if I can't target her specifically?

Shannon, this is from DMSI description page: "be aware that it is designed to get you to sexually seduce everyone you want to have sex with."

And you are saying targeting specific people is a bad move. Don't you think these two are conflicting? If not, why?

Quote:Then why on 3.2 I became obsessed over this girl E? And when she passively rejected me, the pain was only on 3.2 and it wouldn't leave me (my journal has it all). But when I was on MLS, I barely thought about her.

There is nothing in DMSI that causes obsession. You'll have to look at other things to explain that.

MLS focuses you on learning, not sex.

Quote:Now, on 3.3 a girl from my gym is on my mind. Then what should I do if I can't target her specifically?

Focusing on a specific person is fine as long as you are not using manifestation methods to influence them. That crosses the line into taking away their freedom of choice, and it is a bad choice of actions for that reason.

Quote:Shannon, this is from DMSI description page: "be aware that it is designed to get you to sexually seduce everyone you want to have sex with."

And you are saying targeting specific people is a bad move. Don't you think these two are conflicting? If not, why?

I am talking about using manifestation and other techniques that take away their free will. Not "I'm attracted to her, so I'll focus my interest on her while I'm on DMSI.

By this logic, wouldn't any seduction at all which is designed to evoke a feeling of attraction from a woman be removing their free will? Wouldn't dmsi itself which is designed to use your sexual aura to create attraction in women who otherwise would not be attracted be removing their free will? I fail to see how having a specific target would be any different to general targets that are affected by your aura.

Do you really think it would have taken this much work to make DMSI work if I was not trying to preserve free will on the part of both the user and the affected?

There is a big difference between influencing someone and taking away their ability to choose for themselves. One is persuasion, and one is coercion. We want to persuade, which gives them the choice of what to do. We do not want to coerce, which does not.

When a woman puts on makeup, is she forcing you to find her more sexually attractive? No. When she puts on a perfume with the intent of becoming more sexually attractive, is she forcing you? No. When she wears a sexy dress, is she forcing you? No. She is trying to use her charms to persuade and influence. But you still have free will, even if your animal brain is responding on instinct, and you can still choose to refuse her sex.

If she and her friends hold you down and force you to have sex with them, or get you drunk and take advantage of you when you can't physically stop them, that's taking away free will.

DMSI does nothing to take away free will. But by carelessly using manifestation (and it can be done intentionally as well) it is relatively easy to take away someone's free will. Manifesting a relationship or a specific outcome with a specific person forces that to happen, regardless of what they would have chosen had they had a say in the matter, and can go so far as to control their mind and emotions to result in that outcome.

If you use manifestation to achieve an outcome of having sex with a hot redheaded server you know from your favorite lunch restaurant, when you know that she would not have chosen to do that on her own, you are taking away her free will to make her own choice. If she would have done it anyway, you wouldn't need to use manifestation. Any time you use manifestation to achieve a specific outcome with a specific person, you are taking away their free will to make their own choice in the matter. The consequences of such an action are severe, and I can attest to that from having made that mistake myself, before I knew what I was doing with this stuff.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-29-2018

(12-28-2018, 11:31 PM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, ive done 3 cycles on hybrid with headphones, and havent had any changes apart from maybe libido increase but that can also be caused by other factors too.

Should i stay on hybrid or try masked as last time gave masked again could easily fap that i wasnt doing on high volume hybrid but i can also easily do that at -41db hybrid volume too now, only time i didnt was at high volume on hybrid but you mentioned at that high volume the effectiveness of the sub wouldnt be very good?

Any suggestions or stay with what im doing a while longer see if anything happens.

I suggest you try hybrid, and play it at -40 dB for a cycle and see what happens.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-29-2018

(12-29-2018, 04:27 AM)DarkTempatation Wrote: @Shannon I wish Shannon releases LTU 5.5G out for new years day, that'll be a fantastic start to the new year! That's all I'm waiting for Big Grin

That is extremely unlikely, given the complexity of "sewing" these scripts together to make them all work as one.