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Random sub adventures - Sub of the day: DMSI 3.3.2 - hsindermann - 08-25-2016
... but more like a sporadically updated log of my observations on DMSI.
I've been running DMSI for a good three weeks consistently now - first V2.2 (mostly 3 loops back to back as suggested, sometimes only managed 2 loops) and then jumped on V2.3 (mostly 4 loops as indicated by Shannon to be 2nd place in effectiveness) when it came out some days ago. Most of the time I've used the masked tracks, running the loops in the evening before jumping off into bed.
As for my observations:
- As others have reported before my porn use has dropped to almost zero. This is pretty awesome, as I was watching porn pretty much on a daily basis for many years. Tried a sub by a different company before, but that did not do much. DMSI helped without it even advertising so.
- Masturbation has also dropped a lot - not as much as porn use, but to maybe once or twice a week now. And hey, emptying the balls every now and then has actually been proven to be very healthy (I've read it's the only thing known to definitely drop the likelyhood of getting prostate cancer - 'taking the old trash out' apparently helps).
- I've held a grudge towards a certain woman for quite a long time now - over a year. This has cleared up pretty much completely - all negative feelings towards her are gone. Very liberating, as she's a colleague and I'm seeing her almost daily. Also, the negative feelings very actually very unjust from my side, but that's a different story...
- Overall I feel it has improved my confidence and 'forwardness'. I feel my voice is clearer and louder. Also it seems to have helped me socialising a bit more - I'm more likely to start conversations or to keep them going than I have before.
Most of the above I guess can be attributed to the parts in V2.2 that have been taken out in V2.3 again - not entirely sure though. But overall in terms of internal changes DMSI has helped me improve nicely. Certainly still room for more improvement, but it's a great start.
As for the more outward experiences in terms of IOIs and the likes... Both versions were delivering very inconsistent results. Over the three or so weeks of using them, I've had 2 days when I've seen very obvious results that it's working (once with V2.2, once with V2.3) - extremely clear IOIs, strange women in the subway even touching me repeatedly (which is very much out of the ordinary), nice displays of cleavage, biiiig smiles and stares (pretty much never happened to me before), strange women just randomly saying hi on the streets. These days were truely awesome and what I'd want DMSI to deliver every day pretty please!
Maybe as a comparison: I've been playing around with pheromones for over 10 years now, and I have never once seen results like this with any of the 20+ products I've tried (maybe AV came near, but that is even more inconsistent).Then there were a few more days when it kinda seemed to work, but in a way more subtle way - maybe here or there a bit longer look or a little smile. Nothing to go crazy about.
On most days though it seemed to not do anything unfortunately. Actually it sometimes rather felt like being invisible - at least to strangers - much like the ghosting effect that sometimes happens on mones. But honestly that might also have to do with me experiencing those 2 awesome days, and internally comparing my days now to those when it worked very nicely. These days just hyped up my expectations a lot. Maybe the contrast just makes it seem like ghosting, while things are as they would have been normally without any DMSI at all (I'm living in a big city - ca. 4 million people here. In crowded places like these most people are like ghosts in a way).
I've had a couple of ideas of where the difference might come from, but most of these ideas I've dropped already again:
- First idea was number of loops listened to, but this was actually very consistent over the whole time - awesome days had the same number of loops the night before as dud days.
- Time since last masturbation (thought the 'sexual energy' might play a role in aura building): Haven't touched Johnny since Saturday. Had one of the awesome days on monday (since when are mondays awesome?
), so 2-3 days without masturbating, now it's thursday, and all days since monday have been mostly duds. So this theory went out the window as well.- Food intake: Pretty consistent eating of too much food here, so seems very unlikely.
