(09-20-2018, 06:53 AM)Darkness Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 06:31 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 12:53 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 11:42 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 11:07 AM)Greenduck Wrote: The guys who blame it sounds like guys who blame stuff.

On the other hand the guys who want it sound like they are too fearful.

I have to agree here with Sarge, though I will be careful in the way I say this. This isn't meant as a flame (which obviously would break the rules) and I hope it isn't taken that way. I'm just going to point out a few things:

(1) I remember when it was announced that the AS wouldn't be in 3.2 and it seemed like some of the forums were upset saying this would be a bad decision. Well, 3.2 came out without the AS and nothing bad happened that I have recalled to the people who actually executed (I would include myself there when I went on my trip). If a woman started acting uppity I know for myself I would just break contact with her and move on to the next woman. Its not that hard to do. When you have the power in the relationship, higher value, and know you have an abundance of options its not that hard to leave someone really. As for STDs/HIV I think some here will remember that I gave a complete chard on the chances of condom breaking (Which you should be wearing one anyway) and you sleeping with someone who has STDs/HIV is very stupidly low and is the chance of them having a sexual disease is highly depended on how many sexual partners they have had in the past.

You can't know what the AS was or was not doing because we don't have sufficient execution to reveal that yet.

Quote:(2) My rational is in align with Catman's pretty much. Lets worry about actually having everyone execute first before we waste power on something we aren't even sure we even need. If Crazy women start becoming a problem (which I don't know why you can't deal with that in the first place) then we can consider using some power for that. As someone else mentioned I rather have the power spent on trying to get these other men not to get in physical fights with me and persuade them to become co-operative instead. That seems to be a bigger problem (which has been said in journals for quite a while now) then having to deal with crazy women and the low chances of encountering someone with a sexual disease. Did you know that the Prevalence rate of HIV/AIDs in the US, for example, is only .30% of the population. So chances of a condom breaking ( seen anywhere from 10-15%) and you having sex with a person from that group (only .30% of the population) is stupidly low. For Europe its mostly even lower.

The world is not the United States. AIDS is not the only dangerous STD.

Quote:(3) If It comes to a point where it becomes a problem I would like to add a nice suggestion , similar to what I suggested the last time this subject came up, why not have some kind of "Spider sense" as it were. Where the subconscious notices that there is something wrong with this woman and then communicates to your conscious that there is something wrong with this particular person. It could just be an intuitive feeling that something is wrong with the person for example. At that point the user has the option to proceed or reject the person at their leisure. Problem is solved without stepping on people's toes. Granted, I could see a issue with that suggest as well. What if the subconscious resists by giving false positives? Though that could be said of the AS being used by resistance (haven't experienced it myself but Catman could have it right on this point).

This works great, in theory., Then you have reality, where people do things like Sarge did, where they get horny, they stop thinking and they do things that they would not necessarily have done under rational thought. Most guys do that at least once in their lives, and it can result in some pretty nasty stuff. Sarge got very lucky. So Spidey Sense doesn't matter for shit if you're sufficiently hormonal and horny. That's why I didn't use that in the first place.

On the intuition tip, I disagree. On SM, when the intuition kicked in and said don’t trust her, I followed it and it was beforehand right on meeting her.

If so make the intuition senses so strong so loud that they can’t ever be ignored.

So the user is still universally massively attractive and has sharp instincts sexually.

(09-20-2018, 06:37 AM)josh84 Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 06:24 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 06:21 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, since i was stonewalling 3.2 and did the break like you mentioned and no bloom or tid effects, do you think your progress with beast will help get past my stonewalling your subs?

Is there any way i can consciously help get the subconscious to execute the script or its just a matter of our subconscious wanting to resist it so strongly nothing can be done to change it until you find ways to get past those stonewalling issues?

Beast is where I test new tech. The new tech being tested in B17 is very much intended to help people execute, primarily by getting them past fear. Stonewalling comes from fear, so if we can make the anti-fear modules work, then we should have execution. But the AF modules are very complex, and I need to understand how they are working in practice and if/what needs to be adjusted.

