(06-12-2015, 01:05 AM)CatMan Wrote: EHPRA is 5G. Scripts of 5G are proprietary and not released.

(06-12-2015, 04:44 AM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(06-12-2015, 01:05 AM)CatMan Wrote: EHPRA is 5G. Scripts of 5G are proprietary and not released.

oh thank you I didn't realise that. I'm new here and from most people's advice this is probably the first subliminal ill be trying put *gulp* lol

May I ask you CatMan do you know whether LTU is as powerful as the individual subliminal programs in it or is it perhaps only 70-90% as strong and so better to simply listen to the individual subliminals such as EPHRA or ASC? I ask because as I'm new here and reading journals and building my confidence in these subliminals working, im lost why all don't start with LTU if it really is as strong as individual subs since its cheaper and has them all inside them (well all foundational ones such as Positive Thinking & ASC & EPRHA etc)

thanks

(06-19-2015, 06:29 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: Hey CatMan thanks for getting back to me and no problem mate I understand. I'm just glad you replied and ofcourse I'm very grateful for your time too

Yeh I've been in and out of the glossary and yet feel little lost as to what all the technology are since I realise Shannon can't got into great detail but what I understand is that their unique ways to script things to compliment and enhance the basic scripting right? either way your explanation has done the job for me and made me realise how amazing LTU must really be now as well as ASC and EPRHA ofcourse.

I'm definitely going to start with EPRHA now mate and wow 192 days is the 6months of 32 days right? will that really be enough or will I or should I need to do it for a year?

If I do it for 192days when should I see or notice any results by day 190? or 100?

thanks I just checked out sleephones on amazon.co.uk (I'm from uk) and there seem to be many different types could you kindly send me a link of the ones you use or are suggesting to me?

I can't use ultrasonic if I use these so are you suggesting I use a masked track at a reasonable volume and try to sleep? is sleep possible?lol

I was planning on buying some Bluetooth headphones (on the ear types not those in ear buds or those that wrap behind the ears like hooks but proper real headphones that sit directly on the ear and go over the top of the head) and wondering if you think that's a good idea too?

so 8 hrs with headphones will be best basically or with sleephones?

again thanks alot mate can I ask what you got from ASC that you noticed that convinced you as I'm asking simply to gain more hope and trust. I've tried so many subliminals hypnosis cds and hypnotherapy cds and nothing ever worked.

what made you not wanna do EPRHA? and instead go to AM?

my goal was to build the strongest and best (literally the greatest) foundation I could such as EPHRA ASC LTU OGSF OF and others such as Positive Thinking & Attitude, Procrastination, motivation etc so that then I could add on what my next goals would be which is AM or women but work career weightloss and wealth so any advice?

thanks again mate. I've no idea what you meant by "welcome to vanchester" lol but thank you haha

ps I did see scripts for other 5G programs on the scripts page but not for EPHRA any ideas why? it's not a biggie either way since I'm gonna start with it 1 way or the other

Also do you recommend 192 days for all non 6 stage programs? why?

I know there's a new version of EPRHA soon to be out. Do you think it'll be any good?

(06-19-2015, 09:31 PM)CatMan Wrote: I appreciate that, I look outside of my journal each day to try to post to help others.

In a simple sense, yes they improve the program, each of them do it in different ways. It isn't really important for success to know HOW they do what they do, as they bypass the conscious mind anyway. It's more important to use the latest version possible generally, and make sure you get consistent, daily use as much as possible, especially with headphones, and keep a very detailed daily journal, offline if you prefer, of everything including thoughts, daydreams, night dreams, the lot mate. The more info you have of your daily goings-on, the more of an accurate picture you have of you changing. Programs that use the Naturaliser and Slipstream are particularily sneaky about how they change you. And oftentimes, if you don't keep proper daily records, they're so effective at changing you while bypassing resistance, that they make you feel you've always been this way...thus your conscious mind will conclude using logic, that it means the sub failed and you didn't change at all. So you see, if you don't document properly, you can very well have the phenomenon of Shannon's subs working TOO well lol. There's stories of this happening during his Stop Smoking Forever! program, people claiming it failed for them, and they were going to quit anyway etc.

