(03-12-2015, 02:25 AM)sub_curious Wrote: Hi Sub users!!

I am interested in using the AM6 subs, but I have one major concern. I am currently reading Brian Tracy's book Maximum Achievement, and in that book he warns against using subliminal messages, because you simply do not know what is the message, and that many sold subliminals are found to contain no message at all, i.e. a scam. I find this to be a valid point. While I have no doubt that AM6 does contain messages, how do I know there are no bad messages in there? For example, the publisher can include messages like "You need to keep buying stuff from us if you want to be happy" and we won't even know we are getting such messages straight into our subconscious.

I apologise in advance if anyone is offended, especially Shannon. I have no intention to offend anyone or make any suggestions. I myself am very interested in using these subs as there are so many great transformation stories in the journals. However I do find this concern to be valid. What I am hoping for is someone can enlighten me on how I can know for sure that this sub is safe to use. I know Shannon does not publish the script of AM6 because they contain trade secrets. Anyway we cannot hear the messages, so we wouldn't know for sure whether the messages published are what we are really hearing. So is there any guarantee for the safety of this product? For e.g. it has been thoroughly vetted by some government agency? This is my mind I'm talking about, stuff like this is life changing, I do not want to take any unnecessary gambles.

If this has been covered in a thread somewhere before, then I apologise. Thank you and I really hope there is a good answer for this that will set my mind at ease so that I can use the sub.

Cheers!

Read this one. Thread for the skeptic. Hope it helps.

(03-12-2015, 09:35 PM)sub_curious Wrote: Thank you for all the input, people.

So there's no regulation at all? This is worrying to me. Basically this means that he can put whatever message he wants and instruct our subconscious to do whatever he wants, to fulfil whatever agenda, and nobody can catch him. And let's include other subliminal creators in the discussion too, not just Shannon. You don't know them, you don't know what agendas they have. They certainly wouldn't tell you any agenda they don't want you to know. They can be affiliated with political parties, with political agenda. They can have monetary agenda, aiming to suck more money out of you. Those are just the top of my head, there are so many possibilities. And the thing is, they cannot go to jail for it. We cannot hear the messages, there is no proof. They can get away with putting absolutely anything in the subs; they are not accountable to any law.

So at the end of the day, we have to trust them to use the subs, trust that they don't have any malicious intentions. We have to take a leap of faith. Read the forums, get a feel of the intentions of the scripter based on the behavior that he chooses to show (if we meet him) and the words he chooses to write, and use gut feeling to make the decision. To me, this is too shaky. Why can't we remove trust out of the picture? I don't have to know the scripter. I just have to know for sure that the messages that I am getting are the messages intended to produce the effects that are advertised for the product, and no other message for any other intention. One way I can think of is regulation, but I agree it is spotty. If a good way is found, then I don't have to trust the scripter's intentions, I just have to trust in the effectiveness of his product, that his script and technologies work.

Let's not too quickly dismiss this and say there can be no good way to do this, before even thinking about it; you need to put in trust, just like you need to put in trust and take risks in all other areas of life, without taking risks you cannot get anything out of life blah blah. This kind of suggestion is not improving the situation. There are many people who are not using subs because of this issue. Or are subs mainly aimed for those who want to change themselves so much they'd take the risk, and those who don't realise the risk? I hope not. Shannon, I don't think this is a new issue to you. What are your thoughts?

(03-15-2015, 02:34 AM)sub_curious Wrote: Hey Alpha Romeo,

I guess we will need two things: 1. Laws that render putting other messages other than those for advertised effects punishable (jail, fine etc) and 2. a credible, independent censoring body whose only agenda is to protect the users.

I realise all these are difficult to realise. Passing new laws in a country such as the US is very slow because each state has its own laws. The censoring agency will also be difficult to set up. As you said, leaving the censoring to the government might not be entirely good, because the government definitely has its own agendas too. But if subliminal creators are really serious about helping more people and putting their subs in the ears of more people, there should be a concerted effort by them.

Thanks for the well wishes, I wish you well for your journey too. I hope for you that there are no 'other' messages in your subs. I am going to create my own affirmation tapes, something Brian Tracy recommends. I am not going to touch subliminals until those two things are in place. To illustrate, I'm not one of those people who are willing to take a 'new' medicine not approved by the FDA.