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Find Your Perfect Job - dweller94 - 09-25-2016
I've wanted to run this for a while, I graduated and haven't been completely focused on searching for a job. A similar scenario was during my studies but thanks to the Improve Grades and Study Habits Subliminal, it turned things around real fast for me.
Will also be posting a review on that subliminal soon.
I feel good about my decision to run this, moving on to the next stage in my life.
It's finally time!
(Start date: 26th September 2016) : (Temporary End date: 26th October 2016)
Stopped for a number of reasons!
RE: Find Your Perfect Job - dweller94 - 10-05-2016
So I have a few things to report:
After uploading my Curriculum Vitae (CV) to a few online recruitment agencies. I have been getting a lot of emails regarding positions, I received quite a bit of praise for my CV but after letting them know I am interested in the roles offered they kind of disappear and I do not hear from them after that.
Initially I was confused on what role exactly I wish to pursue but I had a dream and I was telling a friend in the dream what it is I desire to do so that narrowed it down.
I kind of had a Déjà Vu today when I was speaking to my friend it was almost like a reflection of the dream mentioned above which I had a few days back.
Resistance wise, I feel more motivated and compelled as if it's genuine and from within regarding actually pursuing a role.
The only thing that annoys me is these roles demand enterprise experience, I do not have that but none the less I know that I have the skills and can do what is required. Need to find a way around this, whenever I ask the kind of training that is provided I do not hear from them after that.
Need to update my CV on two recruitment websites and let them know the role I wish to go in to.
I also had a call today about some warehouse job, been there and done that not my thing since I am pursuing a career in IT. When I let the recruitment adviser know he did say to me your "CV is really good and orientated towards that". I was thinking no shit, call me with something relevant next time.
Regarding employers that require professional experience, I found this online:
"Sometimes you just have to say "Yes I do", to get your foot in the door for an interview. If you think you can handle an environment that large, explain it to the interviewer. Worst case scenario leaves you in your current position. When I graduated a few years ago I couldn't find a single IT position that wanted any less than 3 years experience. So I lied to get into the interview, and then told the truth. They gave me 90 days to see if I had what they needed, and now almost 2 years later I've got the experience I was looking for when applying somewhere else. I mean, just because you haven't had to maintain 100+ servers doesn't mean you aren't able to, and I can only imagine that a competent interviewer will understand that. Like I said, you can't really go wrong trying."
RE: Find Your Perfect Job - JamesM - 05-24-2017
Did you stick with this sub? What happened with it? As someone who has been in IT for years in US and despite having tons of acronyms and experience on my resume, I still this same kind of nonsense from HR/recruiter idiots who majored in beer drinking and don't even know what 90% of my resume even means. I'm very interested in whether or not this helped you land a decent paying, stable IT job that doesn't drive you completely insane.
RE: Find Your Perfect Job - dweller94 - 05-24-2017
(05-24-2017, 11:08 AM)JamesM Wrote: Did you stick with this sub? What happened with it? As someone who has been in IT for years in US and despite having tons of acronyms and experience on my resume, I still this same kind of nonsense from HR/recruiter idiots who majored in beer drinking and don't even know what 90% of my resume even means. I'm very interested in whether or not this helped you land a decent paying, stable IT job that doesn't drive you completely insane.
I stopped using the sub due to switching to DMSI now I am back on it since the 3rd of May and want to continue it until I get a job but I just can't land a job, I recently had an interview it goes well then they just disappear the consultants number doesn't even work nor does he reply to his email, I honestly don't even know what to do anymore ?
I could have gotten in to a coding job, but that isn't something I wish to pursue anymore. My aim is to get in to IT Support, right now I'd take anything that's how desperate I am. I would be broke but have been getting by due to things I do on the side (buying/selling) but it's so hard without real experience to get an IT job. I am currently doing my Comptia certification with a company that has agreed that once I pass my exams they'll place me somewhere it's an IT Technician role this was my backup but it looks like I'll have to complete this and get in to it.
The sub is very interesting, my idea IT role would be a sys admin / network engineer. I get recommendations via email and consultants directly contacting me with the exact kind of roles I wish to get in to but I don't have any experience so it doesn't go anywhere. What am I supposed to do?
Like you said these recruitment idiots don't know what's going on : /
You said you have tons of acronyms/experience on your resume, what are you currently doing / want to do?
