(03-19-2022, 09:09 PM)Qiel Wrote: Update? Are you still using ME?

(03-22-2022, 04:52 PM)P.O.G Wrote:

(03-19-2022, 09:09 PM)Qiel Wrote: Update? Are you still using ME?

Sorry for the lack of updates. I'm still using it pretty consistently. I still don't plan on measuring for another couple of months. However, visually I'd say I've perhaps gained half an inch in length and some thickness. That's just by my guessing, and messing around putting it side by side to TV remote controls, there's a noticeable gain in length. Mentioned by my girlfriend and other partners too. I'll probably just keep using it until OED is released.

(03-23-2022, 01:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: So what you guys want is one version that only affects length, one that only affects girth, and one that affects both at once. Three variants of the same program.

(03-23-2022, 01:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: So what you guys want is one version that only affects length, one that only affects girth, and one that affects both at once.  Three variants of the same program.

(03-23-2022, 02:28 PM)dissonance Wrote: I was just hoping for two versions the one that only affects length, and the proportional growth version (both at once), not one that only does girth. I'm assumin there's very little ppl who want only more girth, but that's just my guess.

Also, I hope it stays with only 1 or 2 loops like the current version cuz that's so much easier to fit into my day, and the reason I don't do other subs. Doing while sleep messes sleep too much, I need good sleep, so important.

(03-23-2022, 02:28 PM)dissonance Wrote:

(03-23-2022, 01:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: So what you guys want is one version that only affects length, one that only affects girth, and one that affects both at once.  Three variants of the same program.

I was just hoping for two versions the one that only affects length, and the proportional growth version (both at once), not one that only does girth. I'm assumin there's very little ppl who want only more girth, but that's just my guess.

Also, I hope it stays with only 1 or 2 loops like the current version cuz that's so much easier to fit into my day, and the reason I don't do other subs. Doing while sleep messes sleep too much, I need good sleep, so important.

Also, Shannon, I don't know if you could create something to override it, but apparently (according to a psychic), growth will slow down as you gain more and more, to a point where it becomes so slow it's not worth it anymore. I don't know if this is true, but it is 100% the case with physical methods of enlarging (for example penis hanging or stretching devices). If you could somehow find a way to override that slow-down of growth as the penis gets larger and larger that might be beneficial too. But I don't know at what point or how many inches or percentage of growth increase would cause what amount of diminishing returns, so I'm not sure, maybe that point it would be like 10 inches growth which is probably well above what people would want to grow and it wouldn't be an issue.

(03-23-2022, 03:46 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(03-23-2022, 02:28 PM)dissonance Wrote:

(03-23-2022, 01:29 PM)Shannon Wrote: So what you guys want is one version that only affects length, one that only affects girth, and one that affects both at once.  Three variants of the same program.

I was just hoping for two versions the one that only affects length, and the proportional growth version (both at once), not one that only does girth. I'm assumin there's very little ppl who want only more girth, but that's just my guess.

Also, I hope it stays with only 1 or 2 loops like the current version cuz that's so much easier to fit into my day, and the reason I don't do other subs. Doing while sleep messes sleep too much, I need good sleep, so important.

Also, Shannon, I don't know if you could create something to override it, but apparently (according to a psychic), growth will slow down as you gain more and more, to a point where it becomes so slow it's not worth it anymore. I don't know if this is true, but it is 100% the case with physical methods of enlarging (for example penis hanging or stretching devices). If you could somehow find a way to override that slow-down of growth as the penis gets larger and larger that might be beneficial too. But I don't know at what point or how many inches or percentage of growth increase would cause what amount of diminishing returns, so I'm not sure, maybe that point it would be like 10 inches growth which is probably well above what people would want to grow and it wouldn't be an issue.

Well I don't base my R&D on psychics, so I don't know that I believe the psychic, but it is possible to be either way.  The idea that it would slow down over time would suggest that it is limited by genetics, but the method I am using should not be limited by genetics.  Therefore, I don't know that I need to override any such thing, because a psychic isn't proof.  And now you are potentially compromised as a tester, because you might make that happen as a result of placebo when it wouldn't have otherwise.  I guess we will have to observe a lot more people.

Just remember that expecting diminishing returns isn't going to help you achieve the program's goals.  So let go of that and let the program and your body show you what is what instead.

The program is designed to generate growth until you stop using it.

As for how many loops per day, I don't control that.  I make the best program I can, and then the models tell me how it needs to be used to get the best results.

(03-24-2022, 10:42 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Shannon when you really think about it what you had mentioned seems to be the best option.  Making 2 more subs (one for length only and one for girth only).  So that means 3 total when you add the current one.

The current version is perfect for most people.  The other two gives guys that are average or above average the option to chose what's best for them.  If you only make a length only option that would leave out guys who are above average length wise and probably just want a little bit more girth.

(03-24-2022, 10:17 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(03-24-2022, 10:42 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Shannon when you really think about it what you had mentioned seems to be the best option.  Making 2 more subs (one for length only and one for girth only).  So that means 3 total when you add the current one.

The current version is perfect for most people.  The other two gives guys that are average or above average the option to chose what's best for them.  If you only make a length only option that would leave out guys who are above average length wise and probably just want a little bit more girth.

That's why I said it.  But there won't be upgrades for some time, and I cannot guarantee I will have time to build three of them.  5.9G is proving to be quite a time consuming challenge to build.

(04-05-2022, 11:09 AM)P.O.G Wrote: Sorry for the lack of updates. I decided to officially measure a little under a month early. I can confirm that I've gained just over half an inch in length. Thickness has also improved, which I'm happy for, but didn't measure as this wasn't a concern for me. I've used it consistently throughout the time apart from this month of April. I'm happy with the results.