(08-30-2018, 06:47 AM)THolt Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 05:54 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-29-2018, 06:59 PM)K-Train Wrote: Hey Shannon, I'm not sure whether this is TID or whatever but I feel it might be useful as you're designing 3.3.

Yesterday (and this morning) I experienced an almost completely lack of fear. Prime example: bad storm yesterday and lightening loudly cracked through close by and I didn't even break stride while I was in the rain taking out trash. May not be a big deal to anyone else, but it was for me. I was closing at my job yesterday and I felt so peaceful due to the lack of fear that I sat down on the floor and just took it all in. Zero f*cks given. I wasn't even concerned about my throat which I believe got badly irritated by consuming real spicy shit and has had me slightly worried for the last few days.

Got on campus today, was still in zero % fear mode (aka Ultra Instinct) but I then started doing 2 things:

1. When I saw attractive chicks I thought "I'm in a relationship I shouldn't approach". I'm not in a relationship, I was THINKING of getting into one [a relationship] with one female I'd been conversing with but she explicitly told me it's ok if I see other women.

2. The actions/routines/thought patterns that I had been engaging with for years due to fear suddenly felt foreign. For example, I sometimes get anxiety over my health so things like my throat being badly irritated would sometimes worry me. Well, because I had no fear around the irritation I kept thinking "shouldn't I be afraid that I'm not worried about anything?" Basically a sizable portion of my life had been built around fear to the point to where once that fear was gone it was like part of "me" was gone. I had become so accustomed to having fear that the LACK of fear...was causing FEAR because I was thinking of what was going to happen when the fear came back.


Concerning example #1: I know way back in V3.1/V3.0 you warned everyone who was in a relationship and wanted to keep it that there would come a point in time where DMSI was going to make such a thing extremely difficult. I think now would be a good time to make this happen because "I'm in relationship" could be a useful escape tactic.

Concerning example #2: I know most if not all 5.5G tech has a naturalizer but perhaps a naturalizer directly linked to fear removal would be useful?

PS: Related to what @samba99 said, PLEASE take your time with V3.3. We've learned our lesson by now. Take the time you need to test B17 if it means us possibly getting better tech with V3.3. There's a good chance we may not get V3.4/final for quite some time afterwards and I'm sure everyone would be more than happy to have a V3.3 that's got a full squadron of the latest tech and has the greatest chance of setting up V3.4 to (hopefully) be the final version needed.

Interesting indeed. Thanks for the information, I've made a note of that.

And I am taking my time. I am working hard on finishing B17 up right now. My girlfriend is starting to complain because of the amount of time each day I am working, actually. It's not going as fast as I would like, but I am hoping to be done in a week or less. I want to build and test that, and then potentially use some of these modules I am developing in 3.3. There are some that look really interesting for what they might achieve for DMSI. That will add at least 2 weeks to the build time for 3.3. I think it will be worth it.

Does B17 stand a good chance of being the final version of Beast?

(08-30-2018, 10:22 AM)Vasil Wrote: Hey Shannon, new as a commenter to the forum here (although not IML subs). Had a comment and a question on DMSI. As someone who didn't execute on DMSI 3.01-3.2, one thing I did notice was the role of fear in blocking progress. In 3.2 in particular, the fear actually manifested physically in what I can only describe as a stress overload response. For the first time in my life, I would get random surges of what I can only describe as swirling energy beginning around the stomach and moving up to the chest, lungs, and throat, creating what felt like internal pressure and making it hard to breathe. Initially began while listening to the sub but then would get it randomly throughout the day. My interpretation was this was the body seizing up due to intense fear/stress. Also experienced the weight gain that many others noted in 3.1 (roughly 25 pounds in my case, just now making progress on losing it while using US/LM). Hopefully this is helpful while you're working on 3.3.

On the question front, I remember you considering adding OED or IER while you were working on 3.2. Would you consider adding IER to 3.3? I'm someone who has had success with OED, but the results weren't permanent, so I'm hoping that when the rest of DMSI executes, there will also be a component to ensure we seal the deal so to speak. Thank you.

(08-30-2018, 05:15 PM)dissonance Wrote: Shannon, I'm talkin to this girl and tryin to help her out and I'm not sure how to respond to a certain comment she said. She's going through some stuff and i explained to her your reality is what you make of it, and she said "My reality is subject to my emotions and whatever my brain decides I should see and hear". I'm not sure how to tell her that that is inaccurate and how it is inaccurate in the first place.

What I was thinking of saying is something like "I know for a fact a persons reality is ofc affected by their emotions, but your conscious mind can be the filter of those negative emotions and thoughts and not let it become absorbed into your subconscious. The subconscious mind is malleable too, you can change those deep seated subconscious beliefs and fears and whatever"

Do you think that's a good response? What else should I add to make it more accurate?

(08-30-2018, 11:52 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 10:22 AM)Vasil Wrote: Hey Shannon, new as a commenter to the forum here (although not IML subs). Had a comment and a question on DMSI. As someone who didn't execute on DMSI 3.01-3.2, one thing I did notice was the role of fear in blocking progress. In 3.2 in particular, the fear actually manifested physically in what I can only describe as a stress overload response. For the first time in my life, I would get random surges of what I can only describe as swirling energy beginning around the stomach and moving up to the chest, lungs, and throat, creating what felt like internal pressure and making it hard to breathe. Initially began while listening to the sub but then would get it randomly throughout the day. My interpretation was this was the body seizing up due to intense fear/stress. Also experienced the weight gain that many others noted in 3.1 (roughly 25 pounds in my case, just now making progress on losing it while using US/LM). Hopefully this is helpful while you're working on 3.3.