RE: Find Your Perfect Job - JamesM - 05-24-2017
My experience is that this same kind of runaround never ends. I have tons of Microsoft, Cisco and CompTIA certifications and they don't help nearly as much as you'd think. My experience is that recruiters/HR will look for all kinds of reasons why you don't fit the job description based on their (very) limited understanding of what each job is supposed to be. Triply so if you are white with a penis. Once you have some experience you need more experience, or experience at a higher level, or instead of being a Windows admin you're going to the Windows admin, database admin, a developer and tier 3 helpdesk for 80% of the salary of one of those jobs. But if you take a lower level job for the money, then you get defined down as someone who is only able to do low level work and opportunities that should be there with your "experience" simply aren't. The IT job market in the US has completely gone to crap over the last 10 years. 10 years ago I was turning my nose up at 55,000 USD/year and now can't find a stable job at 35k with a much stronger resume.
If you're willing to take a low enough wage you'll eventually find a help desk job, but I'm not really interested in taking a high stress job with non-technical people breathing down my neck all day for $10-12/hr. Or even $22 for that matter. Every gray hair I have (I'm only 34) is a result of a horrible help desk job at Honda R&D that only lasted 3.5 months.
Some people I know who are developers tend to do better, but not great money with cheap labor being constantly imported. I tried programming in high school and college and found that it's not for me, but if you're good at it there is money to be made. Actually, I'd recommend going into making adult PC games if you ever want to code, as the indy market for that is quite strong and growing.
I've largely given up on ever getting another IT job and have been doing consulting for people looking to move offshore and maintain privacy, not pay taxes and provide solutions to make it happen discreetly and affordably. Since I'm not a lawyer and will, "for entertainment purposes only" as the legal disclaimer goes, answer questions like "how can I make sure the US government doesn't find about x" or "what do I do so all of the company's profits go into my hookers and blow account" and make introductions to make it happen. I also do freelance Japanese to English translations and write novels.
It sounds more glorious than it really is. In reality I've been hanging on by a thread for awhile. As for what I'm going to do long term, enough bad things have happened to me in life that I've come to the conclusion being happy and having no unnecessary stress is more important to me than an extra 20 or 30k USD per year. I'm thinking of getting into truck driving for a few years, saving all of the money I make, then taking some time to travel to Costa Rica, Colombia and Thailand to decide which country I'd rather live in. Hopefully along the way I'll have built enough regular income from translating. writing and other things on the drawing board to be able to live in a tropical paradise and have the option of paying hot chicks to leave when I don't feel like going to clubs to pick them up.
I also came up with a betting pattern that should yield a modest return long term on baccarat (or more accurately, I put the data into one of my workstations and it ran calculations for a few months). Unfortunately I need a few thousand dollars I don't have right now to properly test it in a casino before declaring victory.
That was more long-winded than I intended but I think it answers all of your questions.
RE: Find Your Perfect Job - dweller94 - 05-26-2017
(05-24-2017, 03:07 PM)JamesM Wrote: My experience is that this same kind of runaround never ends. I have tons of Microsoft, Cisco and CompTIA certifications and they don't help nearly as much as you'd think. My experience is that recruiters/HR will look for all kinds of reasons why you don't fit the job description based on their (very) limited understanding of what each job is supposed to be. Triply so if you are white with a penis. Once you have some experience you need more experience, or experience at a higher level, or instead of being a Windows admin you're going to the Windows admin, database admin, a developer and tier 3 helpdesk for 80% of the salary of one of those jobs. But if you take a lower level job for the money, then you get defined down as someone who is only able to do low level work and opportunities that should be there with your "experience" simply aren't. The IT job market in the US has completely gone to crap over the last 10 years. 10 years ago I was turning my nose up at 55,000 USD/year and now can't find a stable job at 35k with a much stronger resume.
If you're willing to take a low enough wage you'll eventually find a help desk job, but I'm not really interested in taking a high stress job with non-technical people breathing down my neck all day for $10-12/hr. Or even $22 for that matter. Every gray hair I have (I'm only 34) is a result of a horrible help desk job at Honda R&D that only lasted 3.5 months.
Some people I know who are developers tend to do better, but not great money with cheap labor being constantly imported. I tried programming in high school and college and found that it's not for me, but if you're good at it there is money to be made. Actually, I'd recommend going into making adult PC games if you ever want to code, as the indy market for that is quite strong and growing.
I've largely given up on ever getting another IT job and have been doing consulting for people looking to move offshore and maintain privacy, not pay taxes and provide solutions to make it happen discreetly and affordably. Since I'm not a lawyer and will, "for entertainment purposes only" as the legal disclaimer goes, answer questions like "how can I make sure the US government doesn't find about x" or "what do I do so all of the company's profits go into my hookers and blow account" and make introductions to make it happen. I also do freelance Japanese to English translations and write novels.
