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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - DarkPlouf - 05-28-2018

@Shannon : Running SE 5.5G again. I'm on the second day.
Is there any meaning in SE bringing back old memories ?
The first day I remembered a song that my English teacher taught us when I was in elementary school.
And today at noon I started humming a song that my uncle composed when I was about 10 yo.
I also remembered yesterday a catchphrase that I used to speak frequently when I was very young.

I think it happened also during my first run of SE. My question is, is there any meaning behind old memories resurfacing?
If that can help, I usually do not remember my childhood at all.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Determined - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 04:30 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 07:18 PM)Travis Wrote: Chastise me all you want, I know it sounds silly. But it's not a stupid question. If DMSI makes the user more susceptible to sexual assault I want to know. I already have my suspicions because gay men have acted very aggressive towards me and that never happened off DMSI.
I think it does...After all there's the thing that happened to me with the taxi driver.
While I was running DMSI 3.1.
I would be careful if I were you. And yes like for me it never happened before DMSI too, so obviously that's something to take seriously because it's not just us imagining things.

Gay men are very sexually aggressive. I have a gay friend and he told me he's easily been with 500+ sexual partners. He said it's as easy as "going up to a guy in a gay nightclub and pinching their ass". That's just the culture they come from, so don't take it personally.

Lol, I told him back "if only being heterosexual was that easy" haha


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - JCasterlin - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 05:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 11:15 PM)Churchill Wrote: Hey Shannon. I'm greatful for this wonderful tape called 'ASC'. Although I'm mad at what's happened lately.
At some point this tape got me so confident, I felt like I could see the matrix. I was awesome, eye contact awesome!, Body language was super dominant and flawless. My speech and tonality were on point. I even got the attractive sales girl practically begging for attention. But that only lasted for about 6 days. I wake up on day 7 thinking I'm still in God mode, until I realize I'm back to the way I was 6 days ago. Not like I'm completely lacking of confidence now, I'm just saying I am currently nothing close to the way I was in those six days. What the heck?. Why did ASC get me there only to take me back later? I'm angry at this. It's been about a week since then, still not back to that mode in spite of my 5hrs minimum a day commitment to listening.

PS. I've been listening to ASC months prior to that '6 days of awesomeness'.

If I keep listening, am I ever gonna get it back?, will it be permanent if I listen long enough?

I have explained this concept before, but I will explain it again.

In the beginning, you have too much fear to fully execute. Over time, your fear is less and less compared to the effects of the subliminal, and eventually the subliminal dominates the fear and you execute and see that glorious success. Then the fearful part of you becomes more afraid because you're doing what it fears, until it overrides the subliminal, and then you stop.

Then over time and continued usage, you again override the fear and again have that glorious success, and usually this cycle continues a few times, with each time the fear getting weaker and weaker as the success becomes more and more familiar and normalized, so it results in more and more success and less and less fear in each cycle. And eventually the success becomes so normal and comfortable, and the fears have seen that there really is nothing to fear, that they just go away, and all you have left in the end is the success in executing the program.

Just keep going. It's not the end of the world.

I can't tell you how long you'll need, or how long it would take you running this program to make the success permanent, as everyone is different. But getting angry at the sub doesn't make sense, because it's not the sub that took away your success, it;s the part of you that is afraid of that success!

Let the sub bring you back, and over time, normalize the success as your new reality.

Shannon , I read elsewhere on here that ASC only increases self confidence temporarily. From what you just posted it would seem the results are long term if not permanent?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Churchill - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 05:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 11:15 PM)Churchill Wrote: Hey Shannon. I'm greatful for this wonderful tape called 'ASC'. Although I'm mad at what's happened lately.
At some point this tape got me so confident, I felt like I could see the matrix. I was awesome, eye contact awesome!, Body language was super dominant and flawless. My speech and tonality were on point. I even got the attractive sales girl practically begging for attention. But that only lasted for about 6 days. I wake up on day 7 thinking I'm still in God mode, until I realize I'm back to the way I was 6 days ago. Not like I'm completely lacking of confidence now, I'm just saying I am currently nothing close to the way I was in those six days. What the heck?. Why did ASC get me there only to take me back later? I'm angry at this. It's been about a week since then, still not back to that mode in spite of my 5hrs minimum a day commitment to listening.

PS. I've been listening to ASC months prior to that '6 days of awesomeness'.

If I keep listening, am I ever gonna get it back?, will it be permanent if I listen long enough?

I have explained this concept before, but I will explain it again.

In the beginning, you have too much fear to fully execute. Over time, your fear is less and less compared to the effects of the subliminal, and eventually the subliminal dominates the fear and you execute and see that glorious success. Then the fearful part of you becomes more afraid because you're doing what it fears, until it overrides the subliminal, and then you stop.

