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RE: Journey to social greatness - Magnus - 01-09-2013
So something else cool happened last night.
I was listening to this inner child visualisation which was the exact same one I listened to just before starting my journey with Shannons subs. This particular one was dealing with infancy using age regression. When I listened to it last time I had to stop most of the way through due to this strong fear that rose up, I saw myself in this dark room as a baby of about 3 months in a cot scared a frail and I didn't know how to deal with it. I remember coming out of it shaking and it scared me for weeks afterwards.
What happened when listening to the same one this time couldn't have been more different. I went back into the same room, with the same baby starring up at me except this time the room was filled with light streaming in through the window and the baby was laughing and smiling back at me. From there one of the most intense feelings of love and warmth I have ever felt bubbled up inside me. I came to shed a few tears and just lay there holding myself.
Now that in itself is a huge and unexpected change in the fact that I just never knew that change had occurred. I'm going to has it a guess and say this is due to the OF in WM.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Spiral - 01-09-2013
Nice! Spread the love
RE: Journey to social greatness - Shannon - 01-09-2013
OF and WM both replace fear with love and joy. Congratulations on success.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Magnus - 01-09-2013
Thanks guys,
A few things have clicked after last night as realisations are coming to light. I've noticed my motivation is slowly starting to shift from fear based motivation to wanting to do it based on self pride and self respect.
It's been slow and gradual as I lost most of my motivation for a while but its slowly picking back up now in a different way and I didn't even realise it until today.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Spiral - 01-09-2013
Jim I went through a period where I had no motivation period. You'll come around.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Magnus - 01-11-2013
Its alright its already coming round it was just the lull in-between the switch from fear based motivation to goal based motivation
So more stuff that I should write down before the naturalizer makes it seem like I've always been that way.
I'm more and more getting in the moment. I've noticed i'm just not worrying so much now that the initial resistance from stage 4 is gone and I am in a state of flow a lot more and just enjoying the moment or not really thinking so much. Motivation has changed, i'm getting stuff done but not because I fear what other people may think etc but because its what I want to do and because I want to take pride in myself. Its almost like i'm having a manic episode but without making rash decisions or any of the other bad side effects of mania.
Oh and I just realized that I haven't watched TV for two weeks. I hadn't even noticed until a while ago when I was sitting down eating lunch and I saw the TV. I've been spending all my time getting things done. Like moving back into my parents for a brief visit before I find myself a new place and going out with mates which happens a fair bit at the moment. I used to always stress out if I didn't catch up with mates for a week now I just don't care either way. If I catch up with them I catch up with them if I don't I do my own thing. I believe this relates a lot to the fear of being alone which was related to abandonment, so there's been some positive changes in that respect.
I've also noticed that shame is holding the leftover fears I have in place at the moment. When I have been thinking and reflecting I've realized that a lot of my social fears and fears around women are because I don't believe i'm good enough or I believe i'm defective. So there's a lot of toxic shame in there that will do really well with a run through of OFSG.
The only negative so far has been the fact I've put on quite a bit of weight I'm still 10kg lighter than I was when I started subs but i'm 8kg heavier than I was when I finished AM. I've got a plan for this one its just a matter of getting in contact with my brother who is good friends with a nutritionist to get this sorted. Along with getting back to the gym more often.
Oh and one other thing I'm being more straight up and honest at work. This is due to fears dissipating and so I'm being honest with work mates about whats frustrating me or when I'm angry.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Magnus - 01-13-2013
So I know this isn't subliminal related but I also know people here have a lot of knowledge. I'm looking at giving up sugars and caffine to improve my diet, I've got the rest of it down pat its just the sugar namely sugary based coffee. The issue I have is I feel really down and tired when I give up.
Anyone have any tips on keeping up mood and energy when giving up sugar?
RE: Journey to social greatness - Sean - 01-13-2013
Jim, when I went on a strict paleo diet, I found that working through a few rough days broke me out of the worst part of the addiction to simple carbs and caffeine.
I'd say plan out a weekend and grind through it.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Andrew - 01-13-2013
Your problem will be giving up caffeine. The withdrawls and migraines from that drug are hell. Giving up sugar is touch but it is not so bad.
