(11-24-2018, 09:45 AM)Ryu Wrote: @Shannon
All these things is part of the skeleton script, nice.
Does uslm also have these enhancement ?

self esteem, self respect, sense of self worth, self liking, self love, self validation, deservingness, self support, self confidence, self image, is part of the skeleton script.?

(11-24-2018, 10:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-24-2018, 09:45 AM)Ryu Wrote: @Shannon
All these things is part of the skeleton script, nice.
Does uslm also have these enhancement ?

self esteem, self respect, sense of self worth, self liking, self love, self validation, deservingness, self support, self confidence, self image, is part of the skeleton script.?

They are part of the skeleton script. Except for special situations, that means it goes in everything built from the skeleton script.

(11-24-2018, 10:55 AM)AlphaRomeo Wrote:

(11-24-2018, 10:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-24-2018, 09:45 AM)Ryu Wrote: @Shannon
All these things is part of the skeleton script, nice.
Does uslm also have these enhancement ?

self esteem, self respect, sense of self worth, self liking, self love, self validation, deservingness, self support, self confidence, self image, is part of the skeleton script.?

They are part of the skeleton script. Except for special situations, that means it goes in everything built from the skeleton script.

I´m curious, since when these has been the part of the skeleton script? Since 5g? 5.5g? Since which program..? DMSI, which version..? Since..."now"?

(11-24-2018, 12:07 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-24-2018, 10:55 AM)AlphaRomeo Wrote:

(11-24-2018, 10:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-24-2018, 09:45 AM)Ryu Wrote: @Shannon
All these things is part of the skeleton script, nice.
Does uslm also have these enhancement ?

self esteem, self respect, sense of self worth, self liking, self love, self validation, deservingness, self support, self confidence, self image, is part of the skeleton script.?

They are part of the skeleton script. Except for special situations, that means it goes in everything built from the skeleton script.

I´m curious, since when these has been the part of the skeleton script? Since 5g? 5.5g? Since which program..? DMSI, which version..? Since..."now"?

That has been the case for around the last 2 years now. I believe it was something like DMSI v2.3/4/5.

(11-23-2018, 05:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 01:45 PM)Smuggler Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 08:12 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 01:33 PM)Smuggler Wrote: Wondering if you can help here Shannon. Last Tuesday night I listened to USLM 3. On Wednesday I got a call about a job i've been trying to apply for. It sounds amazing and is a good opportunity for me. The recruiter said they've already got a team in place (New site opening) but could do with someone of my skills. I sent my CV at 11pm that night. Had a phone call on Thursday morning, arranged an interview for today.

In the meantime, it appears my relationship has gone to absolute shit and is pretty much over, it will take a miracle for me to bring this back. Now she said something interesting, telling me how she felt from Wednesday(the day after I first listened) had changed, it's more or less spiralled the whole week. My 2 days off were Sunday and Monday, I haven't listened again, I don't think I will. Is it possible that this is some kind of resistance effect of the sub? Is there anything I can do to halt/reverse it for now?

Also, I had the interview today. I turned up 30 minutes late, still impressed them enough and was offered the job on the spot.

So you started getting results, and then things lot a little challenging, and you're giving up because of it? I'd say that's all the evidence you need that you NEED that FRM. Keep going.

The first week is the hardest. On the first break, I was fighting with my girlfriend constantly, or trying desperately not to. Then the second week, we are very smooth and things are looking way up.

Keep going. You can't expect to get the results if you run away from the process because it's not always comfortable. Tap out now and all you have to show for it is, "Fear won, and I lost."

Keep going. You may be surprised at how things turn out if you do, I think.

You want to halt it? FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED.

Thanks for the advice, I listened again to USLM3 today. The relationship is now fully over as far as she is concerned. I'm now blocked on everything and am not going to be seeing her around physically at her request.
Does USLM have any potential in reversing this situation? Can I focus attention on it somehow?