The only thing I noticed is that the awesome days were both times pretty early in. For V2.3 it was the first day after my very first run, before which I had taken 2 days break (between V2.2 and V2.3 - I know, not enough to be a truely valid tester here). The awesome day on V2.2 was also pretty early in. It seems the whole aura thing for me does not seem to work anymore with repeated use!? Question is why - is it aura overload, can there be too much of that? Does it need a break and cannot be kept up all the time? *shrugs*
I think I'll experiment a bit with taking a break from the sub. Maybe again a 2 day break, then running 4 loops again and will see how it works that day then. If it works fine then, I'll see if I can keep it up by limiting the number of loops to one or two per day, instead of continuing with 4. Or will see if a day on, a day off will work.
Almost forgot: As mentioned I mostly listen to the sub in the late evening before going to bed. Best results I always got I'd say 16 to 20 hours later, so next day's early to late afternoon. In the mornings I've rarely seen much, but that might just be other people being in a different mode in the morning mostly on the way to work, than they are later in the day.
For me the perfect DMSI would be one that would continue to work on my internals as apparently V2.2 has done. And at the same time delivers outward results as those 2 awesome days in a consistent way.
I know the promise of the sub was that women would approach me, which in the male interpretation of the word 'approaching' doesn't really seem to be happening. I doubt it ever will though, as most women's social programming simply will not make them do that. Also - honestly - it's still the man's job to do the real approaching, and that's fine IMO. As far as I can see it, very obvious IOIs as witnessed a few times by me is pretty much the maximum of what most women will do (of course there's a few exceptions out there).
Also - and not sure if the ones hoping for 'real approaching' have thought of that - the aura will attract pretty much everyone who's got an interest in your gender. That includes women who I find decidedly unattractive, way too old, way too young and also homosexual men (I've had very clear IOIs from all of those). Seeing that I'd only be interested in a very small fraction of all those that would potentially be attracted to the aura... would I really want to be approached by all those people, having to batch-reject them continuously? Personally I'd rather get nice invitations instead and then act on those of girls that I like.
Anyways, so much for my experiences so far. DMSI has shown that it can do what it's supposed to - it just needs to get that consistency thing going...
Thanks a lot Shannon for all the effort in developing this! I hope you keep improving it
Cheers,
HS
PS: Only noticed after posting that this is like 3 miles long...
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - Shannon - 08-25-2016
But it's useful info.
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - hsindermann - 08-26-2016
Got better effects today from the ladies than I had over the last days. Not perfect, but better. Thing is, I've limited myself to only 2 loops yesterday evening instead of my usual 4. Might be coincidence, or maybe there is indeed a dosing issue. Maybe 4 or 7 loops is perfect for the initial run, but too much afterwards and kinda burns out the aura? Could this sub need a subliminal fuse built in?
Will test more over the next days...
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - hsindermann - 09-08-2016
Day 5 on V2.4
I have to say of the versions I've tried this is currently the most disappointing one to me. First 2 days I ran the sub (masked track, 4 to 5 loops) I was actually starting to doubt that there was anything on the track at all. Felt going back to my baseline behaviour slowly - lost some of the added confidence etc that came with V2.2 mainly - and no out of the ordinary reactions from other people at all. Also felt nothing while running the sub. Anybody also noticed: On V2.2 and 2.3 I could hear faint voices behind the trickling stream quite a bit, with V2.4 I don't hear anything other than the stream anymore.
Last two days were a bit better in terms of 'inner game' so to say - some of the added confidence came back. Might have been just coincidence though. But still I have to see anything out of the ordinary from other folks.
V2.2 and 2.3 were quite inconsistent for me, but they still showed promising results from time to time. V2.4 feels almost like a complete dud till now.
I'll of course give it a longer time, it's just been 5 days. But was hoping for improvement, so far got the opposite.
