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RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Sean - 10-06-2012
Patti, after five years of not riding at all, I trained up to ride a 175-mile two-day ride last year. I had to cut it down to 125 miles, due to logistics and the fact that my 13-yo son was also riding, and his escort bailed after the first big hill.
My training started at just a couple miles each day. You can do it.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Patti - 10-06-2012
(10-06-2012, 02:08 AM)Shannon Wrote:Quote:Shannon, that may very well be true, but is there something I could be doing to not resist? I’m trying everything I can think of.
No you haven't.We know you're resisting out of fear. Therefore, the Overcoming Fear sub is something you haven't tried.
But since your copy of SSF is in 5G you can't use that with it.
I am going to start building Stage 1 of the SSF Version 6.1 in 5G HST/SOS in a day or so. Amonth several other significant enhancements to the script, it will also include fear destruction as a much greater focus. I will try to find a way to build it so that you can use it and benefit from these enhancements as well, but it may be that you specifically need that hard coded specific frequency that I calculated for you.
I am pleased to see you going out bike riding and getting some excercise, though.
Well I knew the fear sub wasn’t an option for me at this time because of the 5g, but I had assumed that you had included it in the sub knowing how petrified I was to quit. Is fear not in the stop smoking sub? Or do you just want to intensify it more? This story will tell you just how much fear plays into my quitting or I guess, staying quit.
The last time I quit smoking, I got to 8 months before anxiety hit. I was so sick for months, had multiple tests done, that all concluded my symptoms were anxiety driven. Medication did help so I used it for awhile. I may have been anxiety ridden before I had started smoking but being I was only 16 when I started, I really don’t know. And I’m sure any symptom of anything was handled by smoking, so I didn’t really know it was there to deal with. Well, for the most part anyway. Point is, my subconscious waited 8 months before hitting me hard with something that would drive me back to smoking. What I did learn is that after the anxiety was more known to me, when I restarted smoking, it no longer helped with the anxiety or at least not totally. That was then.
This time it feels like it’s been hitting me hard with everything in the beginning. I’ve had the anxiety, which now feels like restlessness, the sadness, which comes and goes, and I had a new symptom that really showed me just how fearful I am of quitting for good.
I started feeling like there were tiny (very tiny) bugs on my head that I could feel walking done my forehead to my eyebrows and eyelids. It was totally freaking me out! I thought I had bed bugs. I got and exterminator, took my dog to the groomer and vet, washed my bed linens daily. I was like a maniac. I scoured the internet for information which kept leading me to it was bedbugs. My mother came over one day and we were having lunch. While we were talking, she grabbed my hands to stop me from rubbing my head and face. I knew I was doing that but was finding a hard time not doing it. The sensation was much like sweat rolling down my face. When I mentioned it to my husband that night, I also mentioned that we might have bedbugs and he said, “Patti, you don’t have bedbugs on you because if you did, I would and I don’t”. Ohhhhh, enlightenment. So I started to research the internet for alternate reasons and found out that stress (there’s even a name for it that I don’t remember) can very much cause this sensation. There’s some kind of drug they have to help with it, but I’m not interested in that.
But isn’t it fascinating that my subconscious threw that at me? That’s how it seems to me anyway. The good news is that knowing what it is, is helping me to deal with it so I don’t feel it so much. Also, it cae out in only a couple of weeks of quitting instead of months. My fear now is just how creative will it get, to get me to do what it wants?! I don’t really want to know because that was really yucky and made me feel like I was going crazy!
What is SOS?
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Tiesto - 10-06-2012
(10-06-2012, 06:53 AM)Patti Wrote: My goal right now is to not throw up my guts after my bike ride haha!
Haha! Just throw up it's ok, lol!
When I was physically unfit and my trainer pushed me to the limit every training session, my head often get really dizzy and I threw up many times, lol, but that's normal because that is what happens when you really push the limit and breaking new barrier, and usually from my personal experience the next training session I always come back stronger, and the kind of training that made me threw up previously was able to be handled more easily (without throwing up
)..(10-06-2012, 06:53 AM)Patti Wrote: I would love it if exercise became addictive to me!
Once you get really serious with your training, and do it consistently, your mind and body will adapt to your new healthy and physically fit conditioning, you will get these 'feel-good-feeling' after every hard training session, it's like euphoria, I think it is also from dopamine and other feel good hormones being released after intense training, when you get to this stage, I promised you, you will get addicted to it and when you don't train your body will be craving for the next workout..
