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myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 09-18-2020 Decided to move onto OF 5.75G after my shorter-but-still-productive second run of MHS 5.75G, so I thought that I'd start an OF journal. One with a long first post. Before I dig into OF, I'll start with a quick MHS recap: MHS and I mixed well, and, even weeks after stopping MHS, other than my biggest health issue, my body still feels years younger than it'd felt last year. Exercising frequency jumped from 3-4 times/month to 4-5 times/week, but I should specify that my exercise goals had/have been about improved function and chronic pain reduction, not about aesthetics or athletics. Speaking of exercise, yeah, given that some things take months or years when attempted through traditional means, even with expert help, I didn't expect the MHS goals to be accomplished quickly without physical effort. So, I actively participated, mostly to knock off the low-priority issues quickly and get through to the higher priorities sooner. Why did I connect MHS with any changes that I'd observed, given that I was making additional effort? Well, first of all, it's effort that I wasn't making until well after I'd started MHS. Second, the biggest difference wasn't so much about making the effort as it was about intuitively knowing what and which effort to make. And, third, almost all of my effort required me to discard years of preconceptions about the what, the why, and the how before said effort could be made. I'd been barking up several wrong trees for years, no matter how otherwise helpful visiting those wrong trees may have been. In any case, that was MHS, and this is an OF journal, so I should stop digressing and get back to the topic at hand: Overcoming Fear 5.75G. Why did I choose something new and give MHS a break, if my highest priority with MHS wasn't resolved? Four reasons:
So far, not much to tell. Can't echo most users' initially blissful reactions, but, then, I'm me, not most users. Many of them have been running some version of FRM for over a year, and some had a few extra weeks or months of DRS too. I'd only run FRM in DMSI 3.3.0 and 3.3.1 and had no prior exposure to DRS. Yeah, I'd run E1, E2, and years of DMSI's H&C, but those weren't FRM or DRS. Do I feel more fearful/fearless than usual? Emotionally, I feel... more stressed and overworked. Not more fearful. Not more fearless. Not more angry. Not more depressed. Definitely feeling emotions, just not anything that others seem to be reporting. I feel busy, not unchanged. Not relaxed. Not tired. Just... busy. Has the DRS offered any increased protection? Not if I adjust for the unwelcome need for it. Ordinarily, there's no need. With DRS around, there suddenly has been. I could be misreading the circumstances, but I seem to have traded not really needing any shield for carrying a shield with a neon bullseye painted on it. If the shield's as much of a magnet as it is a shield, I'm unlikely to view it as an asset. What about intense or crazy dreams? Vivid, but otherwise mild. No adrenaline-pumping romps, not that I usually go out of my way for inspiration. Haven't purchased movie tickets in almost a decade, and haven't played a video game in nearly three. Even so, if I start dreaming that I'm Mr. Do!, Pitfall Harry, or Donkey Kong Junior, I'll be sure to make a note of it. No recent itching, unless I count probable bug bites. If a bump on my skin itches in August, my first guess is mosquitoes, even if I didn't see them doing it. No sudden headaches, unless I count verifiable atmospheric pressure drops or post-exercise pain. No excess heat, outside of having no A/C where I've been staying. The most notable change is that I've been grabbing more opportunities as they appear rather than wasting time anticipating the ones that may not. That's not uncommon for me, but I'm usually not as breezy about it. To put it another way, foresight isn't 20/20; I'm focusing on info that I've got, not info that I don't, and am decreasingly holding myself accountable for info that I never had. I'm not omniscient, and, without sufficient info, outcomes are far less predictable. "Grabbing opportunities that appear" is also not quite as passive as it might sound, given the ambitious/challenging options that can be chosen from what's available. I'm just spending less time on options that aren't actually available. I still consider options as indirectly available if they'd become available under altered circumstances, but I don't seem to be bothering to do so unless altering those circumstances is also an available option. And that's about it. Haven't observed much else during OF just yet. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 10-02-2020 So it's been two weeks since my last post. Based on others' behavior (and my own), I've arrived at an unexpected and indirect observation. From what I can tell, I seem just as (or, possibly, even more) fearful while on OF, not less, but, interestingly, this detail appears to be hidden from me during days when I'm actively listening. Haven't felt free or fearless on OF. Instead, I seem to feel fear-conscious-but-fear-oblivious on listening days and fear-affected on non-listening days. And, yeah, the first one sounds completely self-contradictory, so I'll explain: On listening days, I'm aware of when I'm experiencing a fearful situation or stimulus, I'm illogically convinced that I'm mostly calm and relaxed, and, yet, somehow, everybody else reacts as if I'm responding with a great deal of fear. Rather than removing fear from the situation, it's as if I've removed the self-awareness that I'm feeling fear from the situation. While still outwardly exhibiting all of the signs of the fear that I'm unaware of feeling. Maybe more so, because I'm unaware that I'm feeling it and/or because I'm digging at a fear unrelated to the situation, so I'm not filtering any public expression of it out, as I normally would. So I might seem more scared than usual because I'm unaware of when I'm feeling it, making it harder