(07-09-2018, 06:19 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 05:19 AM)THolt Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 04:30 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-08-2018, 08:45 PM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote:

Shannon Wrote:Energy sourcing isn't even used in those programs. It's only necessary when you are using energy manipulation or flooding, which is almost always a program trying to project an aura or manipulate energy ingestion, such as DMSI in the first case, or MIR in the second.


Better than what?

Better than what exists in the current subliminal scripts - provided my assumption is correct.

The assumption is that UM and LM conflict because the subconscious is trying to focus "energy" on boosting motivation (an internal aspect) and fueling external manifestations with LM (an external aspect).

If this is true, two possible solutions are "more energy" or "more effective usage of existing energy".

Whenever the subconscious attempts to execute an action - this requires "energy". It is possible that one kind of energy is used to change inner beliefs (UM), another kind to fuel external manifestations (US), and a third kind to power an aura (DMSI).

Based on what you are saying, the energy sourcing module used in DMSI is focused exclusively on generating the third kind of energy.

Are you 100% certain that this energy sourcing module cannot be modified to source energy for manifestation purposes?

It is not possible that they conflict because of energy sourcing. When I run the models, I can find "what" relatively easily, but "why" may take days, weeks, months, even years to find because I am usually stabbing in the dark. So I model "what" and don't bother with "why" in most cases.

Shannon Wrote:

Quote:Also, which of the following - US, UM, LM - are already in the 6G skeleton script?

LM is the only one that is not directly present in the skeleton script. There is a module that is something similar, but not focused in the same way. There will be an enhanced focus on those already present when I build these focusfires, so that their effect is significantly magnified. In other words, I will be enhancing and expanding the statements that make them up considerably.

Glad to hear that the US and UM modules in the skeleton script are being enhanced! Those are among my favorite subs. Thanks

Shannon,

I never used LM before. Does it work by bringing your conscious thoughts and desires into reality or does it make random good things happen to you?

How much more effective would LM be in 5.5G?

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

(07-09-2018, 09:39 AM)Have at ye Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

I agree.

PUA stuff is predominantly a business, and a pretty damn effective - and relatively effortless - way to make money without much overhead. It mostly consists of: 1. Well-intentioned morons (I'd say roughly 25%), 2. People who actually make some interesting points or are actually presenting relevant, useful information (I'd say, dunno, 1%? 2%? Total outliers. The Rational Male guy comes to mind - he's actually presenting solid behavioral research, it's just that it's dressed in the PUA-lingo), 3. Narcissists who prey on human frailty (the rest).

You can usually tell which is which by what kind of copy they use to sell their products.

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Sarge correct me if I am wrong I remember in one of your posts you did mention that you were told by a dating coach or maybe friends you are a good looking guy. So if you are an "8" on the looks scale taking hypergamy into account. Anyone who is an 8 should be able to pull someone of the opposite sex on the same looks scale or below. Looks can be amplified using grooming, makeup, shaving, facial creams, gym etc. A guy who is a 7 can easily become a 9. Despite what PUA tells you looks and grooming play a huge role in attraction.

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Game or PUA is an illusion it just gives you some structure or gambits to use to get to the end goal which is getting her into bed. These gambits are usually dialogues centered around what to say as most guys do not have a clue on what to say to or how to talk to women.

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Now the way game is marketed if it really worked why are so many guys struggling to get the so called 9s and 10s and the super models of this world. Why are so many guys investing in SM, WM and DMSI ?.

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: DMSI has actually pushed me to workout on a regular basis and dress to kill as well giving me the confidence and drive make things happen. On numerous occasions I have looked into the eyes of a girl and she started to blush, giggle or begin to show signs of interest. On occasions some girls cannot handle the sexual tension and move away from me.

(07-09-2018, 10:30 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Sarge correct me if I am wrong I remember in one of your posts you did mention that you were told by a dating coach or maybe friends you are a good looking guy. So if you are an "8" on the looks scale taking hypergamy into account. Anyone who is an 8 should be able to pull someone of the opposite sex on the same looks scale or below. Looks can be amplified using grooming, makeup, shaving, facial creams, gym etc. A guy who is a 7 can easily become a 9. Despite what PUA tells you looks and grooming play a huge role in attraction.

Yes it's true. I'm probably an 8 (could be a 9 if I put on 30 lbs of muscle and fixed my rosacea) and yet I can't sleep with girls without using PUA tactics.

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Game or PUA is an illusion it just gives you some structure or gambits to use to get to the end goal which is getting her into bed. These gambits are usually dialogues centered around what to say as most guys do not have a clue on what to say to or how to talk to women.

Exactly. This is why it has helped me.

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Now the way game is marketed if it really worked why are so many guys struggling to get the so called 9s and 10s and the super models of this world. Why are so many guys investing in SM, WM and DMSI ?.

I don't understand the question...

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: DMSI has actually pushed me to workout on a regular basis and dress to kill as well giving me the confidence and drive make things happen. On numerous occasions I have looked into the eyes of a girl and she started to blush, giggle or begin to show signs of interest. On occasions some girls cannot handle the sexual tension and move away from me.

You still haven't answered my question...

(07-09-2018, 10:44 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 10:30 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:

(07-09-2018, 08:46 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I suspect that there is an obsession with PUA and game which might hinder the execution of DMSI for some people. The reason I believe this is the case is that I hear alot of people say that they did not have tight game that is why they never got laid with the girl. That tells me they have already placed the girl on a pedestial. That is I need game before I can get laid whereas DMSI execution does not require you to know PUA or have game.

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Sarge correct me if I am wrong I remember in one of your posts you did mention that you were told by a dating coach or maybe friends you are a good looking guy. So if you are an "8" on the looks scale taking hypergamy into account. Anyone who is an 8 should be able to pull someone of the opposite sex on the same looks scale or below. Looks can be amplified using grooming, makeup, shaving, facial creams, gym etc. A guy who is a 7 can easily become a 9. Despite what PUA tells you looks and grooming play a huge role in attraction.

Yes it's true. I'm probably an 8 (could be a 9 if I put on 30 lbs of muscle and fixed my rosacea) and yet I can't sleep with girls without using PUA tactics.

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Game or PUA is an illusion it just gives you some structure or gambits to use to get to the end goal which is getting her into bed. These gambits are usually dialogues centered around what to say as most guys do not have a clue on what to say to or how to talk to women.

Exactly. This is why it has helped me.

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Now the way game is marketed if it really worked why are so many guys struggling to get the so called 9s and 10s and the super models of this world. Why are so many guys investing in SM, WM and DMSI ?.

I don't understand the question...

(07-09-2018, 10:26 AM)thor2014 Wrote: DMSI has actually pushed me to workout on a regular basis and dress to kill as well giving me the confidence and drive make things happen. On numerous occasions I have looked into the eyes of a girl and she started to blush, giggle or begin to show signs of interest. On occasions some girls cannot handle the sexual tension and move away from me.

You still haven't answered my question...

The girls slept with you because they find you attractive not because of pua.