EHPRA is recommended for use for 192 days, that's 6 periods of 32 days. Whether it will be enough is impossible to tell, everyone is different. I WILL say...that you have stuff inside you, that you've either forgotten about consciously, or stuff you don't even know of period, guiding you and making you do and feel things in ways you can't even imagine. EHPRA will start dislodging it and bringing it to the surface to deal with and get rid of over time. How long it takes is unique for each person. Resist the temptation to stop early, most do that with EHPRA when it's clear they aren't done doing garbage removal with EHPRA. They go on to something else, living in denial about where they're at, and fail. Don't be like them, use for at least the full 192 days and then evaluate. You can see results the first day or night, or it may take a few days. Again, everyone is different. Some of this can be helped by how many hours you listen (up to 21 hours per day MAX) and using headphones for more potency.

Here's the link for the sleephones I use: http://www.sleepphones.com/SleepPhones-Wireless. "Official bedtime headphones provider of CatMan" Lol! Seriously, make sure to measure yourself properly BEFORE ORDERING to get the right size! I agree there's lots of different models now, the one I use is excellent. I always recommend headphones use only, the difference is big for me, and no small part of my success, no doubt! Stick to Sleephones for night time bed use, as they're designed for bed use and are very comfortable and secure and won't fall off. And over the ear headphones can be fine for during the day use if you can listen during the day like me.

Use the masked track for bed or whenever using headphones, yes. It's VERY peaceful after awhile, and you sleep very well. I recommend the stream during the night, as it's a constant sound I find easier to relax with, rather than the up and down of the waves. The louder parts are always forcing me to wake up slightly out of fear of a wave crashing against me any second haha!

8 hours of headphones won't be best, in fact it'll be the BARE minimum. I just wanted to make that clear. I think a lot of guys look at the hours Shannon says to use, they see 8 hours minimum, filter out the word "minimum", and then get disappointed at the end that they didn't get as much out of the program as they wanted. Just remember, your brain has had terrible thinking styles, views, beliefs, and emotional pain that has had 20+ years in many cases to grow and strengthen. These subs are very strong, but they need hours and repetitions to be effective, the more the merrier, up to 21 hours per day MAX. So, if you can find a way to get a couple hours more of listening time with headphones each day, that will make a big difference. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if a guy is FIRMLY committed to changing his life, he can find 12 hours a day for this program, absolutely. 8 hours for sleep, that leaves 4 hours here and there during the day, pausing the program at a certain point, then starting it up right at the second you paused it, finding time during the day. 24 hours in a day, 8 hours for sleep, 8 hours for work, that leaves 8 hours for misc...make sure 4 of them are with the headphones on for the stream or waves going, and you'll be thanking me for pushing you in 192 days...

I never tried subliminals before ASC. I thought they were nonsense. I tried them only out of desperation to be honest...PUA and all that crap didn't work. ASC gave me exactly that, confidence around girls, and I felt less anxious around girls. I've had some bad experiences with them very early in life that damaged me with them, so I knew that area of my life would prove most difficult to fix. After ASC finally gave me some results, I jumped onto AM6 after my 33rd day of ASC. I chose AM6 because AM6 has a truncated version of EHPRA in it anyway, so I would be getting EHPRA as well as AM6 at the same time, as well as other AM6 goodies like OGSF and STC. I listed the hours listened to the subs in my bio, if you want to take a look.

EHPRA is a good start, and the price is right. Plus, it's best to start with a single stage to get into the habit of listening everyday as a regimen etc., getting used to how many hours a day you can handle etc., rather than jumping in too early to a massive six stage program and failing. Also, the new EHPRA 2.0 coming out in the next month or two will have Positive Thinking, Positive Attitude, amongst other incredible changes. My advice is, use the free EHPRA for now, get your results, and when the new version is released, get that and use it. It's shaping up to be an amazing program, alot of powerful add-ons to it. Don't worry about LTU IMO, once you're done with EHPRA you'll likely want to move onto AM and there won't be much for you in LTU by then.

I saw in earlier posts you were from Manchester. I'm a Manchester United fan. "Welcome to Vanchester" is a slogan they used when a world reknowned manager came to Manchester to run United now. His name is Louis Van Gaal, they created a marketing campaign called "Welcome To Vanchester", billboards of him waving to fans coloured in red all over Manchester. They did this in retaliation to their rival Manchester City having a blue coloured billboard saying "Welcome To Manchester" with a picture of a player they signed away from Manchester United as a tongue in cheek insult to United. I'm surprised you never heard of it or know about him etc. lol. No worries, mate.

That's a lot of good info. I'm sure it will help you.