Then over time and continued usage, you again override the fear and again have that glorious success, and usually this cycle continues a few times, with each time the fear getting weaker and weaker as the success becomes more and more familiar and normalized, so it results in more and more success and less and less fear in each cycle. And eventually the success becomes so normal and comfortable, and the fears have seen that there really is nothing to fear, that they just go away, and all you have left in the end is the success in executing the program.

Just keep going. It's not the end of the world.

I can't tell you how long you'll need, or how long it would take you running this program to make the success permanent, as everyone is different. But getting angry at the sub doesn't make sense, because it's not the sub that took away your success, it;s the part of you that is afraid of that success!

Let the sub bring you back, and over time, normalize the success as your new reality.

Thanks you Shannon. Almost thought it was Placebo back there. I will give it my all for as long as possible till I'm completely transformed. Will definitely be going for Overcome Approach Anxiety, and EHPRA 2 once I am funded.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - JCasterlin - 05-28-2018

Shannon, does AM6 help with ego? Or at least developing a healthy one? As I just posted in my AM6 journal I feel like my ego is way out of control & hindering my progress at my job.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 07:27 AM)JCasterlin Wrote: Shannon, does AM6 help with ego? Or at least developing a healthy one? As I just posted in my AM6 journal I feel like my ego is way out of control & hindering my progress at my job.

I'm not Shannon but I'll answer so he doesn't have to: Yes. Am 6 has what's called "ego balancing". The fact that you noticed it is probably the program working to bring your attention to it and correct it.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - JCasterlin - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 07:56 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 07:27 AM)JCasterlin Wrote: Shannon, does AM6 help with ego? Or at least developing a healthy one? As I just posted in my AM6 journal I feel like my ego is way out of control & hindering my progress at my job.

I'm not Shannon but I'll answer so he doesn't have to: Yes. Am 6 has what's called "ego balancing". The fact that you noticed it is probably the program working to bring your attention to it and correct it.

I recall reading that either in the instructions or on the sales page.Thank you. It wasn't something I was initially aware of until I expressed my frustration with my progress to my wife as well as my supervisor. I didn't say the same thing to both. My supervisor told me to stop trying so hard & let things happen. I'm still confused how not trying is going to help unless he means don't be attached to the outcome. Which is entirely possible. My wife was actually the one who mentioned ego when I said something about being way smarter than some of the people that have been working at my job for years. I just read an article Ryan Holiday wrote about killing your toxic ego. It hurt bad to read that because I could see myself in a lot of how I sabotage myself.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 08:39 AM)JCasterlin Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 07:56 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 07:27 AM)JCasterlin Wrote: Shannon, does AM6 help with ego? Or at least developing a healthy one? As I just posted in my AM6 journal I feel like my ego is way out of control & hindering my progress at my job.

I'm not Shannon but I'll answer so he doesn't have to: Yes. Am 6 has what's called "ego balancing". The fact that you noticed it is probably the program working to bring your attention to it and correct it.

I recall reading that either in the instructions or on the sales page.Thank you. It wasn't something I was initially aware of until I expressed my frustration with my progress to my wife as well as my supervisor. I didn't say the same thing to both. My supervisor told me to stop trying so hard & let things happen. I'm still confused how not trying is going to help unless he means don't be attached to the outcome. Which is entirely possible. My wife was actually the one who mentioned ego when I said something about being way smarter than some of the people that have been working at my job for years. I just read an article Ryan Holiday wrote about killing your toxic ego. It hurt bad to read that because I could see myself in a lot of how I sabotage myself.

Keep in mind it's in your supervisor's best interest for you to stay "as you are". Hence his useless advice.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Fluffy - 05-28-2018

@Shannon

I have started DMSI 3.2 A and I am wondering how would I go about using ARA 5.5G, would I need a break from using DMSI, or is it something I get to use and then come back to DMSI?

I have a similar problem that your girlfriend had job wise, mine is over most of my life (30 years) and me not working much and when I have it has mostly been for family and a few odd jobs here and there that I always quit. For a few years now I have found it a challenge to become more independent and self sufficient, and I have got to a place where my parents just give me money, without me having to work, I live at home with parents too.

The whole parents giving me "everything" throughout my life, has made it challenging to become self sufficient, independent money wise and I imagine getting a job my self and earning my "own" money would do wonders for my self esteem, self respect etc

When I read what you said about your girlfriends experience made me wonder if it would help me in this regard.

Every time I start using DMSI, I start feeling like it won't help me in this area, I don't know why, maybe because it is focused on sex, not money lol.

Any thoughts, appreciated.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Blacksheep - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 03:23 AM)Determined Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 07:18 PM)Travis Wrote: Chastise me all you want, I know it sounds silly. But it's not a stupid question. If DMSI makes the user more susceptible to sexual assault I want to know. I already have my suspicions because gay men have acted very aggressive towards me and that never happened off DMSI.

I appreciate your intellectual curiosity.