There is always the potential, but my question is, why do you want that so much? Think about it. I know that ending a relationship is painful, but what makes you want it back? What is driving that pain? Is it fear? Is it desperation? Is it neediness? Or is it being heartbroken? I can't answer that for you, but if you answer it for yourself - and do so honestly - you will benefit.

You can use USLM3 to help you get back that relationship, if that were your conscious goal, but I don't know how long it would take or how well it would work.

Also consider the reason for this breakup. You said she told you she felt like something had changed and she didn't like it. Is that your subconscious trying to get you to quit by sabotaging this? Is that he sensing you being significantly afraid and being turned off? Maybe she is afraid that if you have no fears you won't want her anymore. There are a million possible reasons, and unless she articulates them to you in your own language (manspeak), it's unlikely you will figure it out. Emotions are irrational and illogical by nature.

I suggest that you accept what is for now, and let FRM work on you for a few weeks while you heal and deal with some of these fears. Then consider what you want to do with regards to her.

(11-24-2018, 12:50 PM)Smuggler Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 05:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-23-2018, 01:45 PM)Smuggler Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 08:12 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 01:33 PM)Smuggler Wrote: Wondering if you can help here Shannon. Last Tuesday night I listened to USLM 3. On Wednesday I got a call about a job i've been trying to apply for. It sounds amazing and is a good opportunity for me. The recruiter said they've already got a team in place (New site opening) but could do with someone of my skills. I sent my CV at 11pm that night. Had a phone call on Thursday morning, arranged an interview for today.

In the meantime, it appears my relationship has gone to absolute shit and is pretty much over, it will take a miracle for me to bring this back. Now she said something interesting, telling me how she felt from Wednesday(the day after I first listened) had changed, it's more or less spiralled the whole week. My 2 days off were Sunday and Monday, I haven't listened again, I don't think I will. Is it possible that this is some kind of resistance effect of the sub? Is there anything I can do to halt/reverse it for now?

Also, I had the interview today. I turned up 30 minutes late, still impressed them enough and was offered the job on the spot.

So you started getting results, and then things lot a little challenging, and you're giving up because of it? I'd say that's all the evidence you need that you NEED that FRM. Keep going.

The first week is the hardest. On the first break, I was fighting with my girlfriend constantly, or trying desperately not to. Then the second week, we are very smooth and things are looking way up.

Keep going. You can't expect to get the results if you run away from the process because it's not always comfortable. Tap out now and all you have to show for it is, "Fear won, and I lost."

Keep going. You may be surprised at how things turn out if you do, I think.

You want to halt it? FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED.

Thanks for the advice, I listened again to USLM3 today. The relationship is now fully over as far as she is concerned. I'm now blocked on everything and am not going to be seeing her around physically at her request.
Does USLM have any potential in reversing this situation? Can I focus attention on it somehow?

There is always the potential, but my question is, why do you want that so much? Think about it. I know that ending a relationship is painful, but what makes you want it back? What is driving that pain? Is it fear? Is it desperation? Is it neediness? Or is it being heartbroken? I can't answer that for you, but if you answer it for yourself - and do so honestly - you will benefit.

You can use USLM3 to help you get back that relationship, if that were your conscious goal, but I don't know how long it would take or how well it would work.

Also consider the reason for this breakup. You said she told you she felt like something had changed and she didn't like it. Is that your subconscious trying to get you to quit by sabotaging this? Is that he sensing you being significantly afraid and being turned off? Maybe she is afraid that if you have no fears you won't want her anymore. There are a million possible reasons, and unless she articulates them to you in your own language (manspeak), it's unlikely you will figure it out. Emotions are irrational and illogical by nature.

I suggest that you accept what is for now, and let FRM work on you for a few weeks while you heal and deal with some of these fears. Then consider what you want to do with regards to her.

Thanks for the advice Shannon, I have continued on with listening to USLM anyway. I still don't know what i'm doing or where I am, I feel lost at the moment as a person, obviously the breakup doesn't help anything but I won't dwell on that too much for the forum's sake, i'm 32 years old I can generally cope with it, i've been through several in my lifetime like many of us.