We've discussed several times that the way for the conscious to help generate execution is to do the following things:

1. Don't consciously resist. Some of you consciously resist simply because you want to see me fail, or "be right"/"prove you can't 'be controlled'" or "test how powerful my subliminals are". Which is ridiculous, since YOU PAID FOR THEM.
2. Communicate to your subconscious that you consciously and genuinely want to execute.
3. Try to understand and figure out what your subconscious is stuck on and why it is resisting, and help it understand why that is not/no longer a reason to resist.

In reference to point 1, i have no reason to want you to fail so clearly i want to execute the script otherwise why buy the product. If i could consciously make the script execute i would but thats not telling me how to actually do it though. Just saying dont consciously resist is great if we actually knew how to not resist the subliminal.

Quote:2. Any ideas on how to communicate to our subconscious since i dont know how to do that.

Quote:3. If i knew what i was stuck on to fix the issue i would, but with no dreams or anything i have no idea what im actually doing or thinking that stops the script executing.

(09-20-2018, 06:33 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 01:00 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Agree with DarkXedonias.

I even remember people harping on me for getting sexual with that herpes girl and yet I'm STD free. Not condoning my actions, rather pointing out that if you're careful you will be fine.


As for the fear of "drama". Come on guys, who here is an alpha male? If you consider yourself one then grow a spine and deal with the women as an alpha would. Alphas don't need anti-snipers.

That's like saying "real men don't need safeties on their BFG 9000's!" But I'll tell you, a "real man" has the wisdom to choose his safety and health over "being a real man" to some other guy. Maybe if you find yourself wishing there had been an anti-sniper you'll understand some day.

(09-20-2018, 06:47 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 06:45 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 06:19 PM)K-Train Wrote:
Dealing with "drama" when it comes to women is almost always inevitable and something you'll have to deal with accordingly especially if you're talking about dealing with multiple women which is what I assume most guys. Is it something that would be cool NOT to have to deal with and have supportive women around you akin to what @mat422 said? Absolutely. No doubt...after DMSI has proven it can accomplish it's goals first.

/\ This.

I know for a fact my subconscious (and my conscious, if I'm honest) uses that as a good reason to not execute. Who has time for women and their shit let's be honest. I know I sure don't. But a guy has to get laid, and have children someday (I do actually want children someday). So it comes with the territory.

Also, in terms of what Enki was saying "If only women were like..." he seems to be describing a GUY. GUYS are like that quite often, women are NOT it's just nature.

So Sarge, if you know and admit that you are consciously resisting... WHY USE THE DAMNED THING?!

(09-20-2018, 06:47 AM)Shannon Wrote:

Quote:Who has time for women and their shit let's be honest. I know I sure don't. But a guy has to get laid, and have children someday (I do actually want children someday). So it comes with the territory.

Please do us all a favor, Sarge. Don't reproduce until you outgrow this level of maturity. This is going to make for some seriously ***** up children, and we don't need more of those in this world.

(09-20-2018, 05:46 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:52 AM)Fluffy Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:04 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 03:36 AM)Fluffy Wrote: In my opinion, you only attract "fearful" situations when you are putting out fearful vibes. In other words if you are coming from a happy, healthy, positive place dominantly you wont actually attract these bad feeling situations to begin with.

You are what you put out. If you do attract these kinds of women that are not so good feeling then there must be something about you that is attracting them in the first place. Fear would do it, but also worrying about these things consistently or remembering past events and pushing against it happening again. It could also be not necessarily related to women but just a similar unwanted, negative bad feelings that bring more of that shit to you.

I think it is much more healthy and powerful to take responsibility for whatever you attract to you, as something that you have going on inside yourself.

Like attracts like, birds of a feather flock together.

As long as you know what you are putting out, you wont have to worry about attracting crazy chicks and what not because you wont even be a match anyway.

