(05-13-2021, 06:47 AM)Djordje Wrote: Hi

I am using overcome pornography addiction second time. 
First time, it seemed to work, but i can't tell because i was all about nofap thing and strongly decided not to relapse.
After 2 years i started to watch porn again and became addicted very quickly.
Before 4 months i decides to go trough this again. I do not have strong willpower as before, but i expected to listen subliminals and gain some results, but this time it got worse. I am into it more than ever.

I also used EPRHA, but i can't say about that because there are no measurable improvements. I think it had success but I cannot say 100%.

First,  i am wondering what do I do wrong? I listen daily for about 6 hours on headphones or 8hrs at night on ultrasilent. Yes, I calibrated volume.

Second question is does subliminals even work for me? Is that possible?

I plan to buy USLM, but I am not sure if I should buy because I have doubts will it work correctly on me.

(05-15-2021, 08:25 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(05-13-2021, 06:47 AM)Djordje Wrote: Hi

I am using overcome pornography addiction second time. 
First time, it seemed to work, but i can't tell because i was all about nofap thing and strongly decided not to relapse.
After 2 years i started to watch porn again and became addicted very quickly.
Before 4 months i decides to go trough this again. I do not have strong willpower as before, but i expected to listen subliminals and gain some results, but this time it got worse. I am into it more than ever.

I also used EPRHA, but i can't say about that because there are no measurable improvements. I think it had success but I cannot say 100%.

First,  i am wondering what do I do wrong? I listen daily for about 6 hours on headphones or 8hrs at night on ultrasilent. Yes, I calibrated volume.

Second question is does subliminals even work for me? Is that possible?

I plan to buy USLM, but I am not sure if I should buy because I have doubts will it work correctly on me.

There are a few things you need to understand first.  You stated that the first time, you were all about nofap and you strongly decided not to relapse.  Any time your conscious mind is supporting your conscious, or directing it, you are much more likely to succeed.  It seems the second time, your conscious mind is not lending the assistance (will not to) that it was the first time, and by the sounds of it, your subconscious has a stronger impetus to do this.

Pornography "addiction", like most addiction, really isn't addiction.  It's a learned coping mechanism, and it's designed to deal with something you're afraid of doing, achieving, etc.  The goal in the case of pornography "addiction" seems to be to focus on what feels good and avoid what is feared/doesn't feel good, spending energy and time on one so that none is left for the other.

It isn't that you're doing something wrong, it's that OPA is older technology and it's not going to deal with the core issue as well as something else we have now will deal with it, which is... Overcoming Fear.  EHPRA won't deal with it as well, USLM probably won't deal with it at all.  You want OF.

The good news is, I'm almost finished building OF v3, and it's a huge upgrade from v2.  It should be available in a week or less.

If you're running OPA and it's not helping, then your subconscious is trying hard to focus into pornography to deal with some sort of fear, and by the sounds of it, that fear has grown since you first used it.  We didn't even have an "Overcoming Fear" program when I released Overcoming Pornography Addiction.  My suggestion is to either max out exposure to OPA using Ultrasonic or Hybrid format (if you can't/don't want to buy anything else), or to get yourself a copy of OF v3.  You can pre-order it.

It also can't hurt to consciously resolve to avoid pornography.

(05-15-2021, 11:03 PM)Djordje Wrote:

(05-15-2021, 08:25 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(05-13-2021, 06:47 AM)Djordje Wrote: Hi

I am using overcome pornography addiction second time. 
First time, it seemed to work, but i can't tell because i was all about nofap thing and strongly decided not to relapse.
After 2 years i started to watch porn again and became addicted very quickly.
Before 4 months i decides to go trough this again. I do not have strong willpower as before, but i expected to listen subliminals and gain some results, but this time it got worse. I am into it more than ever.

I also used EPRHA, but i can't say about that because there are no measurable improvements. I think it had success but I cannot say 100%.

First,  i am wondering what do I do wrong? I listen daily for about 6 hours on headphones or 8hrs at night on ultrasilent. Yes, I calibrated volume.

Second question is does subliminals even work for me? Is that possible?

I plan to buy USLM, but I am not sure if I should buy because I have doubts will it work correctly on me.

There are a few things you need to understand first.  You stated that the first time, you were all about nofap and you strongly decided not to relapse.  Any time your conscious mind is supporting your conscious, or directing it, you are much more likely to succeed.  It seems the second time, your conscious mind is not lending the assistance (will not to) that it was the first time, and by the sounds of it, your subconscious has a stronger impetus to do this.

Pornography "addiction", like most addiction, really isn't addiction.  It's a learned coping mechanism, and it's designed to deal with something you're afraid of doing, achieving, etc.  The goal in the case of pornography "addiction" seems to be to focus on what feels good and avoid what is feared/doesn't feel good, spending energy and time on one so that none is left for the other.

It isn't that you're doing something wrong, it's that OPA is older technology and it's not going to deal with the core issue as well as something else we have now will deal with it, which is... Overcoming Fear.  EHPRA won't deal with it as well, USLM probably won't deal with it at all.  You want OF.

The good news is, I'm almost finished building OF v3, and it's a huge upgrade from v2.  It should be available in a week or less.

If you're running OPA and it's not helping, then your subconscious is trying hard to focus into pornography to deal with some sort of fear, and by the sounds of it, that fear has grown since you first used it.  We didn't even have an "Overcoming Fear" program when I released Overcoming Pornography Addiction.  My suggestion is to either max out exposure to OPA using Ultrasonic or Hybrid format (if you can't/don't want to buy anything else), or to get yourself a copy of OF v3.  You can pre-order it.

It also can't hurt to consciously resolve to avoid pornography.

Thanks a lot Shannon!

Unfortunately,  I already ordered USLM before I got your answer, which I really regret after reading your reply.  Is it bad to use it for a few months, and than to get OF?
How long will OF be discounted as I cannot afford to buy it now?