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Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - Shannon - 08-26-2025
Originally I was not planning to run DMSI v5/5.1, but since I am apparently effectively running it just by doing the audio quality checks, I might as well give it a spin for a bit.
Today is the official "Day 1", running 20 minutes, 1 loop @ volume 8/15 on my android device.
Yesterday, I ran 2 minutes of it and got a significant enough result that I decided to go full blast for a little while, at least.
So far I have noted various responses from women both through TID and through direct exposure, before I did anything but listen to about 20 seconds of it to verify the audio quality. Yesterday I encountered an unusually attractive example of the female sex and decided to expose myself to a couple minutes of it to see what would happen. It had noted effects both before and after I did that. Nothing mind blowing, of course, but I noted that I was much more likely to say what I was thinking instead of simply think it, and that I was being much more playful and fun than normal. As it happened, she was not within sight of me for the majority of the time I was there, but I did note that for the first time since I first encountered her months ago, she spoke to me and also wished us a good day as we left. My girlfriend commented that we have never heard her speak before.
My appetite is noticeably up; I needed an after dinner blood sugar boot before bed. Today I was getting a lot of heat from the aura, and I was actually sweating in an air conditioned house (set to 73 F) for a little while. This caught my attention.
Loop is finished already... let us see how this plays out for a bit.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - ncbeareatingman - 08-26-2025
(08-26-2025, 10:45 AM)Shannon Wrote: Originally I was not planning to run DMSI v5/5.1, but since I am apparently effectively running it just by doing the audio quality checks, I might as well give it a spin for a bit.
Today is the official "Day 1", running 20 minutes, 1 loop @ volume 8/15 on my android device.
Yesterday, I ran 2 minutes of it and got a significant enough result that I decided to go full blast for a little while, at least.
So far I have noted various responses from women both through TID and through direct exposure, before I did anything but listen to about 20 seconds of it to verify the audio quality. Yesterday I encountered an unusually attractive example of the female sex and decided to expose myself to a couple minutes of it to see what would happen. It had noted effects both before and after I did that. Nothing mind blowing, of course, but I noted that I was much more likely to say what I was thinking instead of simply think it, and that I was being much more playful and fun than normal. As it happened, she was not within sight of me for the majority of the time I was there, but I did note that for the first time since I first encountered her months ago, she spoke to me and also wished us a good day as we left. My girlfriend commented that we have never heard her speak before.
My appetite is noticeably up; I needed an after dinner blood sugar boot before bed. Today I was getting a lot of heat from the aura, and I was actually sweating in an air conditioned house (set to 73 F) for a little while. This caught my attention.
Loop is finished already... let us see how this plays out for a bit.
Trippy !!
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - Shannon - 08-26-2025
Tonight I had dinner at a restaurant we go to once or twice a week, and there were two male and two female servers. One of each was doing sidework after being cut, and our server was male. Great guy.
Both of these female servers has shown interest during previous testing, and tonight the more attractive of the two was the one cut and doing sidework. At first she was focused on her job and didn't notice us, but after a few back-and-forths, she did, and made sure to say hello - to me, specifically. Usually she will greet "us", not "me".
She also inserted herself into our conversation while she was cleaning the table next to us, and I have noted that she only does that when I am running an indirect exposure aphrodisiac (IEA).
She left shortly after that, but those are signs that she was reacting. Based on past on/off cycles of testing an IEA, I would have been completely invisible to her if I were not running DMSI. Not exactly a lot she could have done while I was sitting there with my girlfriend in front of me, and she was at work, but it was a response as a result of DMSI.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - treble - 08-27-2025
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RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - Shannon - 08-27-2025
Today at breakfast, I went to a restaurant where a long time friend of mine works. She is a tiny petite Hispanic woman who is an easy 9, in spite of being in her early 30's. I have known her for almost 8 years now. She started off as a server where I have breakfast on this day and has worked her way up to store manager. She's not just very beautiful, but exceptionally intelligent, and she's a real go-getter. She is extremely competent, as well. If i wasn't taken, I'd have jumped on her in a heartbeat shortly after we met.
She is also involved in a long term relationship that is now 17 years old, which would have stopped me in my tracks had I gone after her, because I don't touch taken. If you know, you know.
