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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - AlphaRomeo - 09-15-2018

Shannon,

Does the self effects of pheromone products "kill" the state shifting in 5.5g+ subs (as if I understand correctly they can produce chemical reaction in brain)? If this is too simplified question please expand and explain under which circumstances, on what dosages etc. you think one could use mones (and what kind of mones) and still be on safe side when it comes to state shifting. Thank you.

(I´m aware that DMSI aims to adjust body´s natural pheromones, so I am asking for the use with other subs.)


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 09-15-2018

(09-15-2018, 01:36 PM)kingpill Wrote:
(09-15-2018, 07:47 AM)Greenduck Wrote:
(09-15-2018, 06:12 AM)kingpill Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 07:19 PM)Have at ye Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 06:46 PM)kingpill Wrote: I understand, thanks for the reply Shannon. Funnily enough, the encounter made him look bad but girls for some reason were more catering to me so clearly somehow, the auric shield is working to some degree. Maybe thats TID though.

I don't think it's the shield's work, it's just that the guy proved himself to be an insecure ass, and thus actually further showed your high value to any female bystanders - simply through the fact of trying to challenge it in the most moronic way possible. Big Grin

Lol yeah thats prob why but I can't help but think DMSI had something to do with it. I already had a super high value before that and I think that made the guy make up excuses as to wanting to fight me :@Undecided

Sorry to be that guy, but have you considered that you behaved off-setting in some way towards him? Still not justifies him to pick a fight with you, but can maybe give you a hint on how to adjust your behavior to not get in the situation again.

Not that I can think of, he was a older guy (30s) who wants to be a beard and tattoo model and thought I should be respecting him for being older. He said he didn't like the way I carried myself. lol

EDIT: MAYBE I was being rude/disrespectful IDK but I personally didn't see it.

@"kingpill"

Where did this incident happen?
Was it at a local cafe? Restaurant? Local library? Pub? Nightclub? Train station? Office at your workplace? Etc?

What time?
Was it day? night? At lunch? At a nightclub around midnight? Etc?

Was alcohol / drinking involved?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 09-15-2018

(09-15-2018, 01:32 PM)kingpill Wrote: Ive realized that girls open way more indirectly and situationally than guys. Sure, one in 26 might approach with a direct 'lets ****' kind of vibe ( has happened to me before DMSI so defo possible with DMSI) but most will be situational. I got approached by 2 girls situationally yesterday . One was a 7, one was a 9. Nothing came of it, but yeah. lol

What do you mean by ‘situationally’ / ‘situational’?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Darwinn - 09-16-2018

(09-14-2018, 02:39 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 07:49 AM)Darwin Wrote: Shannon just wanna say that the cognitive effects of MLS legit worked, and i honestly believe there's a good case for whatever generated the increased intelligence, curiosity and ability to treat failure as valuable learning being in the skeleton of most programs - and definitely in LTU!

What results have you seen?

At times, a level of mental clarity and focus which felt like I was on modafinil. For the first time in my career being told I’m a top performer with my superiors main concern being that I’m given enough to keep me interested to stick around.

One project I was leading was about to get pulled because of a miscommunication from my boss on the day it was to go off to a client - normally this would immobilise me with shame, however because I could look at it as valuable learning fodder I was able to thrive an the adversity, and get things done anyway.

Because of the massive reduction in anxiety and clarity of mind I was piecing together a solid plan and acting on it for strategically having a much better life.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 09-16-2018

(09-15-2018, 01:32 PM)kingpill Wrote: Ive realized that girls open way more indirectly and situationally than guys. Sure, one in 26 might approach with a direct 'lets ****' kind of vibe ( has happened to me before DMSI so defo possible with DMSI) but most will be situational. I got approached by 2 girls situationally yesterday . One was a 7, one was a 9. Nothing came of it, but yeah. lol

This is something you're just now realizing?

The goal of DMSI, by the way, is to generate reactions from everybody you attract that are more direct and obvious.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 09-16-2018

(09-15-2018, 01:36 PM)kingpill Wrote:
(09-15-2018, 07:47 AM)Greenduck Wrote:
(09-15-2018, 06:12 AM)kingpill Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 07:19 PM)Have at ye Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 06:46 PM)kingpill Wrote: I understand, thanks for the reply Shannon. Funnily enough, the encounter made him look bad but girls for some reason were more catering to me so clearly somehow, the auric shield is working to some degree. Maybe thats TID though.

