(10-03-2011, 06:04 AM)Patti Wrote: I started these two subs a week ago. Never using two subs at once, I have some questions. The only reason I’m listening to two is because I had read on the shop page that Housework Motivation works even better with Overcome Procrastination. Since I’m using 2 at one time, should I still listen for 32 days or should it be increased to 64? Also, how should I balance out the play lists? Right now I have them at 4 hours each. Should I keep it that way or switch it up to maybe 5 hours of one and 3 hours of the other?

I love a clean house but hate to clean, hence why I’m using these subs. I plan on moving within the next two years and have accumulated so much stuff that I’m starting to believe I’m a hoarder!!!! I just happen to have a house big enough and so many places to stuff crap away that it may not be noticed. So basically, I have to start purging, cleaning and organizing my whole house. (And I probably have to play a little less words with friends lol) I'm hoping these subs will help in many area's!

On a side note, I seriously think there is something to down time. Down time to me being when we stop listening to a program. I am coming off of listening to Stop Smoking and I can still feel some effects from it. Even though the final effect of completely quitting smoking did not come into fruition yet, there was always something going on in my subconscious. I know it was working because of the resistance, with me that felt like extreme boredom going on in my subconscious. The funniest feeling was when I made the decision to stop listening and move onto others subs, while I’m waiting for the updated version. I felt this over-whelming feeling of excitement within my subconscious, almost at if it thought, YAY we’re gonna be listening to something more fun! And I couldn’t wait to get to bed that night lol. It was very strange having that feeling because it was mine, yet it wasn’t. Like so many others on this forum, things like this are sometimes hard to explain and put into words. It almost felt like I was two entities….very strange. And just as excited as it was to start something new, I felt a sort of disappointment when I started listening to these new subs. As if to say, well these aren’t any more fun than the stop smoking…meh!

But back to down time. Whenever I would miss a night of listening for one reason or the other, I would always notice the next day, the effects being more prominent. So I expected to feel them when I stopped listening this time too, except what I didn’t expect was feeling them when I started listening to other subs. Basically, I would expect these feelings when the full effects have taking place and I quit completely, but not when the sub hasn’t done it’s full job yet. I wonder how long that type of echo experience will last? Effects being when I don’t have a cigarette for hours or while having one, think…I don’t really want this.

But what I’m wondering is, maybe we should be listening for a week and take the weekend off. I don’t know if this has ever been tested but it just feels like the time off makes the effects more noticeable. Maybe leaving our subconscious’s alone in between sessions actually can be more productive.

(10-07-2011, 02:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: Patti, it's okay to listen to those two together. I suggest just making a playlist with them on it as the only songs and then repeat the playlist on loop all night.

When you said you are a hoarder, all sorts of alarms went off in my head, because the hoarder personality is one of the most resistant to change.That certainly explains why the Stop Smoking didn't work. I'll take that into consideration when I make the new version.

(10-07-2011, 09:17 PM)Boromir Wrote:

(10-03-2011, 06:04 AM)Patti Wrote: I started these two subs a week ago. Never using two subs at once, I have some questions. The only reason I’m listening to two is because I had read on the shop page that Housework Motivation works even better with Overcome Procrastination. Since I’m using 2 at one time, should I still listen for 32 days or should it be increased to 64? Also, how should I balance out the play lists? Right now I have them at 4 hours each. Should I keep it that way or switch it up to maybe 5 hours of one and 3 hours of the other?

I love a clean house but hate to clean, hence why I’m using these subs. I plan on moving within the next two years and have accumulated so much stuff that I’m starting to believe I’m a hoarder!!!! I just happen to have a house big enough and so many places to stuff crap away that it may not be noticed. So basically, I have to start purging, cleaning and organizing my whole house. (And I probably have to play a little less words with friends lol) I'm hoping these subs will help in many area's!