Regardless, ever since we met, there has been something between us. She is attracted to me, and I am attracted to her. She became mt regular server at least once a week, and now that she is store manager, she has a different store than where she served. We drive about 35 minutes each direction to keep her in the loop.
While she was a server, she was very respectful of my relationship, and her own. But over time, she's come to bond with me more. She started off by giving me/us special attention, going out of her way to serve us, stealing us from other servers, and making sure that shit got done right, even if she had to yell at the kitchen staff. (And more than once, she did.) Then it evolved into her breaking the touch barrier, and touching me or my girlfriend occasionally. Then it evolved, during testing of X4A-1511, into her giving us hugs whenever she saw us - but she would always make sure to hug my girlfriend first, to show that she wasn't trying to steal me. The hugs remained long after testing stopped.
Then she gave me her phone number, but as usual, didn't respond to calls or texts. I didn't push it. Over time, she did start to respond to texts, but I didn't want to encroach on her relationship, so I let that drop, and never tried to call her.
She started telling us she thought of us as family. Then started saying "Love you guys", and then "Love you" when we left. It was a very slow progression, and progress would speed up when I was testing an indirect exposure aphrodisiac. Typically, DMSI made her uncomfortable, because I could see in her body language that she was responding with a strong sexual arousal that she could not possibly act on, so she would become avoidant. X4A made her start off more attentive, and then the same thing happened with 1511 and then 1600. She had to avoid, or she might do something she regretted.
Things plateaued for a while. We would come in, and when she was a server, she would serve us, hug us, and spend time talking outside of work related things. It was comfortable, but it had reached the end of what she could do. As a manager, she comes over and hugs us and talks to us for a bit, and sometimes shows us personal pictures, but she being store manager, has responsibilities to attend to.
Today was the first day she has been exposed to me while I am running DMSI 5.0, and I was curious to see how she would respond. And today, she did something different than ever before. It looks like a very minor thing, unless you know what it means. Today, she saw us, came over, and for the first time ever, hugged me first, and then my girlfriend.
That seemingly little thing is a BIG deal. It means that she was so responsive to my energy that she forgot to hug my girlfriend first, she forgot to play by the rules of etiquette between taken women. She acted on what she's wanted to do for a long time, now, and without any hesitation or awkwardness. And my girlfriend didn't mind at all, and then she went on to show us pictures from her vacation, and everything was smooth and comfortable.
That is yet another barrier broken. And nothing I have done or tried previously has broken this barrier. DMSI v5 did. It unlocked a door that nothing else could unlock, and this opens the door to a whole different level of possibilities.
I will not allow her to cheat on her boyfriend with me, both for the sake of her relationship and her self respect. And I will not cheat on my girlfriend. But this opens the door to that option, if things continue going this direction. It is a BIG step for her.
I also had a super cute blonde server I have never seen before show up today, and I noticed that she had "the look". That sexy, foxy look to her that says she's dangerous in a sexy way that draws you in, and makes you want to go after her. At first, she just passed by, and I thought nothing of it, but then I noticed that she was standing almost directly behind me, for an extended period of time. She was stationed at the register, which was right behind me, but she certainly did not need to stand where she was to do it! She was consistently standing about 2 feet from me, basically as close as she could have physically gotten. It wasn't to open the door, or help people get seated; she didn't do either of those things. And she had to leave and come back several times to run the register. When I arrived, she was not there, and when I left, she did not return to that spot. This leads me to believe she was standing there because she was drawn to me or my energy.
She cashed me out. I commented that I had never seen her before, and asked if she was new. She cheerily stated that this was her first non-training day. As she rang me up, I noted that she was flushed about the face and neck, and possibly her shoulders too, but I could not tell. She made unusually direct eye contact with me whenever she could. All very interesting. It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere in the future.
There is another female server who works there who is also exceptionally physically attractive. She was seating people, so she walked past me several times. When she noticed me, she smiled and waved a "cutesy" type of wave at me, holding her hand up and batting her fingers instead of actually waving her hand. I felt the sniper fire on her, which felt akin to a pulse of energy in my chest. Unfortunately, circumstances did not allow me to watch her closely enough to see if she responded. She did not hover, like the blonde girl did. She will also be one to watch.