Crazy chicks that would cry rape and all this negative BS are on a much lower vibrational wave length and you would only attract that situation, if you was a match to that.

Externally nothing happens randomly, it all comes from within you.

There is nothing to fear, when you understand that the outside is a reflection of your inside. As you hold the power, as you are aware of what you have going on and you can change it as you are in control of yourself. Instead of thinking you are out of control and these random situations can happen at anytime and it has nothing to do with you and you are worried about it happening.

Your vibe attracts your tribe.

For the sake of the subliminal, yes I agree, lets see what it can do first without adding more limiters.

So this is why bad things never ever happen to good and happy people?

Oh wait...

Law of attraction and vibration resonance are so misunderstood that they're usually worthless when an individual tries to self apply them.

I'll stay out of the AS topic, but this is just bad information. "Vibrational level" has absolutely nothing to do with how a person interacts and gets on in life. There are "low" vibration individuals that are walking saints in life, and "high" vibration individuals that would be considered the scum of the earth by many.

How do you know the "low" vibration individual are Saints or are even low vibration? How do you know the high vibration individuals are high vibration? You do not know what is going on inside of them. You don't know what they are vibing and what does it matter what other peoples opinions of yourself or of others actually mean anything?
Are speaking about negative fear based views from media and the average population? Only matters what the individual thinks about their self or what you think about yourself.

An actual "high" vs "low" vibrational person has energetics characteristics that would separate them. Fear vs love is a helpful approach to a number of things, but negative does not equal fear, and positive does not equal love. That is making a mess of what those things really are. Itd be like saying positive is trees and negative is ducks. They do not correspond. That is incorrect information.

(09-20-2018, 06:28 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 08:37 AM)Broski Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 04:57 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-17-2018, 10:13 AM)Broski Wrote:

(09-17-2018, 07:39 AM)Shannon Wrote: So the first thing is to remember that no matter what suggestions I offer you, you can follow the instructions and be eligible for a refund, or you can disregard them and give that up. That is a choice you must be the one to make.

I recommend that you start analyzing your reactions to understand what is causing them, where they come from and what their origins are.

If you keep having negative thoughts come up, what are those thoughts specifically? Those thoughts are going to be like arrows fired from the cause of the resistance and fear: they will by their very nature point you back to what caused them.

What are they telling you? Why would you be having those thoughts and responses? Why are you afraid of success? Is it success you're afraid of, or something that will result from success? What do these things tell you about the underlying fears and causes of your reactions to this program?

WHY are you afraid of succeeding?

It would help me help you to know more specifically what your negative reactions are.

Alright I will try to do my best in answering these for you. The first major negative thought thats been coming up is fear of focusing on negative thoughts and emotions and bringing more of those things into my life. Then when I think those thoughts or feel those emotions is cause more fear and anxiety, which causes more fear and anxiety, ect ect. Quite the vicious cycle . Ever since I took a psychology class in high school and learned about the power of the mind and specifically this part covering how people that thought they were sick even though they weren't ended up making themselves sick, I have feared the mind and using it against myself, as dumb as. As dumb as it may sound to some, it is a VERY real fear to me and I have suffered greatly from it. I had some anxiety over this the following summer, but once I was back at school it didn't really come up for awhile. Fast forward a few years later and seeing something on tv triggered this fear in me again and I went into major anxiety and panic attacks over it for many months. I developed different chronic tensions and pressures in my body that took my focus off the mind and made me think I had some sort of physical condition wrong with me. I went to a plethora of different doctors and they couldn't find anything wrong, so im pretty sure the anxiety is what lead to it. I still see these tensions and pressure to this day many years later. I think this is my main fear I have been experiencing though with different variations of it, and has lead to most of the other negative thoughts, emotions and fear I've had during this time. Some other negative recurring thoughts have been fear of going insane, and fear of losing control. Why I am having them in response to the program is maybe because the success oriented programming triggers them, like the fears are popping up saying "We cant think positively and successfully with all this deep rooted fear surrounding this issue" Maybe i'm afraid of anything changing with my mind because I fear the power of it so. I don't know, I have consciously thought of different things like this before about the issue, but have never seemed to be able to fully get over it. Hope that helps

So basically you have a fear based feedback loop that you have focused on yourself, for infinite replay-ability. Congrats, you're afraid of yourself.

