(07-23-2019, 09:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: I said that the third day of rest is when the bloom STARTS.  Not when it's over.  The models told me originally that most people would do best with 7 days off from 1 loop on 1 day, and stubborn types would do best from 3x1, 7x0.  If you always use it just as the bloom starts, then it can never bloom.  What if the bloom is where it works best?

I suggest you do this.  Use it 1 loop per day until you get a headache, and then stop using it until you feel the urge to use it again.  I'm currently on Day 4 of rest, and I can tell you, Day 3 and Day 4, my sense of humor has been on point and on display, and I'm happy and having a grand old time living life.  I asked myself earlier today, "Is it time to run another loop?" and the thought came back, "Not yet."

I think for me, 3x1, 7x0 may be perfect.  May want to see how the 7x0 works before you pass it up.  And don't run the program on a day when you have a headache from it.  That's where you stop, or you'll have headaches for days, as you noticed.

But I am glad to hear you guys are enjoying it.

(07-23-2019, 09:57 AM)THolt Wrote:

(07-23-2019, 09:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: I said that the third day of rest is when the bloom STARTS.  Not when it's over.  The models told me originally that most people would do best with 7 days off from 1 loop on 1 day, and stubborn types would do best from 3x1, 7x0.  If you always use it just as the bloom starts, then it can never bloom.  What if the bloom is where it works best?

I suggest you do this.  Use it 1 loop per day until you get a headache, and then stop using it until you feel the urge to use it again.  I'm currently on Day 4 of rest, and I can tell you, Day 3 and Day 4, my sense of humor has been on point and on display, and I'm happy and having a grand old time living life.  I asked myself earlier today, "Is it time to run another loop?" and the thought came back, "Not yet."

I think for me, 3x1, 7x0 may be perfect.  May want to see how the 7x0 works before you pass it up.  And don't run the program on a day when you have a headache from it.  That's where you stop, or you'll have headaches for days, as you noticed.

But I am glad to hear you guys are enjoying it.

@Shannon

Could this apply to USLM 4.1 too? I did my two days and am on my first rest day but I do feel a bit of a desire to run the program. That being said I wouldn't mind taking a few days off because of the power of this program.

(07-24-2019, 05:25 AM)Shannon Wrote: So what you are telling me is, you're overdosing.  The sleep issue you describe indicates that either your subconscious is struggling to prevent you from executing by staying asleep, or it is executing, but exhausted from too much exposure.  The headache is most likely too much exposure triggering resistance.  Caffeine consumption sounds like either you need a lot more caffeine to stay functional because you're exhausted from overload, or possibly self medication as a potential form of resistance.  Hunger spikes is definitely some fear or other being worked through.

So here's what seems to be the case with UMS and the new level of power.  It injects an incredibly massive pulse of data into your head and is very aggressive about execution.  This means that when you execute, it takes a huge amount of energy.  So much, in fact, that it will usually requires a large number of days off compared to days on.  That time off is when the program is actively being executed, because of the bloom.  During input, it's being accepted; during the rest of that day, it's being decoded and there will be some execution.  But it seems to take 1-3 days to finish accept/decode/store, and begin full execution.

You guys don't understand the new setup, so you're trying to use it like the old level of power, and that is not going to work most of the time anymore.  This new setup is truly an entirely new game.  So I definitely see evidence that you are being affected, and I see evidence that you are overloading.  Most likely you are also trying hard to fight the instructions because the input power is so high that you probably take it as orders, instead of instructions.  Without enough time off to bloom, you won't see full execution for most people.  So what I suggest you do is this.  Take days off until you return to normal or feel the time is right, and then start on the 3x1, 7x0 regimen.  See how that works for you.  We can always try to adjust it later.

Truly, the problem isn't the level of power anymore.  It's using it properly.  And worst case scenario, we still have things we can tweak and adjust that will affect how the power is injected and how you interact with it.  But the power level (engine tuning) is almost certainly ideal at this point.

(07-23-2019, 12:16 PM)cataleya Wrote: Is US/LM 4.1 given the update at the same level of power as UMS now?

(07-24-2019, 05:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: USLM 4.1 uses Magnus Engine 2.0, tuned to the same level of power that UMS is tuned to.  Unless something changes, that will be the standard level of power.

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(08-07-2019, 10:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: I think, after observing everyone so far, that instead of increasing the number of loops per day or days doing loops, if you want to do something along those lines, you should be experimenting with decreasing your days off gradually.

(08-07-2019, 12:41 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:

(08-07-2019, 10:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: I think, after observing everyone so far, that instead of increasing the number of loops per day or days doing loops, if you want to do something along those lines, you should be experimenting with decreasing your days off gradually.

Funny, Shannon,I was thinking along the same lines,as that. However I'm in no rush to get there. As it stands I'm doing 3X. 5X0. I am still experimenting with three days on and 5 days off. Even that I'm really looking closely,to see if da bloom needs MORE time....if that were the magic happens then of course that's where I wanna be. THIS is such new territory!

(08-07-2019, 10:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: I think, after observing everyone so far, that instead of increasing the number of loops per day or days doing loops, if you want to do something along those lines, you should be experimenting with decreasing your days off gradually.

(08-08-2019, 03:03 AM)Infinite Wrote: The celebrity factor continues.

(08-08-2019, 08:51 AM)THolt Wrote: I have yet to experience this celebrity factor. Maybe it is happening but I am not paying close enough attention.

(08-08-2019, 10:50 AM)Infinite Wrote: I actually didn't even notice it at first.  Then I mentioned to you about the way that the high level cops treated me, and I realized what had been going on.  I don't know if you ever tried DMSI?  When I was on that sub, the celebrity factor was right in your face.  Strangers waving at me from their cars, people's jaws dropping while staring at me, a guy running over to look at me.  The celebrity factor I'm noticing with UMS is much more subtle, it almost seems normal.  It's definitely respect in a way that usually comes across as admiration.  They want your attention, but they don't want to disturb you.  Lots of people admiring me in a non sexual way when I was wearing my under $20 Walmart outfit with no makeup and hair in a ponytail, took me five minutes to get ready that day.  Someone standing for at least 15 seconds to hold the door open for me while admiring me in a non sexual way.  Another person acting as if she should have held the door open for me.  Lots of smiles, managers coming over to say hello.  This behavior appears to be normal while it's happening, but I know that people in my area don't like to hold doors open for people.  Some even see a person coming and they will let the door slam on them.  Others don't even say "thank you" when someone opens the door for them, and they definitely don't admire someone wearing inexpensive clothes.  The celebrity factor with UMS is probably different for everyone.  Is it even listed as one of the effects from the sub?  I don't remember reading about it.