(10-06-2012, 06:53 AM)Patti Wrote: So my new motto is slow but steady wins the race.
I love your motto, and it reminds me when I was younger I was also impatient to get result in term of my fitness goal, until many years later I learned to enjoy the journey, and keep making steady consistent gain everytime, instead of just rushing to the goal and after achieving the goal quickly losing all my motivation and began regressing back.
Just make sure that you make new improvement everytime, usually called making new PR (Personal Record), the benchmark I'll leave it up to you, whether it's more stamina, or more strength, or leaner body, or better flexibility, whatever it is, make sure you hit your goal and beat your previous record.
Once you're focusing all your focus and attention on building and achieving your new powerful and extremely fit body, and you realized how good the feeling of having that kind of physique, smoking will be a thing of the past, you'll probably be disgusted and wondered why did you ever touch ciggies in the first place.
With Shannon's powerful SSF sub in your arsenal to support you in this journey, combined with your serious effort in building your super fit body, I have no doubt you will live your life without ever smoking again, forever!
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Shannon - 10-06-2012
Patti,
There is stuff in the program to deal with anxiety, but there is not as much focus on fear destruction as I want for the next version.
SOS is self optimizing scripting. You're using HyperSpeed Technology that is manually calculated and static. SOS will allow the perfect frequency to be calculated automatically and continually tracked and adjusted automatically. But you're doing just fine. Everything is going according to expectation. I've got this covered. We'll switch you over when the time is right.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Patti - 10-15-2012
I have been living a nightmare since my last post, but hey I haven’t smoked! It’s not been easy but I do feel as if there’s an invisible wall of will power around me. And I’ve never felt anything close to what I would describe as will power before. All I keep thinking is that I just want to finish the program. Somewhere off in my distant thoughts I hear, if you want to smoke after you run through the program, well than you weren’t ready to quit. But, I also hear that I probably won’t want to. I’ve always thought I wanted to be just social smoker, so that I could smoke when I felt I really needed to like now, but I know me and I could never do that. Once I smoke one, I’d be right back to smoking all the time. I am looking forward to being done with this program and moving onto other area’s of my life I could use some help.
I have noticed that my sense of smell is getting stronger. Just walking from my house to my car, I will often catch a scent of something fragrant in the air that’s usually faint but more noticeable now.
I also noticed yesterday that I not breathing as hard as I used too. For some reason we always seem to power walk from the Winnie to the stadium and back for the football games and I don’t really ever remember it being hard or me being out of breath but yesterday it just seemed it was made apparent to me that it was easier to talk as I was walking quickly.
I was wondering if any of the exercise enthusiasts on this forum have heard koko fit club? I just saw that we have one near us and to me, it seems to be somewhere between going to a gym and hiring a personal trainer. For me, I need variety because I get so bored with exercise. If anyone knows of this company and has any thoughts, I’d be very interested in hearing them. I have read the website but I always go more on word of mouth.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Patti - 10-17-2012
I was a little disappointed last night. I’ve been feeling somewhat better, the cravings are going away some and my anxiety hasn’t been quite as bad. But yesterday afternoon, I was exhausted and laid down for a while. I used the headphones, which I haven’t for a little while, and when I woke up I had a horrible migraine even though the program was playing at a low volume. I also had that bug sensation on my head and face. I feel like this anxiety and/or fear is just laying dormant waiting to pounce at any moment. Maybe using the headphones is just to powerful for me right now, so I don’t think I’ll be doing that for now. I know it doesn’t work like this, but I wish our subconscious had some kind of meter so we’d know when we’re getting close. I had been feeling like I was just about to the top of the hill but now I’m not so sure. But it is what it is and I’m where I am, so I’ll just keep trudging along.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Shannon - 10-18-2012
Patti, I am so proud of you. You have no idea. Seriously, you're weathering this like a champ. You are definitely earning my respect.
I know it's very difficult right now, but it is getting better, and it will continue to get better. Remember that it's always darkest before the dawn. That dawn is coming, as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Patti - 10-18-2012
Thanks Shannon! That really means a lot! It just sucks because I know the program is working as I’m not really having too many cravings anymore. It’s just all the other yucky things that are going on in and with my body and mind that’s making quitting harder than it has to be. But like I’ve said before, there’s many things attributing to how I feel, it’s not just the program. I’m going to the doctor today to start HRT because I just have had enough. Hormones or the lack of, really do effect so many women and men and my feeling now is that I’ve been suffering needlessly, so I’m gonna stop doing that.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Shannon - 10-18-2012
Just make sure it's not "nicotine replacement therapy".