How many loops a day are you using USLM for?

I don't think there is a need to make fun of me/the situation. I am trying to be honest and open with you here and don't really appreciate that. It's not like I intentionally tried to create the situation and it hasn't exactly been pleasant. I have been doing 1 loop a day.

I apologize for the tone of the post, there was no insult or negativity intended. When I wrote that I was simply at my wit's end with how things have been going lately and I was about to lose it. I had to spend most of yesterday trying to come back from that state, in fact, so I could remain functional. So please don't take it as being sarcasm or nastiness, it wasn't.

Okay, so at one loop per day you're having an extreme fear response, and this is being triggered by your fears based on the psychology class you took. That is a complex issue right there.

Have you attempted more than 1 loop per day?

(09-20-2018, 09:50 AM)Hatman Wrote: Shannon, I just read your journal post. Could it be those fear removal modules kicking in? Obviously all the obstacles at work and your recent breakup put you in a different state of mind. You were then not afraid to express those thoughts, that were obviously altered by the recent events.

(09-20-2018, 09:08 AM)Fluffy Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 05:46 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:52 AM)Fluffy Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 04:04 AM)Nox Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 03:36 AM)Fluffy Wrote: In my opinion, you only attract "fearful" situations when you are putting out fearful vibes. In other words if you are coming from a happy, healthy, positive place dominantly you wont actually attract these bad feeling situations to begin with.

You are what you put out. If you do attract these kinds of women that are not so good feeling then there must be something about you that is attracting them in the first place. Fear would do it, but also worrying about these things consistently or remembering past events and pushing against it happening again. It could also be not necessarily related to women but just a similar unwanted, negative bad feelings that bring more of that shit to you.

I think it is much more healthy and powerful to take responsibility for whatever you attract to you, as something that you have going on inside yourself.

Like attracts like, birds of a feather flock together.

As long as you know what you are putting out, you wont have to worry about attracting crazy chicks and what not because you wont even be a match anyway.

Crazy chicks that would cry rape and all this negative BS are on a much lower vibrational wave length and you would only attract that situation, if you was a match to that.

Externally nothing happens randomly, it all comes from within you.

There is nothing to fear, when you understand that the outside is a reflection of your inside. As you hold the power, as you are aware of what you have going on and you can change it as you are in control of yourself. Instead of thinking you are out of control and these random situations can happen at anytime and it has nothing to do with you and you are worried about it happening.

Your vibe attracts your tribe.

For the sake of the subliminal, yes I agree, lets see what it can do first without adding more limiters.

So this is why bad things never ever happen to good and happy people?

Oh wait...

Law of attraction and vibration resonance are so misunderstood that they're usually worthless when an individual tries to self apply them.

I'll stay out of the AS topic, but this is just bad information. "Vibrational level" has absolutely nothing to do with how a person interacts and gets on in life. There are "low" vibration individuals that are walking saints in life, and "high" vibration individuals that would be considered the scum of the earth by many.

How do you know the "low" vibration individual are Saints or are even low vibration? How do you know the high vibration individuals are high vibration? You do not know what is going on inside of them. You don't know what they are vibing and what does it matter what other peoples opinions of yourself or of others actually mean anything?
Are speaking about negative fear based views from media and the average population? Only matters what the individual thinks about their self or what you think about yourself.

An actual "high" vs "low" vibrational person has energetics characteristics that would separate them. Fear vs love is a helpful approach to a number of things, but negative does not equal fear, and positive does not equal love. That is making a mess of what those things really are. Itd be like saying positive is trees and negative is ducks. They do not correspond. That is incorrect information.