Breakfast was interesting, but I'd like to see more than this. I did my loop after I got home from this. 20 minutes is so fast.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - Shannon - 08-27-2025
Just got back from the chiropractor. I was greeted with significantly more enthusiasm than usual by the two women who work there. This program definitely seems to spark conversations. I was talking the moment I got there until the moment I left. I get the impression that both of them would be interested, if we were alone, not at her work, and I was single. But that's not helpful.
One of the reasons I don't usually do DMSI testing anymore is because my circumstances are pretty terrible for this. I spent most of my day in my office working, and when I am not in my office, I am eating or at the chiropractor. Eating out means I am with my girlfriend, and interest from anyone is halted in it's tracks by that and the fact that they are at work.
My girlfriend is going through some stuff right now that mean DMSI is probably not going to really do much to her, also. Although that will be interesting to see.
So I'm really not the best candidate for testing this, but I do have a time or two per week where I can at least go eat without her. Still, the other party will be at work.
Should be interesting, but remember thing all this is kind of disappointing for a test like this.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - Shannon - 08-28-2025
Tonight at dinner was very interesting. I had the rare opportunity to have dinner out without my girlfriend. When I have this opportunity, I usually go to a specific sports bar where they have really good chicken wings, and I get 10 bone in all flats with smoky mesquite dry rub on them. I also go there because there are some interesting staffers to observe for body language.
Tonight, as I expected, there was a specific female bar tender we will call V, and a male server. V is really not my type. She is much to skinny for my taste, and she is relatively plain looking. She is also married. I typically observe her for simple body language purposes, but do not test indirect exposure aphrodisiacs around her. She is good at her job, and I respect her competence, and I tend to tip her well for it. She seems to be cordial and polite, competent and friendly, but I have never observed her go beyond that in the three years I have been going to this particular bar for a chicken wings dinner when I have time to be alone.
Tonight was clearly different. I walked in, and was unsurprised when the bar itself was nearly filled to capacity. In an effort to have more room to eat and avoid awkwardness, I chose to sit instead at a 2 top behind the bar, which is still within aura range of the bar, and still V's section to serve.
Things started off as usual, and I detected not even the slightest hint of anything unusual for about the first 10-15 minutes. But then her body language started to change in ways that were definitely unusual. First, she crossed her arms over her chest, which I have never seen her do before. Usually when a woman does this, there are only two reasons: She is exhaspirated, or she is feeling defensive. Since I see this particular body language from women when I am "coming in hot" with indirect Exposure aphrodisiacs (in other words, the intensity of the sexuality in my aura is uncomfortably high for that particular woman), and she had no visible reason to be exhaspirated, I concluded that I was "coming in hot", and she was responding with defensiveness.
Then she did the second thing that made me suspicious. She positioned herself at the end of the bar where I was seated, within about 5 or 6 feet of me, and started talking to the guy who was exactly across from me. It made me think she was perceiving him to be the reason for her response for a little bit. I have never seen her just randomly spend that much time talking to this particular patron before.
Then she went into the back, or maybe to the bathroom - she was behind ,e, so I could not tell - and when she did, she suddenly turned and looked at me as if realizing with some surprise that it was not him, but me she was reacting to. Then she was out of my field of view, and in an effort to remain neutral and not affecting the results with my own actions, I did nothing to try to track her past my peripheral field of vision as she moved behind me.
She was behind me fir several minutes, during which time I casually noted that there was a woman sitting at the 2 top next to mine such that I was facing her back. She was noticed because she had a laptop on her table, and she was watching European football loudly enough to somewhat annoy me. I decide to let it go, since I was at a sports bar and it wasn't exactly much louder than the TVs and patrons, but then I noticed her turn 180 degrees to look at me. I could not determine exactly why she would do that - I made no sound - and concluded that she must be looking past me.
But then she did it again a few minutes later, and locked eyes with me for a second, with a very serious look in her eyes. I couldn't quite tell what that look was communicating, but whatever it was, it seemed relatively serious. I had deodorant on, so it couldn't have been me smelling bad, and I had made no sound, so I was again baffled.