I don't think it's the shield's work, it's just that the guy proved himself to be an insecure ass, and thus actually further showed your high value to any female bystanders - simply through the fact of trying to challenge it in the most moronic way possible. Big Grin

Lol yeah thats prob why but I can't help but think DMSI had something to do with it. I already had a super high value before that and I think that made the guy make up excuses as to wanting to fight me :@Undecided

Sorry to be that guy, but have you considered that you behaved off-setting in some way towards him? Still not justifies him to pick a fight with you, but can maybe give you a hint on how to adjust your behavior to not get in the situation again.

Not that I can think of, he was a older guy (30s) who wants to be a beard and tattoo model and thought I should be respecting him for being older. He said he didn't like the way I carried myself. lol

EDIT: MAYBE I was being rude/disrespectful IDK but I personally didn't see it.

He didn't like the way you carry yourself? Wants to be a beard and tattoo model? Thought you should be respecting him for being older?

These all point to someone who got upset with you because they perceived your body language as stating that you were what they wished they were, which threatened their comfortable self perception and triggered their fears and insecurities.

Now of course we don't know all the details and variables, or his side of the story.

If that is what actually happened, that means that DMSI is working, and you are being perceived as Very High Value. VHV's usually gonna have haters. What we need to try to do is turn that "haterism" into admiration and get them following and possibly helping instead. That's going to require, yes, more energy.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 09-16-2018

(09-15-2018, 03:47 PM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: Shannon,

Does the self effects of pheromone products "kill" the state shifting in 5.5g+ subs (as if I understand correctly they can produce chemical reaction in brain)? If this is too simplified question please expand and explain under which circumstances, on what dosages etc. you think one could use mones (and what kind of mones) and still be on safe side when it comes to state shifting. Thank you.

(I´m aware that DMSI aims to adjust body´s natural pheromones, so I am asking for the use with other subs.)

Artificial pheromones, and even natural ones, can trigger state shifting in sufficient quantites. "Androstenone rage" is a good example. So is overdosing on Alpha Androstenol to "get high".

According to the instructions, you are not supposed to be using artificial pheromones with DMSI because:

1. It destroys the ideal pheromone signature that DMSI gives you, and
2. It destroys the state shifting that that ideal pheromone causes in you, and
3. Because it can chemically shift your state to something completely off in left field. Because you don't know what the right pheromones are to use in each situation.

If you do things that kill the state shifting, you lose some of the benefits the program is designed to give you to aid in execution. It's going to make the program at most as effective as it would be if I did not have the state shifting modules turned on.

I'm going to try to override chemical state shifting in 3.3, but I don't know how effective that is going to be.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Jake2015 - 09-16-2018

(09-14-2018, 12:41 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 11:15 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: Hey @Shannon

Hope youre well, and your lungs are getting better.

Im really upset and lost and so if you could kindly read my journal entry (just posted it, Id really appreciate it).

In summary of that post i have 2 questions:

1) As someone that has semi executed I wanted to remain on flac, but may have to try mp3, is it just as effective and powerful?

2) May I rename the tracks on my phone, as UMOP1, UMOP2, UMOP3, so that I can have 3 mp3s which I may have a chance finally to play (if the app works)?

If the answers to the above are no, then I may just need to ask for a refund because im totally lost and this is really upsetting as this is the SUB i need from the day I joined IML.

thanks in advance as always bro!

Not Shannon, but MP3 is about 3% - 5% less effective than FLAC. And you can rename the files as much you want as far you don't try to reencode the whole thing. From what you wrote, to me at looks at the moment like you are trying to find reasons to not use the sub.

Great thank you bro! I rather as I suspected, use flac as I need all the power I can get from these subs. Ill work on sorting out the silent playlist idea you gave in my journal. appreciate it


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 09-16-2018

(09-16-2018, 03:31 AM)Darwin Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 02:39 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 07:49 AM)Darwin Wrote: Shannon just wanna say that the cognitive effects of MLS legit worked, and i honestly believe there's a good case for whatever generated the increased intelligence, curiosity and ability to treat failure as valuable learning being in the skeleton of most programs - and definitely in LTU!

What results have you seen?

At times, a level of mental clarity and focus which felt like I was on modafinil. For the first time in my career being told I’m a top performer with my superiors main concern being that I’m given enough to keep me interested to stick around.

One project I was leading was about to get pulled because of a miscommunication from my boss on the day it was to go off to a client - normally this would immobilise me with shame, however because I could look at it as valuable learning fodder I was able to thrive an the adversity, and get things done anyway.

Because of the massive reduction in anxiety and clarity of mind I was piecing together a solid plan and acting on it for strategically having a much better life.

