(05-17-2023, 07:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: Just verify that the volume is as instructed, if there is a specific volume instructed to start with.  Headphones/earbuds require a different volume, so you may want to use the phone speakers if that is possible.  I don't calculate the volumes for headphones/earbuds because it's hit or miss with there being a second volume adjustment, which throws everything out the window.

You don't need to believe or be convinced for these to do their job, which is why you pay what you do for my work.  At the same time everyone's physiology is different, and that means nobody is going to get the exact same results as someone else.  Best to just set it and forget it. 

Hybrid format is usually useful for people who don't get results from the other two formats.  It's suggested for use only after trying the other two.  I suggest the first run-through be done using ultrasonic on phone speakers.  If that does not produce the desired results, then try one of the other two formats, depending on your experience during the run-through.  Hybrid is the "most powerful" format, but that's not always the best choice.  You wouldn't use a gigapress to hold an infant, for example.  The idea is to use what you need, and in most cases, ultrasonic format is the best choice.

Welcome aboard!

(05-17-2023, 08:21 AM)UglyPumpkin Wrote:

(05-17-2023, 07:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: Just verify that the volume is as instructed, if there is a specific volume instructed to start with.  Headphones/earbuds require a different volume, so you may want to use the phone speakers if that is possible.  I don't calculate the volumes for headphones/earbuds because it's hit or miss with there being a second volume adjustment, which throws everything out the window.

You don't need to believe or be convinced for these to do their job, which is why you pay what you do for my work.  At the same time everyone's physiology is different, and that means nobody is going to get the exact same results as someone else.  Best to just set it and forget it. 

Hybrid format is usually useful for people who don't get results from the other two formats.  It's suggested for use only after trying the other two.  I suggest the first run-through be done using ultrasonic on phone speakers.  If that does not produce the desired results, then try one of the other two formats, depending on your experience during the run-through.  Hybrid is the "most powerful" format, but that's not always the best choice.  You wouldn't use a gigapress to hold an infant, for example.  The idea is to use what you need, and in most cases, ultrasonic format is the best choice.

Welcome aboard!

Hi Shannon.

So if I understand correctly. You are suggesting I switch from hybrid to ultrasonic right away and calibrate to my phones speaker not earbuds / headphones..... then listen to the sub using my phones speaker?

I was under the assumption we wanted separate left and right speakers. It is not necessary for L / R speakers?

(05-21-2023, 10:28 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(05-17-2023, 08:21 AM)UglyPumpkin Wrote: Hi Shannon.

So if I understand correctly. You are suggesting I switch from hybrid to ultrasonic right away and calibrate to my phones speaker not earbuds / headphones..... then listen to the sub using my phones speaker?

I was under the assumption we wanted separate left and right speakers. It is not necessary for L / R speakers?

Perfect stereo separation is not as critically important as it once was.  Over the years, it has become more important to have the right volume, which is a very difficult thing to accomplish because different devices have different volume ranges, and may have 1, 2, 3 or even more different volume adjustments.  It becomes impossible to get a stable volume for everyone unless you have only one volume control, and the closest I have been able to come is using a cell phone speaker and then compensating for the different types of volume options.  7, 8, 15, 16, 25, 30 clicks... That I can compensate for.  But having the headphones or arbuds, or headphones with volume control and then a device volume and a software player volume, and and and... that is impossible to stabilize.  We can't even do it accurately by measuring the volume of the phone speaker because then you have to consider volume at the microphone, and different phones have different microphone to speaker locations and distances.  It's a mess.

So yes, switch to ultrasonic and play it on your phone's built in speakers.  If your phone has stereo speakers, great.  If not then it will still work, and the volume is more important.

(07-07-2023, 02:41 AM)thectexperience1 Wrote:

(05-21-2023, 10:28 AM)Shannon Wrote: Perfect stereo separation is not as critically important as it once was.  Over the years, it has become more important to have the right volume, which is a very difficult thing to accomplish because different devices have different volume ranges, and may have 1, 2, 3 or even more different volume adjustments.  It becomes impossible to get a stable volume for everyone unless you have only one volume control, and the closest I have been able to come is using a cell phone speaker and then compensating for the different types of volume options.  7, 8, 15, 16, 25, 30 clicks... That I can compensate for.  But having the headphones or arbuds, or headphones with volume control and then a device volume and a software player volume, and and and... that is impossible to stabilize.  We can't even do it accurately by measuring the volume of the phone speaker because then you have to consider volume at the microphone, and different phones have different microphone to speaker locations and distances.  It's a mess.

So yes, switch to ultrasonic and play it on your phone's built in speakers.  If your phone has stereo speakers, great.  If not then it will still work, and the volume is more important.

Hi Shannon

Very interesting what you're saying here. In terms of getting the volume right, how far away are you assuming we are from the phone speakers?

(07-07-2023, 05:19 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-07-2023, 02:41 AM)thectexperience1 Wrote: Hi Shannon

Very interesting what you're saying here. In terms of getting the volume right, how far away are you assuming we are from the phone speakers?

Phone speakers are not very powerful, so I presume that the phone is approximately within arm's reach in a pocket or on a table or desk or nightstand.