I think hormone replacement therapy might be a really helpful thing for you.
Tell me more about the other stuff going on in your mind and body that's making quitting harder than it has to be. I'm guessing that you mean fear and hormones?
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Patti - 10-19-2012
No nicotine replacement for me! And I agree that hormones may help me tremendously. When I think back to the last time I stopped smoking, it at 8 months that anxiety hit hard. I immediately thought it was a symptom of not smoking (which it may have been), because I had slight issues with it up until that time. But it may have in fact been from depletion of hormones. I started taking anxiety meds (lexapro) which did help with the anxiety which is a symptom of being perimenopausal. So it did help with the symptom but didn’t take care of the issue which HRT hopefully will. It all makes sense. I’ve tried many all natural remedies with no effect, so needless to say, I hope this takes care of many of my issues.
As far as other things, basically what I meant was the stressors that really wreak havoc on my mind and body. Things like worry which is huge, fear of change and letting go of control. I’m not sure if the program will be dealing with these types of things or not but maybe just going on an hrt plan will help deal with it all better. I used to be so balanced and even keeled. Right now I cry every single day about nothing, wake up with stomach pain and other types or these things. It’s all ridiculous. Some may still be from stopping smoking but who knows.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Shannon - 10-19-2012
I can't be with you to observe you in person and make a more informed decision, but it wouldn't seem that reasonable to have you crying every day because you quit smoking. I'm thinking the stomach pain may be due to anxious reaction, but think about this. You have quit smoking. You did it in the past for 8 months. What was there to be anxious or fearful about? Did the sky fall? Did the world end? Did anyone die?
No.
Patti didn't burn tobacco leaves and then perform the unnatural act of inhaling the smoke.
In other words, apparently some part of you is terrified of breathing naturally. But that is fading away, and by the time you finish the program, you should be a permanent non-smoker.
By the way, Patti, I recommend you not use AF until you've been quit at least a year without problems.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Patti - 10-24-2012
This week has been sort of a relapse as I’ve been having cravings like crazy that are coming out of the blue. I’m dealing with them just fine, but I don’t really know where they’re stemming from.
Shannon, you bought up a good point, that I had wanted to mention before but kept forgetting.
First off, I just wanted to tell anyone who reads this, that even though I have had my fair share of struggles with this journey, I would still do it all over again, because I’m not smoking and that is the bottom line. I wish I would have had this program when I was younger because I don’t think smoking would have been so integrated in my being. So if you’re thinking about using this program…JUST DO IT!
I started meditating which I have never done before and very much enjoyed. One of the things I’ve been noticing a lot lately is the deep breaths I’ve been taking and the smells that I’ve been enjoying. My daughters boyfriends family owns a large farm that they do Halloween festivities at. One of them is a haunted corn maze that they open early for younger kids to meet and greet and not be so scared. I went with my daughter and grandson. We had to drive out to maze on a tracker wagon and it took about 15 minutes to get out to the maze, which we traveled through deep woods. I could not get enough air into my lungs….who knew I liked being in the woods so much. It was slightly dewy out but just smelled amazing.
I know for the most part I vent on here about the troubles of quitting but there definitely have times whcen I notice some really good things happening also. Another thing that happens is I sometimes have a euphoric feelings, lots of times while showering (which I was thinking may be because of a phrase in the sub having to do with water).
It also seems to be second nature that .since I’ve done this one good thing for myself, other goods choices come more naturally. I drink more water and actually opt for it, and I seem to choose healthier food. I don’t drink all that much alcohol anymore but I would if I were out just to be social. I’ve found that I don’t need it to be social and I’m ok with not drinking, I still have a good time.
Shannon, how come no AF? Not that it matters all that much, I’ve still got 3 stages left on this program. But are there others I shouldn’t use either? I own a few that I haven’t had time to use, but I don’t want to use any that would be detrimental to this cause.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Shannon - 10-24-2012
I say no Alpha Female because the goal of that program is to free you to do as you please. Before you do that, we need to make sure you please to stay forever a non-smoker.
RE: Smoking sub-take 3-HST-take 1 - Patti - 10-25-2012
Okedokee