But something else happened to me today, it may be due to just how i'm feeling, or is down to USLM and the FRM module. I had what I feel was an anxiety attack at 12pm today and i've never suffered from any type of anxiety/panic attacks before. It came over me all of a sudden, I felt dizzy, claustrophobic, suffocated, extremely restless, down and had some dark dark thoughts that I NEVER thought I would have. I got into a bit of a panic because i'd never experienced such a thing and had no idea if it would end. It lasted 60-90 minutes and only calmed down once I got out of the house. I can't say what the underlying thought was that brought it on. Will FRM cause this kind of response to come out in me?

(11-23-2018, 02:30 PM)MasterEnki Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 03:38 PM)Shawn Wrote:

(11-22-2018, 02:39 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: What happens if she buys you dinner / drinks, and/or pays YOU to have sex with her?

And how often does it happens that she pays for everything included your transportation costs and so on? I mean in comparison to the opposite?

Globally, it is around 1% - 2% of women that pay for literally everything (according to what I’ve read).

My last 2 dates paid for everything, except transport. It was the same woman for both dates. Transport was like $2 (two bucks!) via bus (I met her locally at the venue).

I’m aware that this is likely a rare scenario though.


As for paying for sex / ‘sex work’... I am 100% okay with people exchanging money for sex, in a consensual arrangement (which is what the typical escort / prostitution situation is).

Personally, I would NOT pay / hire an escort for myself, unless as a last resort (meaning, if I have zero sex for the next few years, then I will consider escorts an option, IF I can afford it at the time).


Shannon makes a good point, that all dating costs resources (time or energy or money, etc).

Personally, I have a huge problem with men having to pay financially for her (in regular dating / non-prostitution situations). Mostly because I’m stuck in the vicious cycle of poverty / debt.



If I was a millionaire I would likely be happy to pay for everything. But my current financial circumstances prevents that, so I’m screening women out who expect men to pay financially, since I can’t afford it.

Time / energy is a much better option for me, in terms of ‘payment’, since I have a bit of time on weekends, and plenty of energy. But zero disposal income.

Someone else, who is rich / well off, would consider paying money to an escort to be ‘more cost effective’ than the time / energy of dating.

Another quick point, if she (non-prostitute) orders highly expensive things on the date (and expects the man to pay for it all), then an escort could possibly be financially cheaper (cost less money), as well as less time / energy.

(11-24-2018, 02:37 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: Shannon is it possible we're starting to feel the effects of the anti-fear mod in dmsi?
Although it has been a while since i've stopped using it on break till the next version defently the last few days been noticing i've had the courage or lack of fear to do and say thing to people before i had always shy'd away from. Dancer girl and singer girl had been taking me for granted and making me less of a priory in things, even more so since i've been on break and after bloom wore off. Before we'd have a fight or something and i'd try to fix things up with her this time was different i felt less fear about walking away from both her and my other singer friend that wants to keep bothering me all the time, just start over and get something better. It is something i had wanted or thought about doing never felt strong enough really to go the way through it. Unsure were all that came from all of a sudden

(11-24-2018, 02:17 PM)lano1106 Wrote: That is very interesting discussion.

What turns off women is a man that pays/gives with expectation to receive something (like sex) in exchange.

If she deserves something and you give it with no return expectations and it isn't something big anyway like paying the coffee during a coffee date, well go for it...

Finally, I think it is wrong to reduce sex to only a financial decision. For me, if the service of an escort was only a dime. I would still not be interested in it... What I like is the whole seduction process... Pretty much unsatisfying like for a fisherman to go eat fish in a restaurant...

(11-25-2018, 10:34 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote: Quick question at Shannon or anyone else that can answer, I've been researching the contents of USLM3 and saw where it has ASS/ART (6G tech). I tried to search the forum and the glossary but could not find what it does or what it is. Could anyone help?