(07-14-2016, 02:05 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

I had a question about a stumbling block. Maybe when I start the v2.2 it will help but I thought I would mention this to get your input.

In the past, I have seen very high attraction signs from women when I talk with them such as sex flush in her face, chest, and neck; dilated pupils; enthusiastic engagement during interactions; and sometimes even girlfanning. (You'd think they were talking with their favorite celebrity.)

Then it comes time for the number. She won't give it. Or she does, but she won't text me back. Or we set up a time to meet, and she doesn't show. That one area... progressing it to the next level... I'm stuck! It's been my bane for 3+ years.

So the general theme is that in the moment, they are hot. But then when it comes time to progress, she slams on the brakes. Every thing is great, until I want to take it further. Some people have said “They're not that into you.” So she has a sex flush and she's not that into me?! Hmmmm....

I'm a big believer in being active and learning. I've done 30+ years of personal development. Seminars. Coaching. Hypnosis. Reading. Overcame many obstacles. Succeeded in a number of areas. Have a high popularity with friends. I've even had a dating life that many of my friends were jealous of. But for the last 3 years, I just can't seem to get any where with women sexually. No, there has been no significant event that I can identify. No, I'm not "doing things differently that before". It's just like one day it was great, then the next day “poof” gone. I'm insightful and yet I've no explanation. It's humbling and embarrassing because I'm used to being the one with all the answers that others seek me out.

Is there anything in the program that should help me over come this?

Also any input you have, subliminal wise, life wise, woman wise, I would love to have it.

(07-14-2016, 04:04 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

After a meal to help me think more clearly, here are some of my thoughts.

“If there is some sort of subconscious block for you, 2.2 will get you past it, given enough use. It will also get your subconscious to help you achieve the goals of the program.”

Yes, it is VERY possible it is unconscious because I am stumped and that to me almost always suggests the problem is unconscious.

“Woman wise, what I think is going on for you is that one of two possibilities exist.”

“1. You're misinterpreting signals.”

Possible, but unlikely.

“2. There is something you're doing wrong after interesting them enough to give you signals.”

Much more possible, and I would say fairly likely. See below.

“Of course I don't have enough information to say beyond that, but one or both of those two seems likely as an explanation to me. Females are tricksy. They don't always make sense from a logical point of view. Logic says, "If X and Y then Z." Chick logic says, "Q! No, B! No, M! No, U!"”

That makes perfect sense. Perhaps I would go so far as to say I'm being too logical and doing something wrong because I'm being logical.

“You are trying to understand an illogical creature with logic. The only logical way to do that is to understand that illogical creatures do what makes no logical sense! “

Okay, Shannon. This next paragraphs I promise are my clumsy, inarticulate way of trying to sincerely further understand: given that they are illogical creatures and do what makes no logical sense, what am I supposed to do? Act unpredictable? Act emotional? Ask them out and then take it back immediately? Tell them I'd love to go out with them but I can't?

Also, what does your model say about handling chick logic in such a way they act in such a way to fulfill this goals of DSMI?

(07-14-2016, 04:04 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,

After a meal to help me think more clearly, here are some of my thoughts.

“If there is some sort of subconscious block for you, 2.2 will get you past it, given enough use. It will also get your subconscious to help you achieve the goals of the program.”

Yes, it is VERY possible it is unconscious because I am stumped and that to me almost always suggests the problem is unconscious.

“Woman wise, what I think is going on for you is that one of two possibilities exist.”

“1. You're misinterpreting signals.”

Possible, but unlikely.

“2. There is something you're doing wrong after interesting them enough to give you signals.”

Much more possible, and I would say fairly likely. See below.

“Of course I don't have enough information to say beyond that, but one or both of those two seems likely as an explanation to me. Females are tricksy. They don't always make sense from a logical point of view. Logic says, "If X and Y then Z." Chick logic says, "Q! No, B! No, M! No, U!"”

That makes perfect sense. Perhaps I would go so far as to say I'm being too logical and doing something wrong because I'm being logical.

“You are trying to understand an illogical creature with logic. The only logical way to do that is to understand that illogical creatures do what makes no logical sense! “

Okay, Shannon. This next paragraphs I promise are my clumsy, inarticulate way of trying to sincerely further understand: given that they are illogical creatures and do what makes no logical sense, what am I supposed to do? Act unpredictable? Act emotional? Ask them out and then take it back immediately? Tell them I'd love to go out with them but I can't?

Also, what does your model say about handling chick logic in such a way they act in such a way to fulfill this goals of DSMI?

Quote:If no matter what I do trying to please her, I am doing something wrong, then I will please myself and ignore what she thinks and wants. This will piss off the ones I am not compatible, and attract the ones I am compatible with, and either way, I no longer give a fuck.