My recommendation is to titrate off both if you can't afford to go cold turkey. I would suggest finding a very controllable amount of caffeine (pills or measuring it out) and work your way down to a coke (~35mg) and eventually zero mg. Replacing sugar is simple, you can buy xylitol in bulk- yeah your energy might be strange for a while but the real issue is changing your like of "sweet". That part can be no fun- you have to go through and eliminate "sweetened" things from your diet. Even foods that are supposed to be healthy. Flavored yogurt, even "healthy" granola, fruit juices...
Eventually your taste buds will follow, and if you try to go back to sweet it is a challenge as well and the stuff you eat now will taste sickeningly sweet.
Anyway you need to get to a point where you can control the dosage of caffeine and simple carbs(sugar), or go cold turkey and hope your plan is solid and you have a good support system.
As far as "keeping up mood and energy" there is nothing you can eat, or take to do this. Your best bet is sleeping and exercising as much as you can. While withdrawing off any drug (in your case two- caff, sugar) I recommend minimal weightlifting and doing lots of steady-state endurance exercise. Anything with high intensity seems to overload the body.
(01-13-2013, 11:15 AM)jimbobday Wrote: So I know this isn't subliminal related but I also know people here have a lot of knowledge. I'm looking at giving up sugars and caffine to improve my diet, I've got the rest of it down pat its just the sugar namely sugary based coffee. The issue I have is I feel really down and tired when I give up.
Anyone have any tips on keeping up mood and energy when giving up sugar?
RE: Journey to social greatness - Magnus - 01-15-2013
Thanks Andrew and Sean some good ideas in there. I've cut back so far, am down from four mochas (chocolate with coffee) a day to 1 a day and 1 black coffee which is a good start. I've also stopped using sauces to fill wraps that I have.
Current usual day is
2 eggs in omelete for breakfast
2 low carb wraps with no sauces just chicken a veges for lunch
Chicken and brocolli for dinner
Just need to add snacks and cut back on the last of the caffeine/carbs
Back to WM. Stage 4 continues to be a bit of a drag putting me down quite a bit. I seem to be crying a lot during this stage and I'm unsure why. Feeling like I just don't give a damn in social situations though, most of the time I don't feel like socialising but when I do I literally say whatever and don't care.
Also listened to the Depression Release aid for an hour on headphones yesterday to try it out and wow the change in my mood was huge. I'm guessing this is due to the BWE in it and the fact it was releasing serotonin. Not to sure if it could work quite that quickly though. Mood dulled down after about 30 minutes of not listening. If it was a case of it releasing serotonin then its quite possible I may actually be depressed because of biochemical reasons more so than resistance from WM.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Shannon - 01-15-2013
Try listening to it without headphones and see what the effects are compared to with headphones. If it's more the BWE, you'll notice that in 10-20 minutes of listening with headphones, you probably feel significantly better/lighter/less "heavy" emotionally. 3rd Gen subliminals alone normally take significantly longer - days or weeks. If it is the BWE, use it for 30 minutes twice a day with headphones, and on speakers otherwise. It should eventually stabilize your serotonin that way.
And yes, it (BWE) can work that fast.
I notice that when I am depressed for reason of emotional basis - sublimated anger, frustration, pain - the antidepressant effect of the BWE in this program is much less than when I simply have a brain chemistry imbalance.
Once you know how the program affects you with and without headphones on, start adding protein to your diet. I find that a diet of about 50% - 60% protein makes my brain chemistry balance naturally.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Sean - 01-15-2013
Jimbob, are you on WM2 and adding a 3G Depression Release Aid?
If so: Shannon, when can you safely combine these?
RE: Journey to social greatness - Shannon - 01-15-2013
(01-15-2013, 03:36 PM)Sean Wrote: Jimbob, are you on WM2 and adding a 3G Depression Release Aid?
If so: Shannon, when can you safely combine these?
If you're using a 5G program, that's a good point. You'll be able to use it for the BWE as I said above (30 minutes, twice a day, probably need a couple weeks) without causing problems between the subliminals, due to the very low power of 3rd Gen in comparison and only exposing yourself about 14 hours in 2 weeks - but you can't use it as a standard subliminal, that's correct. WM 2.0 will almost certainly annihilate the 3G subliminal effects. It'll all be BWE.
RE: Journey to social greatness - Magnus - 01-15-2013
Thats the plan just to run the BWE during the day on headphones, twice a day for 2 weeks. If I continue to feel depressed then this is a program I may look at running after finishing WM. I want to assess whether its subs or not that are causing it (as a form of resistance) and to do that I will need to wait till the end of WM to be totally sub free for a week.