A minute or so later, I noticed this woman doing something fascinating. She began displaying her wedding ring to me, while she was turned around facing away from me. This signal always requires repetition to be valid, but when it is, it is her way of communicating that she is responding to the man in questtion, but she is not free to act on her response because she's in a committed relationship. I waited for repetition, and there it was: twice, then three times, and then a fourth. This woman was responding. She, too, was well within aura range. Then I realized that her skin tone had gone from pale to an odd sort of red flush, and her entire face, neck and shoulders were flushed. Wow.
V reappeared, went behind the bar and stopped to talk to the same guy again for a moment about some sports figure who retired and which team he had been a member of when he retired and then she walked away and went further down the bar to the sink where she began washing glasses. She looked up and locked eyes with me, and for a split second, there was that same look of seriousness and intensity the other woman had given me. Then she broke that with a smile, and broke eye contact to look down at the glasses she was washing.
About this time, three women walk in in outfits that tell me they're probably bar hopping. None of them was much better than average, but one of them had something about her that caught my attention. Her eye language was sharp, and I see that typically in women who are very sexual in a specific way. She glanced at me, and then went about greeting the same guy who V had been talking to, who had moved to sit near the door at the other end of the bar, with a question about where his girl was. The hugged hello, and the three girls sat down such that she was sitting next to them. They began a conversation, with none of them looking my way.
My food arrived, and I started eating. Not really paying a lot of attention now, but something made me notice that the guy who was sitting at the table with Miss Laptop was wagging his foot. I looked at her feet. No wagging, no motion. "Huh," I thought to myself, a little surprised, given how red she had become.
Then she turned around and looked me right in the eyes again with a cross between anger and accusation on her face. This lasted a split second, as if she caught herself and then turned around again. I simply observed, remained neutral, and ate.
Then I caught V staring at me, and when I did, she instantly looked away, so quickly that had I not had such a good peripheral view of her, I might have through she wasn't actually staring. But she was. Clever girl.
Then the woman who came in who had the sharp eyes broke off her conversation to lock eyes with me for a second, before continuing. I looked back, unflinching, and she did not change her expression. It was a cross between curiosity and trying to figure out what was going on. She was sitting right around the edge of my aura limits.
A moment later, Miss Laptop turned in her seat such that she was no longer facing away from me. Now, she was facing the bar to my left, and that meant that I was to her left. She positioned her right foot such that it was exposing the sole of her shoe to me. These actions alone don't indicate anything of certainty, but then she began staring at me with a smile and a curious invitation to talk in her eyes, as if she was now surrendering to whatever was affecting her, and trying to figure it out. I smiled back and went on eating. She again looked away, but her positioning meant that she was unable to do anything but look at the TVs behind the bar, which curiously, she did not do. She seemed to be contemplating her leg. I was a little bit baffled by this.
My attention was pulled away from her by the girl at the bar now staring at me intently, and intensely, and when I locked eyes with her, she did not look away. Instead she offered a big, warm, inviting smile that was clearly an invitation to join her and the guy she was next to in conversation. I smiled back in a friendly way, much more overtly and animatedly than I would have expected myself to do normally, but remained neutral and kept eating while looking at her. She seemed disappointed with this, and went back to her conversation.
Then V appeared next to me as if she had teleported. Asking if the chicken wings were good. I must have been focused on the other woman and not seen her. I responded that they were and thanked her, and continued eating. Then as she left, I had the realization that her demeanor was slightly accusatory, as if maybe she had seen me looking at this other woman and gotten upset. Hmmm.
Miss Laptop was still facing the bar and still trying to find something to look at to justify her positioning, while clearly being uninterested in the three TVs on the wall facing her. Then she turned and looked at me, gave me a broad smile, and started to open her mouth to say something before apparently thinking better of whatever it was, and turning back around to face away from me.
At this point I was starting to get noticed by one of the other girls who had come in with the girl with sharp eyes, who was trying to figure out why her friend kept looking at me. And she did keep looking at me. I saw her looking five more times. At this point I was finished eating, and had cleaned my hands of chicken grease. V came over with the check, I handed her my card and she ran it, and returned it to me, wishing me a nice evening. Her demeanor now seemed to be mostly back to the usual bartender vibe. I am guessing because she knew I was about to leave.