Cheers
HS
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - 4Kingdoms - 09-09-2016
(09-08-2016, 11:03 PM)hsindermann Wrote: Day 5 on V2.4
I have to say of the versions I've tried this is currently the most disappointing one to me. First 2 days I ran the sub (masked track, 4 to 5 loops) I was actually starting to doubt that there was anything on the track at all. Felt going back to my baseline behaviour slowly - lost some of the added confidence etc that came with V2.2 mainly - and no out of the ordinary reactions from other people at all. Also felt nothing while running the sub. Anybody also noticed: On V2.2 and 2.3 I could hear faint voices behind the trickling stream quite a bit, with V2.4 I don't hear anything other than the stream anymore.
Some 2.4 listener's have described this as being "smooth". "2.4 is a lot smoother."
(09-08-2016, 11:03 PM)hsindermann Wrote: Last two days were a bit better in terms of 'inner game' so to say - some of the added confidence came back. Might have been just coincidence though. But still I have to see anything out of the ordinary from other folks.
V2.2 and 2.3 were quite inconsistent for me, but they still showed promising results from time to time. V2.4 feels almost like a complete dud till now.
I'll of course give it a longer time, it's just been 5 days. But was hoping for improvement, so far got the opposite.
Cheers
HS
People actually thought ASC may have been added to the DMSI script.
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7535-post-130907.html#pid130907
(09-08-2016, 09:57 PM)Shannon Wrote:(09-08-2016, 11:21 AM)thor2014 Wrote: I think the absolute confidence subliminal has been added to the DMSI which probably explains why some users are experiencing feeling confident. So if the aura does not work at least you get the confidence boost and the healing.
ASC is not in DMSI.
Inner Game
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7537-post-130811.html#pid130811
(09-08-2016, 05:30 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:(09-08-2016, 12:32 AM)kenpachi Wrote: I'm walking around with a big stupid smile on my face. I love this sub. Seriously.
It's like a dissolver of social anxiety.
I walk around looking tense normally, not smiling, defensive. My IOIs have been great now. I can barely look up without a hotty catching my eye and grinning.
I can't be bothered to report properly. I'm just ***** happy man.
The aura is great. Burning palms is how you know the shit's working. Burning chest, red face and hot breath is how you know it's REALLY working. I haven't had that yet, but I'm hopeful given time.
2.4 feels like a drastic change to 2.3. I would listen to this one without the aura just for everything else.
No lie -- on my way to run some errands this morning, I literally thought about asking Shannon if he's thinking of releasing a version without the aura because the self effects are that good.
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - hsindermann - 09-09-2016
Maybe you've misinterpreted what I've written - I meant in V2.3 and 2.2 I can hear the actual sub behind the masking track. In the new V I cannot. Just an observation. Not saying there is nothing
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - 4Kingdoms - 09-09-2016
(09-09-2016, 08:04 AM)hsindermann Wrote: Maybe you've misinterpreted what I've written - I meant in V2.3 and 2.2 I can hear the actual sub behind the masking track. In the new V I cannot. Just an observation. Not saying there is nothing
I understood what you wrote perfectly. All I'm saying is people noticed the same thing you did!! They just used different words to describe what they heard.
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - RTBoss - 09-09-2016
(09-09-2016, 08:04 AM)hsindermann Wrote: Maybe you've misinterpreted what I've written - I meant in V2.3 and 2.2 I can hear the actual sub behind the masking track. In the new V I cannot. Just an observation. Not saying there is nothing
I can hear the muffled voices under the V2.4 trickling stream just fine. I wear sleep phone knock-offs (cozy phones) and whenever I lay on my side, it presses that earphone against my ear.
I use the .FLAC version.
Make sure your files weren't corrupted when you downloaded them by matching MD5sum hashtags with the ones Shannon posted in his journal. You can also download the .txt file that has the MD5sum hashtags.
Also, you could try switching up to listening to the ultrasonic track on speakers if you're able to - without exposing others.
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - hsindermann - 09-09-2016
@4Kingdoms: Okay, could not find a connection between that and 'smoothness'
@RTBoss: Checked again the md5sums - all fine. Guess I'm just going nuts. Or deaf. Or both.