to mute/hide it. And I might seem calmer to others on off-days, if I'm more self-aware of my fear and better able to mute/hide it. It's disconcerting to feel less of something than usual while everyone else in the room thinks that I'm feeling more of it. In a way, it makes me feel like either my self-awareness, my internal communication, or my body language is broken. And I wouldn't even be aware of this discrepancy if not for others' reactions to their perceptions of me. I'd never have noticed this if I were on my own. Now, it's easily arguable that I've drawn the incorrect conclusion from the evidence available. And I really hope that I have. An obvious alternative explanation is that my conscious mind or outer self is calm, but my body language is simply expressing the degree of fear that my subconscious or inner self is feeling, displaying more fear when actively encouraged to fight fears and less fear when the pressure to do so has ceased. Another perfectly reasonable conclusion is that I'm just in denial of fearful responses on listening days, which is an odd thing to self-deny unless I'm trying to fake out OF's scripting by insisting that the fear isn't there to remove. (Even though I'm confirming, not denying, the fear that others have observed in me.) Or, possibly, if my interpretation of OF scripting was that internal denial of the fear is an early step (for me, at least, not necessarily anyone else) in removing it. I could list other possibilities as well, including another that just popped into my head, but I don't have enough information to be certain of any one conclusion. Whatever it may be, I don't want to fall into the popular trap of drawing a single hasty conclusion (and then swearing unearned loyalty to it and defending it until the end of time) simply because I'm too lazy (or too uncomfortable with letting something remain undefined) to be thorough or creative about the existence of other equally valid conclusions, including those that, thanks to my own limitations, will never occur to me. But, whatever the actual cause and effect may be, it's still an odd sensation, to keep seesawing between feeling calmer than I seem and seeming calmer than I feel, and it seemed worthy of a mention. Whether I'm expressing fear or not, I'm usually far more congruent than this. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - Shannon - 10-02-2020 What you're seeing is almost certainly that different parts of your awareness are responding with different levels of execution vs fear. When you're using it, those parts that are executing do not experience fear; the rest do. When you're not using it, all of the fearful parts can take over. In a case like this, what you'll notice is that over time, you'll see this gradually change. There is a reason why it's 8 months per usage cycle. And you may want to start using it every day without breaks until you become exhausted, and then rest as needed to recover, and then do it again until that fear is being overcome better. It will most likely be the best way for you specifically to run the program until the fear is mostly dealt with. You see that parts of you are executing and fearless while you use it. The fearful parts are probably responding with more fear, both out of fear of not being afraid (having convinced themselves that "fear keeps me safe"), and because they can see some parts having executed and becoming more and more fear free. This is proof that it's working; just needs enough time. It will progress further and further until each of the fears is dealt with. The ones still active just haven't been gotten to yet. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 10-03-2020 Thanks for the insight, explanation, and recommendation, Shannon. It's greatly appreciated. I certainly hadn't doubted the progress. There's definitely some amount of fear reduction happening, but, as far as I can tell, that reduction has seemed incomplete on an individual fear-by-fear basis more than on a collective one. And, in that form, it seemed like it could delay progress through the metaphorical tangled ball of yarn, if the yarn were getting thinner rather than untangled, broken, or removed. And removal by whittling away seemed... unexpected, I guess? Ahead of your suggestion, I'd already added a day of listening and subtracted a day of break on this past cycle. I'd have gone further with it, but, as you usually lean toward making incremental adjustments, I'd decided to start small. But I'm happy to push it further and see where that goes. In general, though, sub breaks do me a lot of good. Not because I dislike being told what to do (even though I prefer a damned good reason for doing it), but, I suspect, for two completely different reasons:
RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 10-07-2020 And, after a couple more short-term experiments, I think that I've found at least one thing that's been getting in my way on this one: encoding format. Yesterday, it dawned on me, in a "Wow, I could've/should've had a V8!" foreheadpalm moment, that, while I don't have the drive space nearby to store the entire FLAC zipfile for OF, I do have the space to store a single FLAC file. Now, it may be unique to my substitute listening setup (my usual setup is at the home that I haven't seen in months), but switching back to FLAC almost immediately produced more congruent results. Could be timing/coincidence or placebo, but I'm doing my best to measure the difference by observable results, not by expectation of results. Other changes (more volume, more loops) did not have the same effect. It may be that the performance gap between MP3 and FLAC has widened over the years of build process changes, that my current listening setup is more affected by encoding format than my usual setup, or that it's specific to OF itself, but I don't recall this much difference between MP3 and FLAC previously. ... and this may also mean that my MHS runs during the first half of the year were less effective than they could've been. Argh. Oh well. Lesson learned. