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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 07:16 AM)lano1106 Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 04:55 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 12:43 PM)lano1106 Wrote: Why did it not kick in for me when it would have been useful to have it?

Because for some reason, your subconscious refused to execute it. I can think of only fear as being why, although I don't know what you would fear.

That can be. I'm craving to be in relation with high sex drive women. That girl was probably what I was wishing for. It was in the pocket. All that she needed to be in my pocket was to be satisfied.

Subconscious mind is such a wicked beast. For the best or the worse, it did the ultimate, most frustrating, form of execution resistance...

Still, I can see some form of progress torward the program goals. Lets keep going... Almost there...

Assumption is the mother of all fuckups. You are assuming she was what you were looking for; maybe she had AIDS instead? You cannot know what is what consciously. You therefore can't get too upset. You don't know. Getting mad at your subconscious for what you think it did, or what it might have done, does not help things. Remember that it has access to knowledge and senses that your conscious mind does not.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - lano1106 - 05-29-2018

Totally agree with what you say. In general, I have a high level of serenity and accepting what things happen as there must be a good reason for what they happen.

I'm not mad at my subconscious mind. It is probably my best buddy, looking out for my best interests all the time. I am just amazed how stubborn it can be and how powerful it is when it disagree with something that I want to do consciously...

This reminds me the blind date that I was supposed to have. I was looking for my date inside the restaurant while the girl was waiting me outside in the parking.

And precisely at that moment, my phone got bricked by a firmware update that has been pushed in my phone so I could not text her to ask her where she was.

I mean, I am amazed and stunned by these incredible coincidences that stops me from getting what I want. It may even be a little bit frustrating in the moment.

but I am totally accepting these things and I think that I am able to positively spin what happens to me. That is why I wrote:

Quote:Still, I can see some form of progress torward the program goals. Lets keep going... Almost there...



RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 07:47 AM)lano1106 Wrote: Totally agree with what you say. In general, I have a high level of serenity and accepting what things happen as there must be a good reason for what they happen.

I'm not mad at my subconscious mind. It is probably my best buddy, looking out for my best interests all the time. I am just amazed how stubborn it can be and how powerful it is when it disagree with something that I want to do consciously...

This reminds me the blind date that I was supposed to have. I was looking for my date inside the restaurant while the girl was waiting me outside in the parking.

And precisely at that moment, my phone got bricked by a firmware update that has been pushed in my phone so I could not text her to ask her where she was.

I mean, I am amazed and stunned by these incredible coincidences that stops me from getting what I want. It may even be a little bit frustrating in the moment.

but I am totally accepting these things and I think that I am able to positively spin what happens to me. That is why I wrote:

Quote:Still, I can see some form of progress torward the program goals. Lets keep going... Almost there...

Your subconscious tries to do what it believes is the right thing. It may or may not be operating based on fear, imagined outcomes, etc. So it may or may not be actually helping. But it is incredibly powerful and you're seeing that when it disagrees with what the conscious mind wants

Fortunately I am working on what I hope to be the two final keys to over coming that disagreement and the resulting resistance.

I have seen enough in my day that I don't believe there is any such thing as "coincidence". Everything happens for a reason, whether or not we understand what that reason is.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - JCasterlin - 05-29-2018

@Shannon - In the thread as to what an " Ascending Alpha " is you mention how in may take more than one run of AM to reach the goal/goals of what AM is intended to do. Any idea how many runs that night take? I feel like with what I'm experiencing & what I have to work through it may take three runs


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - thor2014 - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 05:29 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 10:56 PM)thor2014 Wrote: Last 2 days been listening to dmsi A at 7 loops a day
Getting dreams of naked women in swimming pools and blonde girls. Was not getting this on 2 loops.

What happened to 10 loops a day?

Not enough time in the day to do 10 loops


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Fluffy - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 06:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 06:23 AM)Fluffy Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 05:32 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 01:22 AM)Fluffy Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 04:49 PM)Shannon Wrote: It is entirely possible that DMSI is pushing you to get up and become self sufficient in order for it to achieve its goals. It is also possible that this is just an excuse to quit DMSI - since it already has SE in it.

DMSI will do whatever is necessary to get you to the goal. Lot if guys here started working on making money, or more money, when they started doing DMSI. But you can't get there if you stop using it.