I am glad you said this because if you actually look at the emotional guidance scale, you can see it is a bit more complex than just fear or love, positive or negative.



1. Joy/Appreciation/Empowered/Freedom/Love
2. Passion
3. Enthusiasm/Eagerness/Happiness
4. Positive Expectation/Belief
5. Optimism
6. Hopefulness
7. Contentment
8. Boredom
9. Pessimism
10. Frustration/Irritation/Impatience
11. Overwhelment
12. Disappointment
13. Doubt
14. Worry
15. Blame
16. Discouragement
17. Anger
18. Revenge
19. Hatred/Rage
20. Jealousy
21. Insecurity/Guilt/Unworthiness
22. Fear/Grief/Depression/Despair/Powerlessness

There is a mixed arranged of emotions and more than this. How you know what is positive or negative is that negative don't feel good and positive feels good.


" Itd be like saying positive is trees and negative is ducks. They do not correspond."

The reason it does not correspond is because you have chose a bad example. For one, it depends on who the person is and their belief systems about a Tree or a Duck.

A belief is a repeated thought. A belief is a dominant vibration. You can be vibrating at different levels on different subjects, same as you can have positive beliefs or limiting beliefs on different subjects.

If the person really loves Trees they would feel positive emotions about Trees but imagine the same person that had a mother that died from a Tree falling on her, (And she did not want this to happen) unless she has moved her thoughts, feelings, vibration, beliefs about the subject of Tree's into better feeling places, should would feel negative emotions about the subject of Tree, obviously emotions on the lower end of the scale. Same for every subject.

It is the beholder that determine if something is good feeling (Positive) or bad feeling (Negative), as everything is ultimately neutral but where your vibration is on that subject determines what you feel. As the reason why " When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."

This is all am saying as I feel like I will have to start charging otherwise lol, I also got more fun things to do tonight. You know where to look if you actually want to learn more about this stuff. If you don't that is totally cool too, just do whatever you enjoy.

(09-20-2018, 08:20 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 06:33 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 01:00 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Agree with DarkXedonias.

I even remember people harping on me for getting sexual with that herpes girl and yet I'm STD free. Not condoning my actions, rather pointing out that if you're careful you will be fine.


As for the fear of "drama". Come on guys, who here is an alpha male? If you consider yourself one then grow a spine and deal with the women as an alpha would. Alphas don't need anti-snipers.

That's like saying "real men don't need safeties on their BFG 9000's!" But I'll tell you, a "real man" has the wisdom to choose his safety and health over "being a real man" to some other guy. Maybe if you find yourself wishing there had been an anti-sniper you'll understand some day.

Maybe, but I'd much rather learn to ride a bike than spend a lifetime on training wheels.

(09-20-2018, 06:47 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 06:45 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 06:19 PM)K-Train Wrote:
Dealing with "drama" when it comes to women is almost always inevitable and something you'll have to deal with accordingly especially if you're talking about dealing with multiple women which is what I assume most guys. Is it something that would be cool NOT to have to deal with and have supportive women around you akin to what @mat422 said? Absolutely. No doubt...after DMSI has proven it can accomplish it's goals first.

/\ This.

I know for a fact my subconscious (and my conscious, if I'm honest) uses that as a good reason to not execute. Who has time for women and their shit let's be honest. I know I sure don't. But a guy has to get laid, and have children someday (I do actually want children someday). So it comes with the territory.

Also, in terms of what Enki was saying "If only women were like..." he seems to be describing a GUY. GUYS are like that quite often, women are NOT it's just nature.

So Sarge, if you know and admit that you are consciously resisting... WHY USE THE DAMNED THING?!

Quote:EDIT: Also, thanks to removing it in 3.2 I actually executed a helluva lot more. Which is why I hope you keep it out.