It was, however, raining and lightning at this point, and I spent a few moments contemplating whether to say or hazard the rain. Miss Sharp Eyes looked at me, and Miss Laptop saw her, and apparently gave her some sort of look, because Miss Eyes very clearly gave Miss Laptop a dirty and dismissive look, and then went back to talking to the guy next to her. I decided that I was going to leave, as just sitting around would probably get too awkward, and so I left.
Very interesting.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - thectexperience1 - 08-28-2025
If you feel like it, it'd be interesting to know what you mean by (sharp) eye language.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - GreekGod22 - 08-29-2025
Yeah, this is very useful to get an idea of the kind of effect DMSI has. I suppose if a guy receiving such reactions, he would be able to approach and move things forward with high chances of success. But he does need to be able to hold a conversation well, have enough dating experience, have some charisma/ charm and be able to escalate things forward.
If you're not that guy, if you're not somewhat comfortable with talking and seducing your way with a woman, and knows how to interpret their body language and all those subtle signals, no wonder you won't get "results" with DMSI. It's not like you will get women literally throwing themselves at you. or asking you directly to have sex with you.
Women are almost never direct. But as long as they agree to your propositions/ invitations, that's a green light to move things forward.
DMSI in 6G could be a really fun sub to run, after I finish my run of OGSF.
I wonder what the best sub would be to maximize my chances of seducing a woman on a date and making her mine faster. DMSI or X4AA?
I've gone on many, many dates and I realized that how confident I feel that day will dictate the outcome of the date. Some days when I've felt more anxious, more timid, I would get nowhere with the girls, and on the days where I was confident and in the zone, a lot happened.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - Shannon - 08-29-2025
(08-28-2025, 11:53 PM)thectexperience1 Wrote: If you feel like it, it'd be interesting to know what you mean by (sharp) eye language.
It is difficult to describe otherwise. They look at you and their eyes and attention narrows, and what it communicates is... "You. You're the one I am hunting."
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - Shannon - 08-29-2025
(08-29-2025, 03:42 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote: Yeah, this is very useful to get an idea of the kind of effect DMSI has. I suppose if a guy receiving such reactions, he would be able to approach and move things forward with high chances of success. But he does need to be able to hold a conversation well, have enough dating experience, have some charisma/ charm and be able to escalate things forward.
If you're not that guy, if you're not somewhat comfortable with talking and seducing your way with a woman, and knows how to interpret their body language and all those subtle signals, no wonder you won't get "results" with DMSI. It's not like you will get women literally throwing themselves at you. or asking you directly to have sex with you.
Women are almost never direct. But as long as they agree to your propositions/ invitations, that's a green light to move things forward.
DMSI in 6G could be a really fun sub to run, after I finish my run of OGSF.
I wonder what the best sub would be to maximize my chances of seducing a woman on a date and making her mine faster. DMSI or X4AA?
I've gone on many, many dates and I realized that how confident I feel that day will dictate the outcome of the date. Some days when I've felt more anxious, more timid, I would get nowhere with the girls, and on the days where I was confident and in the zone, a lot happened.
On Day 4, do you think it's going to have women walking up to me? Really? This is not the apex of what it can or will do. I am also not exactly free to do as I please, since I have a girlfriend, and the staff here knows it. Not all of the women involved know it, but the staff does.
Women become much more direct once you really start executing DMSI. That's why I am unlikely to be able to run this for long. They can and do throw themselves at you if you're really executing. I am guessing you haven't read some of what guys have seen on previous versions, but assuming the end result will be what I talk about 4 days after starting is kind of ridiculous.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - Shannon - 08-29-2025
Day 5 on DMSI:
One thing I am noticing is how tired DMSI 5.0 seems to make me. I'm not sure what is doing this... the amount of energy it uses? The FRM working me through something deep?
In any case, I am going to be switching to DMSI v5.1 with DRS embedded in it shortly here, and see how that does.
Tonight I found myself doing some seducing that I normally would not have done. Usually I don't try to seduce my girlfriend at night, but we had both just had a shower and I decided that she looked edible, so I started seducing her. When her protests turned to giggles as I got past her "defenses", I knew she wasn't really trying to stop me. I then made sure she was quite good and interested in what I was doing, and decided to say, "Okay, I'll stop, you said you don't want this." Of course this elicited enthusiastic howls of disagreement, which shortly resulted in her howling as she got what she wanted.