Quote:EHPRA is recommended for use for 192 days, that's 6 periods of 32 days. Whether it will be enough is impossible to tell, everyone is different. I WILL say...that you have stuff inside you, that you've either forgotten about consciously, or stuff you don't even know of period, guiding you and making you do and feel things in ways you can't even imagine. EHPRA will start dislodging it and bringing it to the surface to deal with and get rid of over time. How long it takes is unique for each person. Resist the temptation to stop early, most do that with EHPRA when it's clear they aren't done doing garbage removal with EHPRA. They go on to something else, living in denial about where they're at, and fail. Don't be like them, use for at least the full 192 days and then evaluate. You can see results the first day or night, or it may take a few days. Again, everyone is different. Some of this can be helped by how many hours you listen (up to 21 hours per day MAX) and using headphones for more potency.

Quote:Here's the link for the sleephones I use: http://www.sleepphones.com/SleepPhones-Wireless. "Official bedtime headphones provider of CatMan" Lol! Seriously, make sure to measure yourself properly BEFORE ORDERING to get the right size! I agree there's lots of different models now, the one I use is excellent. I always recommend headphones use only, the difference is big for me, and no small part of my success, no doubt! Stick to Sleephones for night time bed use, as they're designed for bed use and are very comfortable and secure and won't fall off. And over the ear headphones can be fine for during the day use if you can listen during the day like me.

Quote:Use the masked track for bed or whenever using headphones, yes. It's VERY peaceful after awhile, and you sleep very well. I recommend the stream during the night, as it's a constant sound I find easier to relax with, rather than the up and down of the waves. The louder parts are always forcing me to wake up slightly out of fear of a wave crashing against me any second haha!

Quote:8 hours of headphones won't be best, in fact it'll be the BARE minimum. I just wanted to make that clear. I think a lot of guys look at the hours Shannon says to use, they see 8 hours minimum, filter out the word "minimum", and then get disappointed at the end that they didn't get as much out of the program as they wanted. Just remember, your brain has had terrible thinking styles, views, beliefs, and emotional pain that has had 20+ years in many cases to grow and strengthen. These subs are very strong, but they need hours and repetitions to be effective, the more the merrier, up to 21 hours per day MAX. So, if you can find a way to get a couple hours more of listening time with headphones each day, that will make a big difference. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if a guy is FIRMLY committed to changing his life, he can find 12 hours a day for this program, absolutely. 8 hours for sleep, that leaves 4 hours here and there during the day, pausing the program at a certain point, then starting it up right at the second you paused it, finding time during the day. 24 hours in a day, 8 hours for sleep, 8 hours for work, that leaves 8 hours for misc...make sure 4 of them are with the headphones on for the stream or waves going, and you'll be thanking me for pushing you in 192 days...

Quote:I never tried subliminals before ASC. I thought they were nonsense. I tried them only out of desperation to be honest...PUA and all that crap didn't work. ASC gave me exactly that, confidence around girls, and I felt less anxious around girls. I've had some bad experiences with them very early in life that damaged me with them, so I knew that area of my life would prove most difficult to fix. After ASC finally gave me some results, I jumped onto AM6 after my 33rd day of ASC. I chose AM6 because AM6 has a truncated version of EHPRA in it anyway, so I would be getting EHPRA as well as AM6 at the same time, as well as other AM6 goodies like OGSF and STC. I listed the hours listened to the subs in my bio, if you want to take a look.

Quote:EHPRA is a good start, and the price is right. Plus, it's best to start with a single stage to get into the habit of listening everyday as a regimen etc., getting used to how many hours a day you can handle etc., rather than jumping in too early to a massive six stage program and failing. Also, the new EHPRA 2.0 coming out in the next month or two will have Positive Thinking, Positive Attitude, amongst other incredible changes. My advice is, use the free EHPRA for now, get your results, and when the new version is released, get that and use it. It's shaping up to be an amazing program, alot of powerful add-ons to it. Don't worry about LTU IMO, once you're done with EHPRA you'll likely want to move onto AM and there won't be much for you in LTU by then.

Quote:I saw in earlier posts you were from Manchester. I'm a Manchester United fan. "Welcome to Vanchester" is a slogan they used when a world reknowned manager came to Manchester to run United now. His name is Louis Van Gaal, they created a marketing campaign called "Welcome To Vanchester", billboards of him waving to fans coloured in red all over Manchester. They did this in retaliation to their rival Manchester City having a blue coloured billboard saying "Welcome To Manchester" with a picture of a player they signed away from Manchester United as a tongue in cheek insult to United. I'm surprised you never heard of it or know about him etc. lol. No worries, mate.

Quote:That's a lot of good info. I'm sure it will help you.