(09-20-2018, 06:47 AM)Shannon Wrote:

Quote:Who has time for women and their shit let's be honest. I know I sure don't. But a guy has to get laid, and have children someday (I do actually want children someday). So it comes with the territory.

Please do us all a favor, Sarge. Don't reproduce until you outgrow this level of maturity. This is going to make for some seriously ***** up children, and we don't need more of those in this world.

(09-20-2018, 09:48 AM)Broski Wrote:

(09-20-2018, 06:28 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 08:37 AM)Broski Wrote:

(09-19-2018, 04:57 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-17-2018, 10:13 AM)Broski Wrote: Alright I will try to do my best in answering these for you. The first major negative thought thats been coming up is fear of focusing on negative thoughts and emotions and bringing more of those things into my life. Then when I think those thoughts or feel those emotions is cause more fear and anxiety, which causes more fear and anxiety, ect ect. Quite the vicious cycle . Ever since I took a psychology class in high school and learned about the power of the mind and specifically this part covering how people that thought they were sick even though they weren't ended up making themselves sick, I have feared the mind and using it against myself, as dumb as. As dumb as it may sound to some, it is a VERY real fear to me and I have suffered greatly from it. I had some anxiety over this the following summer, but once I was back at school it didn't really come up for awhile. Fast forward a few years later and seeing something on tv triggered this fear in me again and I went into major anxiety and panic attacks over it for many months. I developed different chronic tensions and pressures in my body that took my focus off the mind and made me think I had some sort of physical condition wrong with me. I went to a plethora of different doctors and they couldn't find anything wrong, so im pretty sure the anxiety is what lead to it. I still see these tensions and pressure to this day many years later. I think this is my main fear I have been experiencing though with different variations of it, and has lead to most of the other negative thoughts, emotions and fear I've had during this time. Some other negative recurring thoughts have been fear of going insane, and fear of losing control. Why I am having them in response to the program is maybe because the success oriented programming triggers them, like the fears are popping up saying "We cant think positively and successfully with all this deep rooted fear surrounding this issue" Maybe i'm afraid of anything changing with my mind because I fear the power of it so. I don't know, I have consciously thought of different things like this before about the issue, but have never seemed to be able to fully get over it. Hope that helps

So basically you have a fear based feedback loop that you have focused on yourself, for infinite replay-ability. Congrats, you're afraid of yourself.

How many loops a day are you using USLM for?

I don't think there is a need to make fun of me/the situation. I am trying to be honest and open with you here and don't really appreciate that. It's not like I intentionally tried to create the situation and it hasn't exactly been pleasant. I have been doing 1 loop a day.

I apologize for the tone of the post, there was no insult or negativity intended. When I wrote that I was simply at my wit's end with how things have been going lately and I was about to lose it. I had to spend most of yesterday trying to come back from that state, in fact, so I could remain functional. So please don't take it as being sarcasm or nastiness, it wasn't.

Okay, so at one loop per day you're having an extreme fear response, and this is being triggered by your fears based on the psychology class you took. That is a complex issue right there.

Have you attempted more than 1 loop per day?

It is okay Shannon. I appreciate the apology. I hope everything going on with you turns around soon and you start feeling better. I THINK it is from psychology class that is at least my best guess. I don;t know though if something might have happened earlier in my life also that caused me to react in the way i did to it. I have been only doing one loop because I see myself as a "control freak" type and figured more would NOT be better in that case. The weird thing is this fear really started popping up strongly again the day BEFORE I started running US/LM. Could that be TID resistance?

(09-20-2018, 09:50 AM)Hatman Wrote: Shannon, I just read your journal post. Could it be those fear removal modules kicking in? Obviously all the obstacles at work and your recent breakup put you in a different state of mind. You were then not afraid to express those thoughts, that were obviously altered by the recent events.

(09-20-2018, 12:09 PM)ichigo Wrote: Hey Shannon, do you know if we’ll get dmsi 3.3 or ltu first or still undecided? Thanks