On a side note, I seriously think there is something to down time. Down time to me being when we stop listening to a program. I am coming off of listening to Stop Smoking and I can still feel some effects from it. Even though the final effect of completely quitting smoking did not come into fruition yet, there was always something going on in my subconscious. I know it was working because of the resistance, with me that felt like extreme boredom going on in my subconscious. The funniest feeling was when I made the decision to stop listening and move onto others subs, while I’m waiting for the updated version. I felt this over-whelming feeling of excitement within my subconscious, almost at if it thought, YAY we’re gonna be listening to something more fun! And I couldn’t wait to get to bed that night lol. It was very strange having that feeling because it was mine, yet it wasn’t. Like so many others on this forum, things like this are sometimes hard to explain and put into words. It almost felt like I was two entities….very strange. And just as excited as it was to start something new, I felt a sort of disappointment when I started listening to these new subs. As if to say, well these aren’t any more fun than the stop smoking…meh!

But back to down time. Whenever I would miss a night of listening for one reason or the other, I would always notice the next day, the effects being more prominent. So I expected to feel them when I stopped listening this time too, except what I didn’t expect was feeling them when I started listening to other subs. Basically, I would expect these feelings when the full effects have taking place and I quit completely, but not when the sub hasn’t done it’s full job yet. I wonder how long that type of echo experience will last? Effects being when I don’t have a cigarette for hours or while having one, think…I don’t really want this.

But what I’m wondering is, maybe we should be listening for a week and take the weekend off. I don’t know if this has ever been tested but it just feels like the time off makes the effects more noticeable. Maybe leaving our subconscious’s alone in between sessions actually can be more productive.

The echo is what really makes you realize the sub's work, and that is the best part. The motor boat keeps going, and going way after the gas is cut off. After about two years into this now, I am well aware of, MOTOR BOAT, MOTOR BOAT.

(10-10-2011, 06:56 PM)Patti Wrote:

(10-07-2011, 02:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: Patti, it's okay to listen to those two together. I suggest just making a playlist with them on it as the only songs and then repeat the playlist on loop all night.

When you said you are a hoarder, all sorts of alarms went off in my head, because the hoarder personality is one of the most resistant to change.That certainly explains why the Stop Smoking didn't work. I'll take that into consideration when I make the new version.

As far as being a hoarder, mine stems from a more sentimental side of keeping things from my kids that they made me or bought me for way longer than I’ve needed to. Either that or keeping things because someday I’ll use them, but someday never comes. Maybe that type of thinking did in some way hinder the smoking sub. Anything you can think of to put into the updated version, I’m sure will help! Any idea when the culmination of that will come into fruition? (No need to answer if you're in the woods! lol)

(10-13-2011, 03:58 AM)Patti Wrote: I’m having a slight problem and I’m not sure if it’s because of the subs. I’m wondering if anyone else has had the same issue? Since I’ve been listening to the 4g I have difficulty sleeping. I started out not being able to easily fall asleep so I take an all natural sleeping pill that seems to help a little in that area. But I can’t seem to stay asleep. I wake up many times throughout the night and I always wake up in a jolt. I know when we drink alcohol our bodies don’t get quality sleep because it doesn’t allow us to fall into a deep sleep, kind of like it’s just spinning it’s wheels in one place. That’s sort of what I feel like, that I’m not able to fall into a deep sleep. I was so tired on Monday, that I woke up, had coffee and went back to bed to bed to take a nap which I never do. It’s a shame because the subs are working and I’m getting more done but not as much as I would if I were getting enough sleep. My mind is trying to push me to do things but my body is exhausted. Has anyone else had this problem? Does it pass once my minds gets used to the programs? Or can anyone suggest anything to help?

(10-13-2011, 02:12 PM)Patti Wrote: Grrrreeeaaatttt!!!! lol I don’t know Shan, it seems like every time I try to fix one part of myself, I find out something else is broken! **jus’ shaken’ my head* Will my mind, emotions and body eventually blend together and live peacefully as one so I'm not so sleep deprived?? These are the first 4g programs that I’ve used.

(10-13-2011, 03:58 AM)Patti Wrote: I’m having a slight problem and I’m not sure if it’s because of the subs. I’m wondering if anyone else has had the same issue? Since I’ve been listening to the 4g I have difficulty sleeping. I started out not being able to easily fall asleep so I take an all natural sleeping pill that seems to help a little in that area. But I can’t seem to stay asleep. I wake up many times throughout the night and I always wake up in a jolt. I know when we drink alcohol our bodies don’t get quality sleep because it doesn’t allow us to fall into a deep sleep, kind of like it’s just spinning it’s wheels in one place. That’s sort of what I feel like, that I’m not able to fall into a deep sleep.