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 10-16-2020 So, per Shannon's recommendation of no breaks back on the 2nd, the only day that I haven't run OF in October was the 1st. No excess anger, fear, exhaustion, or freedom noted. As I'd mentioned in my last post, congruence was restored (afraid when fearful, relaxed when calm) after switching from MP3 to FLAC. Since taking zero break days in the past couple of weeks hasn't been tiring and since Shannon encouraged the idea of tiring out any internal struggles, I chose to run OF for 9 loops/day during the first Saturday and Sunday of October and 12 and 11 loops/day (respectively) on the second Saturday and Sunday. No excess exhaustion from either attempt. I've continued to feel extremely busy, but, on my tiny corner of this spherical planet, busy isn't quite the same thing as tired. Interestingly, despite past experience implying that it might not transpire without breaks, I did encounter a brief burst of automatic writing yesterday. Not only did it occur on a listening day, but it occurred while actively listening to OF itself. It was barely coherent and, consequently, not remotely useful to my conscious mind, but it still happened, and that's certainly worth noting. I'm happy to be proven wrong, since it often means that I've learned something new, but I can't deny that intelligible conversation between me and myself tends to provide far more rewarding insights than gibberish does. Also, garbled automatic writing doesn't appear to be quite as internally fulfilling either, probably because 1) the inner me doesn't feel any more well-heard when tongue-tied than it does when the microphone's switched off and 2) the outer me's stuck feeling befuddled instead of informed. But, hey, who knows? Automatic writing during listening might eventually gain clarity with further practice. Either way, yesterday's experience may suggest that, once my subconscious stops speaking in stressed-out nonsense (which, admittedly, may still require a break to accomplish), some worthwhile revelation(s) might not be too far behind it. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 10-23-2020 Finally hitting some frustration, which is often the closest that I get to anger. My automatic writing's also less garbled now, if no more concise. If anyone's curious enough to take a peek (by all means, skip it if you're not), here's a lengthy (but hopefully forum-friendly) excerpt from my non-public journal: myth's Offline Journal Privately (Until Now) Wrote:Frustration has resulted from someone conflating humility with irresponsibility. From what I can tell, they're equating bragging, complaining, and nagging others with transparency and active participation, and, to them, if I'm not broadcasting my contributions or ordering others around, I must not be participating at all. The implication appears to be that, unless I make a mountain of every molehill, I'm either failing to pull my own weight, trying to hide something, or letting the moles take over. My own counter-reasoning is that I get far more accomplished (including things that others don't need to do for me) if I leave the transparency to when I'm actually asked a real question.No idea what this has to do with OF, and I'll be the first to admit that posting the excerpt publicly undercuts its own anti-reporting point. But it's a topic that one part of me wanted to discuss with another. It's still below my usual quality of self-communication, but it's an improvement over last week's inner incoherence. When I feel a strong emotion, this is the kind of conversation that I have with myself. When I asked myself why I was feeling frustrated earlier in the week, this was the answer that my fingers typed out for me. It's a bit like letting my fingers vent the emotion while my eyes act as the sympathetic listener. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 12-13-2020 And, following the first couple months of standard usage on OF, it's been another two months of Shannon's recommended usage (for me, specifically) without any break days. With weekends of extra loops and a scant few weekdays where I missed a loop. But, even so, every day, mostly on schedule. As before, none of the side effects reported by others. Still haven't "become exhausted" by listening without any days off. The brief situational frustration experienced (as mentioned in the post before this one) was my closest brush with anger, and, even now, weeks later, I don't disagree with my reaction. Dreams are still pretty mundane, but, for clarity's sake, I'll point out that:
Feeling no more free or fearless than usual, but, as mentioned in this thread's first post, I've been seizing more fleeting opportunities and applying somewhat different risk metrics to decisions since starting OF. Taking a slightly increased interest in decisions, intuition, and prospect theory. My goal with OF isn't about 100% fearlessness, partly in light of Kahneman's (who, admittedly, despite his Nobel, may be as fallible as the rest of humanity) theorizing that new fears can easily generate out of associative memory processing. And partly because I'm not focused on polar outcomes. Most of my reasoning for continuing to run OF is that 1) FRM's specific notion of fear sounds like a hard shell wrapped around most new IML subs, so getting concentrated FRM practice under my belt might get me to the juicy center of the other subs more quickly and 2) OF might pave a clearer path for no-FRM subs too. As far as other observations go, I've continued to make forward strides with my health that, had I continued on MHS, might not have otherwise occurred. That extra bit of perseverance has been enough for me to feel that OF isn't wasting my time. Still, having said that, it feels like OF is mostly addressing hesitation and fear-based excuses, not long-held phobias or aversions to probable-but-not-guaranteed outcomes. I suppose that it could just be OF pointing me toward low-hanging fruit first. Even so, if OF were handed to me as a mystery sub, I doubt that I could guess its purpose from the