Be sure you know it's not just clever resistance tactics before you switch. ARA isn't going to be the end all be all to getting a job and being self sufficient.

Yeah that is a very good point Shannon, I don't know why I could not see that.

Likely because your subconscious was preventing your conscious from seeing it in an effort to escape.

Quote:Yesterday after only a few nights of doing 2 loops of A, I started having this kind of dizzy feeling upon waking, I brushed it off and just thought it is because of the extra processing from the 2 loops.

Anyway, I took a nap in the afternoon and I had this dream which involved me interacting with someone in this big caravan type thing, and it starting spinning and spinning with me inside and I was still stationary, but the spinning around me would not stop and I felt fear and felt like I had no control and I got scared and I actually woke up with my heart beating fast, feeling disorientated and thinking "wow that is enough sleep" and I got up.

Shortly after that I started changing my mind about my plans to go abroad and work for 1 year + to become self sufficient and independent, I felt like I started feeling fearful of leaving home and my parents.

I was kind of shocked at how this nap effected me, because I don't hardly ever feel fear, consciously at least. This was quite negatively trippy, reminded me of a certain type of mushroom I used to eat years ago.

So that night, last night, I switched back to 1 loop, because I thought that 2 was too much and I didn't want to lose my mind (Past experiences, Mushrooms + Ego Death)

Is there a guideline/rule for decreasing the loops vs increasing them?

If I felt this from 2 loops, I don't think I would be able to do 7 loops or 10. That would not only give me rapid ego death but would most likely give me Vertigo too.

I suppose this is a good thing though, at least I don't have to do a millions loops just to feel something.

So you start getting results, it scares you, and you back down to what wasn't being effective. That's how to get the results waste your time.

Hiding from what scares you perpetuates and enhances the fear.

You are seeing your subconscious do things to convince you to stop running DMSI. It's afraid. You should do one of the following two things:

1. Stop running DMSI and use something else entirely.
2. Face your fears and overcome them.


Ok, that makes sense. I am currently in a sling at the moment as I had shoulder surgery two weeks ago. Gotta be in this sling for 6 weeks.

I have been feeling ALOT of anger and frustration, as I am unable to do anything and/or get on with things until I am out of sling. I noticed I am being more easily triggered too, things that touch deep within my emotions, that I don't fully understand why.

I did have thoughts that this can only get worse right, if I am unable to fully act?

In response to any and all of your thoughts that touch on what to do with regards to DMSI, if you choose to keep using it, do this:

Ask:

"How will this thought, belief, point of view and/or response affect my use of and achieving the goals of DMSI?"

If it will affect them in a negative way, it is a sabotage attempt. THROW IT AWAY and replace it with a positive belief or thought that will result in achieving the goals of DMSI.

Thanks Shannon, all this helped alot! Much appreciated.

I will go back to 2 loops tonight and I will brace myself for a wild adventure lol.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - thor2014 - 05-29-2018

Shannon whilst running dmsi A. I feel like i should run alpha man subliminal. Because i feel less alpha. Should i stop dmsi a and start ams ?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 05-29-2018

(05-28-2018, 05:14 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 07:24 PM)Travis Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 06:34 PM)Nox Wrote: If it's an actual situation I'd say you have more things to worry about than your subliminal usage.

Idk man, prison sounds pretty chill. You get to sit around and watch TV all day, read books and lift weights.

My mother worked for the State of Florida for 20+ years in a maximum security men's prison as an education counselor, and the stories she came home with tell me that for you to have that opinion of prison, you have never seen the inside of one.

Inmates are not "chill". They are largely bored. And violent. And believe in the old concept of "might makes right". They will, and do, kill each other over stuff you wouldn't believe - and they do it on a regular basis. Rape is not the worst thing that can happen to you in prison.

Trust me, the smart man has a healthy fear of going to prison, even in the United States, where the prisons are like country clubs compared to the prisons in other parts of the world.

Maybe one day the "Unconditional Love" sub will be played in prisons, one loop a day and these problems will be fading.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 08:56 AM)JCasterlin Wrote: @Shannon - In the thread as to what an " Ascending Alpha " is you mention how in may take more than one run of AM to reach the goal/goals of what AM is intended to do. Any idea how many runs that night take? I feel like with what I'm experiencing & what I have to work through it may take three runs

2 to 3 runs is normal.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 11:17 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Shannon whilst running dmsi A. I feel like i should run alpha man subliminal. Because i feel less alpha. Should i stop dmsi a and start ams ?