Big Herc does a great job of breaking down prison culture and he goes into what you're describing.

Minutes 2:30 - 4:00 for related content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pEzp-Bn1Lk

Thanks, can't stop watching this guy Lol

He's awesome


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 05:52 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote: @Shannon : Running SE 5.5G again. I'm on the second day.
Is there any meaning in SE bringing back old memories ?
The first day I remembered a song that my English teacher taught us when I was in elementary school.
And today at noon I started humming a song that my uncle composed when I was about 10 yo.
I also remembered yesterday a catchphrase that I used to speak frequently when I was very young.

I think it happened also during my first run of SE. My question is, is there any meaning behind old memories resurfacing?
If that can help, I usually do not remember my childhood at all.

If you are experiencing old memories it's probably that your subconscious is working through things that happened to you at those ages that need to be unblocked to achieve its goals.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 06:14 AM)Determined Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 04:30 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 07:18 PM)Travis Wrote: Chastise me all you want, I know it sounds silly. But it's not a stupid question. If DMSI makes the user more susceptible to sexual assault I want to know. I already have my suspicions because gay men have acted very aggressive towards me and that never happened off DMSI.
I think it does...After all there's the thing that happened to me with the taxi driver.
While I was running DMSI 3.1.
I would be careful if I were you. And yes like for me it never happened before DMSI too, so obviously that's something to take seriously because it's not just us imagining things.

Gay men are very sexually aggressive. I have a gay friend and he told me he's easily been with 500+ sexual partners. He said it's as easy as "going up to a guy in a gay nightclub and pinching their ass". That's just the culture they come from, so don't take it personally.

Lol, I told him back "if only being heterosexual was that easy" haha

Ypu have one gay friend, and ypu know how all of tjem act as a result? I have sevetal gay friends, and some are as meek as a mpuse sexually, while others ate pretty straightforward. Like straight guys, gay guys come in a wide variety of types.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-28-2018

(05-28-2018, 06:50 AM)JCasterlin Wrote:
(05-28-2018, 05:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(05-27-2018, 11:15 PM)Churchill Wrote: Hey Shannon. I'm greatful for this wonderful tape called 'ASC'. Although I'm mad at what's happened lately.
At some point this tape got me so confident, I felt like I could see the matrix. I was awesome, eye contact awesome!, Body language was super dominant and flawless. My speech and tonality were on point. I even got the attractive sales girl practically begging for attention. But that only lasted for about 6 days. I wake up on day 7 thinking I'm still in God mode, until I realize I'm back to the way I was 6 days ago. Not like I'm completely lacking of confidence now, I'm just saying I am currently nothing close to the way I was in those six days. What the heck?. Why did ASC get me there only to take me back later? I'm angry at this. It's been about a week since then, still not back to that mode in spite of my 5hrs minimum a day commitment to listening.

PS. I've been listening to ASC months prior to that '6 days of awesomeness'.

If I keep listening, am I ever gonna get it back?, will it be permanent if I listen long enough?

I have explained this concept before, but I will explain it again.

In the beginning, you have too much fear to fully execute. Over time, your fear is less and less compared to the effects of the subliminal, and eventually the subliminal dominates the fear and you execute and see that glorious success. Then the fearful part of you becomes more afraid because you're doing what it fears, until it overrides the subliminal, and then you stop.

Then over time and continued usage, you again override the fear and again have that glorious success, and usually this cycle continues a few times, with each time the fear getting weaker and weaker as the success becomes more and more familiar and normalized, so it results in more and more success and less and less fear in each cycle. And eventually the success becomes so normal and comfortable, and the fears have seen that there really is nothing to fear, that they just go away, and all you have left in the end is the success in executing the program.

Just keep going. It's not the end of the world.

I can't tell you how long you'll need, or how long it would take you running this program to make the success permanent, as everyone is different. But getting angry at the sub doesn't make sense, because it's not the sub that took away your success, it;s the part of you that is afraid of that success!

Let the sub bring you back, and over time, normalize the success as your new reality.

Shannon , I read elsewhere on here that ASC only increases self confidence temporarily. From what you just posted it would seem the results are long term if not permanent?

It can be long term or permanent, depending on circumstances and variables in play. It can also be temporary. It depends on usage time and your personality and what you're dealing with blocking your confidence.

ASC 6G will be quite a different beast, but that's not here yet.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - lano1106 - 05-28-2018

I had a failed sexual hook up last weekend. I can get it hard by myself. I can get it hard with regular partners but with this new girl. I couldn't get it hard as I was naked with her in the bed.

This leave me one question. I have been listening DMSI for about a year. So, isn't it suppose to contain a Best possible sexual performance module in it? Why did it not kick in for me when it would have been useful to have it?

Maybe important to mention. It was the first time that I was with a new girl since summer 2017... That might have an influence to the sad outcome...