Now I just need it to work for everyone.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Broski - 09-16-2018

Hey Shannon,

I've been running US/LM B for 34 days now and have not yet been seeing the results i'm after. Ilve been experiencing a TON of fear and anxiety while running g this, almost verging on panic attacks on a few occasions and feeling like i'm losing my mind. A lot of different worries, negative thoughts and emotions coming up. I have also recently started trying to meditate more rigorously a little ways into the run so not sure if that might be part of it as well. Do you think I should keep going or try to switch to version A?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Greenduck - 09-16-2018

Could maybe a big obastacle in letting go of fear being getting over the fear of letting go of fear itself? As if fear previously have given the boundaries that guided your life, without it you are fearful of trusting your own instincts, as you are unfamiliar in how to do so.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Darwinn - 09-16-2018

(09-16-2018, 08:03 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(09-16-2018, 03:31 AM)Darwin Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 02:39 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 07:49 AM)Darwin Wrote: Shannon just wanna say that the cognitive effects of MLS legit worked, and i honestly believe there's a good case for whatever generated the increased intelligence, curiosity and ability to treat failure as valuable learning being in the skeleton of most programs - and definitely in LTU!

What results have you seen?

At times, a level of mental clarity and focus which felt like I was on modafinil. For the first time in my career being told I’m a top performer with my superiors main concern being that I’m given enough to keep me interested to stick around.

One project I was leading was about to get pulled because of a miscommunication from my boss on the day it was to go off to a client - normally this would immobilise me with shame, however because I could look at it as valuable learning fodder I was able to thrive an the adversity, and get things done anyway.

Because of the massive reduction in anxiety and clarity of mind I was piecing together a solid plan and acting on it for strategically having a much better life.

Now I just need it to work for everyone.

For some context as well - I’m coming from a place where I have been quite severely cognitively impaired, my brain has definitely had some healing, since I began with SE at the beginning of the year I haven’t felt the need to use drugs to support cognition once.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 09-16-2018

(09-16-2018, 06:03 AM)Shannon Wrote: He didn't like the way you carry yourself? Wants to be a beard and tattoo model? Thought you should be respecting him for being older?

These all point to someone who got upset with you because they perceived your body language as stating that you were what they wished they were, which threatened their comfortable self perception and triggered their fears and insecurities.

Now of course we don't know all the details and variables, or his side of the story.

If that is what actually happened, that means that DMSI is working, and you are being perceived as Very High Value. VHV's usually gonna have haters. What we need to try to do is turn that "haterism" into admiration and get them following and possibly helping instead. That's going to require, yes, more energy.

Yeah, I think thats the case. He was the type to expect girls to glance at him ETC because of his tattoo, beard etc, but kept seeing girls give me IOIs lol.

(09-15-2018, 07:34 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: @"kingpill"

Where did this incident happen?
Was it at a local cafe? Restaurant? Local library? Pub? Nightclub? Train station? Office at your workplace? Etc?

What time?
Was it day? night? At lunch? At a nightclub around midnight? Etc?

Was alcohol / drinking involved?

Night time in a pub so yeah, alcohol was involved.

(09-15-2018, 07:36 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: What do you mean by ‘situationally’ / ‘situational’?

Situationally as in try talk to you/relate to you in relation to something happening in your environment, or a situation you are in etc.

I had a 9 approach me to talk to about a bad smell thats was lingering at a bar lol and asking me if I smell that and trying to progress on from there.

Ive also noticed that some girls seem to go red and lick their lips before they chat to me LOOOL.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - ncbeareatingman - 09-16-2018

(09-16-2018, 01:10 PM)Darwin Wrote:
(09-16-2018, 08:03 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(09-16-2018, 03:31 AM)Darwin Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 02:39 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(09-14-2018, 07:49 AM)Darwin Wrote: Shannon just wanna say that the cognitive effects of MLS legit worked, and i honestly believe there's a good case for whatever generated the increased intelligence, curiosity and ability to treat failure as valuable learning being in the skeleton of most programs - and definitely in LTU!

What results have you seen?

At times, a level of mental clarity and focus which felt like I was on modafinil. For the first time in my career being told I’m a top performer with my superiors main concern being that I’m given enough to keep me interested to stick around.

One project I was leading was about to get pulled because of a miscommunication from my boss on the day it was to go off to a client - normally this would immobilise me with shame, however because I could look at it as valuable learning fodder I was able to thrive an the adversity, and get things done anyway.

Because of the massive reduction in anxiety and clarity of mind I was piecing together a solid plan and acting on it for strategically having a much better life.

Now I just need it to work for everyone.

For some context as well - I’m coming from a place where I have been quite severely cognitively impaired, my brain has definitely had some healing, since I began with SE at the beginning of the year I haven’t felt the need to use drugs to support cognition once.

Wow,Man! Thats incredible. good on you fella,good on you mate!!