You feel less alpha because you're healing some deep wounds and things that are holding you back from achieving the goals of DMSI, and truly being alpha. Notice how everyone is reporting that they're revisiting old memories and such lately?

If you stop DMSI A and run AM, then you are going to achieve the goals of AM, not DMSI.

I suggest you stick with DMSI.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 11:27 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 05:14 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 07:24 PM)Travis Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 06:34 PM)Nox Wrote: If it's an actual situation I'd say you have more things to worry about than your subliminal usage.

Idk man, prison sounds pretty chill. You get to sit around and watch TV all day, read books and lift weights.

My mother worked for the State of Florida for 20+ years in a maximum security men's prison as an education counselor, and the stories she came home with tell me that for you to have that opinion of prison, you have never seen the inside of one.

Inmates are not "chill". They are largely bored. And violent. And believe in the old concept of "might makes right". They will, and do, kill each other over stuff you wouldn't believe - and they do it on a regular basis. Rape is not the worst thing that can happen to you in prison.

Trust me, the smart man has a healthy fear of going to prison, even in the United States, where the prisons are like country clubs compared to the prisons in other parts of the world.

Maybe one day the "Unconditional Love" sub will be played in prisons, one loop a day and these problems will be fading.

It would be nice, but I think realistically, subliminals is a technology that's too far out there to be taken seriously enough for that to be even a possibility unless and until I develop "slap you in the face obvious for everyone". Let's hope I do.

I also think that it would be better to do some deep E3 alongside it.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Tigerismyspirit - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 12:58 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 11:17 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Shannon whilst running dmsi A. I feel like i should run alpha man subliminal. Because i feel less alpha. Should i stop dmsi a and start ams ?

You feel less alpha because you're healing some deep wounds and things that are holding you back from achieving the goals of DMSI, and truly being alpha. Notice how everyone is reporting that they're revisiting old memories and such lately?

If you stop DMSI A and run AM, then you are going to achieve the goals of AM, not DMSI.

I suggest you stick with DMSI.

That sheds lights on my desire to run AM6 too. I remember you mentioning once if one's subconscious perceives being alpha necessary to achieve the goal of DMSI, then he will end up being an alpha.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 01:09 PM)Razib1988 Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 12:58 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 11:17 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Shannon whilst running dmsi A. I feel like i should run alpha man subliminal. Because i feel less alpha. Should i stop dmsi a and start ams ?

You feel less alpha because you're healing some deep wounds and things that are holding you back from achieving the goals of DMSI, and truly being alpha. Notice how everyone is reporting that they're revisiting old memories and such lately?

If you stop DMSI A and run AM, then you are going to achieve the goals of AM, not DMSI.

I suggest you stick with DMSI.

That sheds lights on my desire to run AM6 too. I remember you mentioning once if one's subconscious perceives being alpha necessary to achieve the goal of DMSI, then he will end up being an alpha.

It's basically a convenient excuse. "Oh, well, to achieve DMSI, I need to be X and I can become X by running this other sub..."

Meanwhile, it's you not running DMSI....


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Tigerismyspirit - 05-29-2018

(05-29-2018, 01:30 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 01:09 PM)Razib1988 Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 12:58 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-29-2018, 11:17 AM)thor2014 Wrote: Shannon whilst running dmsi A. I feel like i should run alpha man subliminal. Because i feel less alpha. Should i stop dmsi a and start ams ?

You feel less alpha because you're healing some deep wounds and things that are holding you back from achieving the goals of DMSI, and truly being alpha. Notice how everyone is reporting that they're revisiting old memories and such lately?

If you stop DMSI A and run AM, then you are going to achieve the goals of AM, not DMSI.

I suggest you stick with DMSI.

That sheds lights on my desire to run AM6 too. I remember you mentioning once if one's subconscious perceives being alpha necessary to achieve the goal of DMSI, then he will end up being an alpha.

It's basically a convenient excuse. "Oh, well, to achieve DMSI, I need to be X and I can become X by running this other sub..."

Meanwhile, it's you not running DMSI....

Oh I think I left a little blank there. While running DMSI, if the user's subconscious needs him to be an alpha in order to achieve the goal of DMSI, the user will become an alpha or DMSI will make him an alpha. I think that gives more clarification.