It sounds more glorious than it really is. In reality I've been hanging on by a thread for awhile. As for what I'm going to do long term, enough bad things have happened to me in life that I've come to the conclusion being happy and having no unnecessary stress is more important to me than an extra 20 or 30k USD per year. I'm thinking of getting into truck driving for a few years, saving all of the money I make, then taking some time to travel to Costa Rica, Colombia and Thailand to decide which country I'd rather live in. Hopefully along the way I'll have built enough regular income from translating. writing and other things on the drawing board to be able to live in a tropical paradise and have the option of paying hot chicks to leave when I don't feel like going to clubs to pick them up.
I also came up with a betting pattern that should yield a modest return long term on baccarat (or more accurately, I put the data into one of my workstations and it ran calculations for a few months). Unfortunately I need a few thousand dollars I don't have right now to properly test it in a casino before declaring victory.
That was more long-winded than I intended but I think it answers all of your questions.
Appreciate the detailed response.
I'm going to quit AYPJ as of now, don't even know what's happening anymore. Like you said they look to find why I don't fit the job description, it makes sense, I really hate when consultants don't even bother to ring or give feedback, at least let me the f*ck know I haven't been chosen. I think you'd do well on this sub given your experience as well as the certifications you have, but if the perfect job for you isn't in IT well then I don't know really. Help desk sounds like a pain in the a*s, I am hearing the IT field is expanding, I'm from the UK myself and the IT job market ain't bad here but still can't seem to get in to what I want. I can go in to development, but started to hate it during my final year of study lol
Making 55,000USD/year 10 years ago sounds real good man, how did that f*ck up, it should increase, not the other way around?
Good luck with your other stuff, don't give up on IT though especially with your experience, I know I could go a long way with it, I may jump on Luck Magnified it really helps all-round. I never do it for long enough to really see its power though.
Regarding the SUB:
I have been having reoccurring dreams which are starting to drive me insane, it's basically me back in the final year of studies going through my reassessments where I was failed in one of my units due to some bullsh*t issues I had with my tutor during this period I was running back and forth to uni trying to sort it all out, to cut it short it was a very stressful period for me and I am reliving this in my dreams every night to be fair almost every day for almost 3 weeks now wtf does this mean, that sh*t is long gone and done I don't want to be reminded of what happened let alone relive that during my sleep every night, f*ck this.
I also keep mentioning that I am doing my certification in my dream to random people that are asking me questions, I feel it's a strong indication from my subconscious to complete it, I haven't done any work towards it for the past 3 days.
IT is what I enjoy I mean I can go down a different path, right now I don't even know.. I guess it'll make sense eventually, but the time I lose, it's gone.
RE: Find Your Perfect Job - JamesM - 05-27-2017
(05-26-2017, 08:14 PM)dweller94 Wrote: Making 55,000USD/year 10 years ago sounds real good man, how did that f*ck up, it should increase, not the other way around?
That is what you would think. Unfortunately, lots of bad things have happened since then. At least in the US it has become possible to import cheap labor from India and other places on "temporary" visas that get extended forever, so tons of jobs don't even get listed for native citizens. Even when they do, wages have been consistently going down for everything I can do (primarily Windows administration and training). Other laws have made it more expensive to hire people full time, so lots of jobs are either part time or temporary. I've seen wages fall a lot, especially in help desk. Why anyone would want the stress of a help desk job for similar pay to being a meathead in a warehouse with relatively little stress I can't say ("you, move those boxes" is like a day off compared to most of what I've encountered in IT).
I also opted to be a trainer when I had the opportunity, which gave me the responsibility for being the entire IT department for decent sized environment on top of being immersed in the technical details of everything I teach all day, and genius recruiters come to the conclusion that this somehow has a completely different skillset to everything else in IT. I figured that if I was getting offers of 55k with almost no experience I already have it made, and that sure didn't last. When I go through job ads today the jobs and the money just aren't there like they were 10 years ago. Then if you've been unemployed for more than a couple months under these ridiculous conditions they throw that back in your face like you're obviously useless if some other dumbass who doesn't understand your resume either doesn't hire you.
What really gets me is that I interviewed for a recruiter job once, thinking an agency might appreciate having someone who actually understands the resumes taking a look at them and matching them to work they can do. Before I got two sentences in the guy interviewing me cut me off and wanted to know what kind of experience I had in sales. And I suddenly understood why so many of these douchebags did nothing but waste my time. As for why sales experience would be beneficial to finding people who can do technical work, I did not got a satisfactory, or even comprehensible, answer to that.
I can't say you won't make it, I can't say the potential for having a good career if you actually find a stable job isn't there, but I can't tell you that you'll have it made as soon as you land your first job and get some experience on your resume either. I know training companies make it seem like being in IT is a land of milk and honey with endless prosperity for all. You can spin and warp enough statistics to make it appear that way, but it hasn't worked out like that for me or the vast majority of people I've known in IT. Most people I still talk with have changed careers.