results, and I'm not entirely certain that the few observations that I've made aren't pure confirmation bias. Some remaining fears are just aversions to invariable consequences, the stove that's hot to me and room-temperature to others. Like a rare allergy. But there's the rub: Is it an irrational fear when no one else believes that the stove can ever be hot for anyone, or is it a logical aversion to a stove that reliably burns only me? To an outside/inexperienced observer, the two might seem the same. Does others' inexperience really make me the irrational one? Other remaining fears are objectively irrational. More fear of the unexplained "or else" (like direct consequences of declining a forced Hobson's choice) than of the truly unknown (arbitrary consequences unconnected with obvious cause, prevention, predictable reaction, or anything else, the "what is" that I can't know until it's happened). The first results from a choice/direct influence over the outcome, while the second is independent of any choices/influence. Of course, that isn't to say that people can't convince themselves that the second is the first ("I control everything") or that the first is the second ("I control nothing"). These two camps of remaining fears (1 = unpopular consequences, 2 = an undefined Door #2 choice) have, thus far, not measurably changed. I've respected the models' instructions for two months and Shannon's specific recommendation for another two months. As I've ignored my instincts to do so and as following my own progress bars has always outperformed the models' instructions on other subs, I'm now going to try usage that respects my own learning pace. Both official methods produced only light progress, so I don't see another usage switch as giving up on OF or on "what worked." If OF 5.75.5G (v2) sees daylight, I may jump on it, but I may also go with my instincts for usage. If that degrades the outcome, hey, that's on me, not the sub. I've tried to set a good example for four months, but, really, my sub listening isn't about proving to others that I'm disciplined; it's about learning something new for myself. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - Shannon - 12-14-2020 It sounds like you may be performing a very advanced and intricate form of mental gymnastics at the subconscious level in order to delay and derail the program from working, which is unfortunate but not an unsurprising result for someone who is sufficiently intelligent and educated. I of course could also be wrong. If I am right, then I'll need to add some very advanced counter-scripting, which will no doubt take a while to figure out the "how" of.. I say, go for it with your own intuitive responses to how and when to use it. See if that helps. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 12-15-2020 (12-14-2020, 05:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: It sounds like you may be performing a very advanced and intricate form of mental gymnastics at the subconscious level in order to delay and derail the program from working, which is unfortunate but not an unsurprising result for someone who is sufficiently intelligent and educated. I of course could also be wrong. If I am right, then I'll need to add some very advanced counter-scripting, which will no doubt take a while to figure out the "how" of.. Thanks, Shannon, and, yeah, it might be. Or not. No idea. There's certainly no benefit in me rejecting the possibility that I'm slowing it down somehow, intentionally (subconsciously) or unintentionally (accidentally?). That'd only make it that much harder to stop doing it, if that's actually what's happening. Even so, as I'd said, it's not that there's been no progress, just that there's been lighter progress than I've made on other subs in far less time. Unless, of course, this is the optimal pace for me to handle fear removal right now, which, while theoretically possible, still seems like it shouldn't be quite this glacial. May also be a technical issue, as I haven't been able to use my home listening setup all year. The player side should be close enough to identical, but trading speakers for headphones alters two factors: 1) the device that's actually reproducing the audio and 2) headphones preclude using a pure US track. Yeah, the switch to instinctive is just another thing to try. As the switch to v2 would also be. If they don't help to speed things up, then they don't, but at least I'll have given them a try. Initially, though, I'm taking at least one day off, if only to see where things have settled after two months of no days off from OF. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - London1 - 12-15-2020 What is your current setup? RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 12-16-2020 (12-15-2020, 04:41 PM)London1 Wrote: What is your current setup?Current: mplayer -> Linux -> Intel sound card -> analog -> Sony collapsible headphones -> ears Home: mplayer -> FreeBSD -> Realtek sound card -> HDMI -> Samsung TV speakers -> ears And, until my home environment stops irritating my health issue, I'm stuck with current. Same set of ears in both cases, in case that wasn't obvious. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - Shannon - 12-17-2020 You should definitely notice a difference between v1 and v2 of OF, given the advancements that have been made in how I do things since v1 was built. RE: myth's OF 5.75G Journal - myth - 12-19-2020 (12-17-2020, 09:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: You should definitely notice a difference between v1 and v2 of OF, given the advancements that have been made in how I do things since v1 was built.While I'm an ardent skeptic of the "newer's always better" belief that often fuels upgrade chasers and early adopters, I'm also undeniably curious to see how these advancements affect both OF and the 5.75G series. Given the timing of my recent days off, I'll probably resume my OF listening on v2. As far as what I might or might not notice, I expect nothing less than the unexpected! And that includes the release timing... |