On the question front, I remember you considering adding OED or IER while you were working on 3.2. Would you consider adding IER to 3.3? I'm someone who has had success with OED, but the results weren't permanent, so I'm hoping that when the rest of DMSI executes, there will also be a component to ensure we seal the deal so to speak. Thank you.

3.2 is designed to reverse weight gain caused by the subconscious resistance people experienced on 3.1. It takes quite the fear to cause the things you describe.

I take it you didn't get a chance to see the effects of the module for making you a better lover each time you have sex?

(08-30-2018, 05:39 PM)Leo1990 Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 05:15 PM)dissonance Wrote: Shannon, I'm talkin to this girl and tryin to help her out and I'm not sure how to respond to a certain comment she said. She's going through some stuff and i explained to her your reality is what you make of it, and she said "My reality is subject to my emotions and whatever my brain decides I should see and hear". I'm not sure how to tell her that that is inaccurate and how it is inaccurate in the first place.

What I was thinking of saying is something like "I know for a fact a persons reality is ofc affected by their emotions, but your conscious mind can be the filter of those negative emotions and thoughts and not let it become absorbed into your subconscious. The subconscious mind is malleable too, you can change those deep seated subconscious beliefs and fears and whatever"

Do you think that's a good response? What else should I add to make it more accurate?

seems pretty accurate to me. Women experience the world differently than men. You explaining logic to her, isn't going to help your position.

(08-30-2018, 07:58 PM)dissonance Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 05:39 PM)Leo1990 Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 05:15 PM)dissonance Wrote: Shannon, I'm talkin to this girl and tryin to help her out and I'm not sure how to respond to a certain comment she said. She's going through some stuff and i explained to her your reality is what you make of it, and she said "My reality is subject to my emotions and whatever my brain decides I should see and hear". I'm not sure how to tell her that that is inaccurate and how it is inaccurate in the first place.

What I was thinking of saying is something like "I know for a fact a persons reality is ofc affected by their emotions, but your conscious mind can be the filter of those negative emotions and thoughts and not let it become absorbed into your subconscious. The subconscious mind is malleable too, you can change those deep seated subconscious beliefs and fears and whatever"

Do you think that's a good response? What else should I add to make it more accurate?

seems pretty accurate to me. Women experience the world differently than men. You explaining logic to her, isn't going to help your position.

I think you're missing the point.

Plus, I'm not trying to gain or achieve any "position". I'm not trying to appeal to her emotions and stay away from logic or whatever because I'm not trying to "game" her lmfao.

(08-30-2018, 07:58 PM)dissonance Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 05:39 PM)Leo1990 Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 05:15 PM)dissonance Wrote: Shannon, I'm talkin to this girl and tryin to help her out and I'm not sure how to respond to a certain comment she said. She's going through some stuff and i explained to her your reality is what you make of it, and she said "My reality is subject to my emotions and whatever my brain decides I should see and hear". I'm not sure how to tell her that that is inaccurate and how it is inaccurate in the first place.

What I was thinking of saying is something like "I know for a fact a persons reality is ofc affected by their emotions, but your conscious mind can be the filter of those negative emotions and thoughts and not let it become absorbed into your subconscious. The subconscious mind is malleable too, you can change those deep seated subconscious beliefs and fears and whatever"

Do you think that's a good response? What else should I add to make it more accurate?

seems pretty accurate to me. Women experience the world differently than men. You explaining logic to her, isn't going to help your position.

I think you're missing the point.

Plus, I'm not trying to gain or achieve any "position". I'm not trying to appeal to her emotions and stay away from logic or whatever because I'm not trying to "game" her lmfao.

(08-31-2018, 08:42 AM)Leo1990 Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 07:58 PM)dissonance Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 05:39 PM)Leo1990 Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 05:15 PM)dissonance Wrote: Shannon, I'm talkin to this girl and tryin to help her out and I'm not sure how to respond to a certain comment she said. She's going through some stuff and i explained to her your reality is what you make of it, and she said "My reality is subject to my emotions and whatever my brain decides I should see and hear". I'm not sure how to tell her that that is inaccurate and how it is inaccurate in the first place.

What I was thinking of saying is something like "I know for a fact a persons reality is ofc affected by their emotions, but your conscious mind can be the filter of those negative emotions and thoughts and not let it become absorbed into your subconscious. The subconscious mind is malleable too, you can change those deep seated subconscious beliefs and fears and whatever"

Do you think that's a good response? What else should I add to make it more accurate?

seems pretty accurate to me. Women experience the world differently than men. You explaining logic to her, isn't going to help your position.

I think you're missing the point.

Plus, I'm not trying to gain or achieve any "position". I'm not trying to appeal to her emotions and stay away from logic or whatever because I'm not trying to "game" her lmfao.

I think you're missing the point.

This has nothing to do with "game-ing", only communication.