Normally I don't try to initiate past about 2-3 PM because I'm usually too busy or too tired from work. That was definitely interesting.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - GreekGod22 - 08-30-2025
(08-29-2025, 12:50 PM)Shannon Wrote:I wasn’t insinuating that, but actually that I believe it’s still impressive to have such effects early on. if it’s capable of even more, that’s great.(08-29-2025, 03:42 AM)GreekGod22 Wrote: Yeah, this is very useful to get an idea of the kind of effect DMSI has. I suppose if a guy receiving such reactions, he would be able to approach and move things forward with high chances of success. But he does need to be able to hold a conversation well, have enough dating experience, have some charisma/ charm and be able to escalate things forward.
If you're not that guy, if you're not somewhat comfortable with talking and seducing your way with a woman, and knows how to interpret their body language and all those subtle signals, no wonder you won't get "results" with DMSI. It's not like you will get women literally throwing themselves at you. or asking you directly to have sex with you.
Women are almost never direct. But as long as they agree to your propositions/ invitations, that's a green light to move things forward.
DMSI in 6G could be a really fun sub to run, after I finish my run of OGSF.
I wonder what the best sub would be to maximize my chances of seducing a woman on a date and making her mine faster. DMSI or X4AA?
I've gone on many, many dates and I realized that how confident I feel that day will dictate the outcome of the date. Some days when I've felt more anxious, more timid, I would get nowhere with the girls, and on the days where I was confident and in the zone, a lot happened.
On Day 4, do you think it's going to have women walking up to me? Really? This is not the apex of what it can or will do. I am also not exactly free to do as I please, since I have a girlfriend, and the staff here knows it. Not all of the women involved know it, but the staff does.
Women become much more direct once you really start executing DMSI. That's why I am unlikely to be able to run this for long. They can and do throw themselves at you if you're really executing. I am guessing you haven't read some of what guys have seen on previous versions, but assuming the end result will be what I talk about 4 days after starting is kind of ridiculous.
I haven read many DMSI journals.
RE: Shannon's DMSI 5 Experience - KingDavid93 - 08-30-2025
Hi @Shannon , hope you’re doing well.
I wanted to ask you a big-picture question about the ultimate final goal of DMSI. From my understanding, the program is designed to create an almost unstoppable level of attraction and opportunity with women — essentially amplifying sexual and romantic results far beyond what someone would normally generate without any subliminal assistance.
For context, here’s where I’m at right now:
• On average, I pull 1–2 new women per month, mostly through dating apps.
• Occasionally I’ll meet women through introductions or social settings, and sometimes I’ll go out to approach, though not as consistently as I could.
• About once a quarter, I’ll connect with someone who is either very attractive, very sexual, or both.
• These results are without pheromones, subliminals, or any other tools.
My question is: with full execution of the current version of DMSI, what should someone like me realistically expect to experience?
• Will the quantity of women I attract increase significantly (say, 2–3X my current baseline)?
• Will the quality of women noticeably improve — e.g., more highly attractive, more sexually open, more aligned with what I want?
• Will I see a shift where women start approaching me, rather than me always having to initiate?
• Or will it mainly be that the women I do approach become much more receptive?
I’m also curious about the impact of using different case instructions. If I start with normal case usage and see an uptick in both quality and quantity, would moving to hard case or extreme hard case instructions push my results even further? Or is it more about overcoming resistance rather than multiplying outcomes?
Finally, one more thing I’ve been wondering: does DMSI directly or indirectly help improve other key areas of life that also feed into success with women? For example:
• Finances (greater opportunities, more income, higher confidence in business/work).
• Health and fitness (feeling compelled to train, eat better, drop weight).
• Physical appearance (style, grooming, how you present yourself).
• Logistics (improving living situation, like having your own place or being closer to nightlife/social hubs where attractive women are).
• Or any other “side effects” that naturally support better results with women.
Ultimately, I’d like to understand what the endgame vision of DMSI is meant to look like for someone who already generates decent results but wants to break through to the next level and experience the program at its full potential.