Anyway, will keep going for a while and hope that V2.4 will start working - today's been another day of nothing to report unfortunately.
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - DisneylandUSA - 09-10-2016
(09-09-2016, 08:25 AM)RTBoss Wrote:(09-09-2016, 08:04 AM)hsindermann Wrote: Maybe you've misinterpreted what I've written - I meant in V2.3 and 2.2 I can hear the actual sub behind the masking track. In the new V I cannot. Just an observation. Not saying there is nothing
I can hear the muffled voices under the V2.4 trickling stream just fine. I wear sleep phone knock-offs (cozy phones) and whenever I lay on my side, it presses that earphone against my ear.
I use the .FLAC version.
Make sure your files weren't corrupted when you downloaded them by matching MD5sum hashtags with the ones Shannon posted in his journal. You can also download the .txt file that has the MD5sum hashtags.
Also, you could try switching up to listening to the ultrasonic track on speakers if you're able to - without exposing others.
Muffled voices on V 2.4 ? Interesting. Please, let Shannon and the forum know of this. It will be helpful to DMSI improvements. 
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - RTBoss - 09-10-2016
(09-10-2016, 08:06 AM)DisneylandUSA Wrote:(09-09-2016, 08:25 AM)RTBoss Wrote:(09-09-2016, 08:04 AM)hsindermann Wrote: Maybe you've misinterpreted what I've written - I meant in V2.3 and 2.2 I can hear the actual sub behind the masking track. In the new V I cannot. Just an observation. Not saying there is nothing
I can hear the muffled voices under the V2.4 trickling stream just fine. I wear sleep phone knock-offs (cozy phones) and whenever I lay on my side, it presses that earphone against my ear.
I use the .FLAC version.
Make sure your files weren't corrupted when you downloaded them by matching MD5sum hashtags with the ones Shannon posted in his journal. You can also download the .txt file that has the MD5sum hashtags.
Also, you could try switching up to listening to the ultrasonic track on speakers if you're able to - without exposing others.
This is common on all masked tracks of every subliminal program, from my experience. It's not abnormal.
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - chaosvrgn - 09-10-2016
Yeah, I can hear the voices too. Never been a problem with the program's effectiveness, though. And eventually, you begin to just ignore them.
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - hsindermann - 09-10-2016
Day 7 on V2.4
Okay, apparently I just had to complain.
It's really strange, I indeed did not hear the faint voices in the background anymore, making me think there might have been nothing on the track. I remember putting my ears against the speakers to check - did not hear them. Now suddenly, I can hear them again. Is is possible this is some weird kind of resistance as well - my mind playing tricks on me, making me think there is nothing and through that trying to make me stop listening? Weird...At the same time now I can feel that there's inner changes happening again, but in a (and here I have to agree to the description mentioned by 4Kingdoms) smooth way. I cannot even really describe what I feel changing - I feel something's happening, but cannot put my fingers on it. Dreams are coming back. I usually cannot remember me dreaming at night - I only do when a sub is running that's causing changes in the background. I also started remembering occasions long forgotten, when I was totally messing up with a girl or failed to make a move - like last night remembered one occasion from... 10 years ago? Only met her once in my life on a party, we left together early, were getting along perfectly, aaand... me was stupid enough to board a different train home, did not even ask for a number. Pffff... would not happen anymore today!
No clear sign of an aura building still, but I've gotten my faith back that it's doing it's thing.
RE: DMSI - This is not a journal... - chaosvrgn - 09-11-2016
(09-10-2016, 10:19 PM)hsindermann Wrote: Day 7 on V2.4
Okay, apparently I just had to complain.
No, that's probably the audio to silence ratio technology. If I'm understanding it correctly, there are periods of silence built into the audio to allow the brain to process the subliminal without overloading. There's a gap of silence in both the masked and ultrasonic versions (that I've noticed, might be more) around the center of the loop.