(10-14-2024, 11:39 AM)ReconGunner Wrote: Welcome back! Glad you're safe.

(10-14-2024, 11:33 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-14-2024, 02:27 AM)Topaz Wrote: Wow if that's current it's really making me feel bad!

I thought the new technology goes around fears that what you wrote in the description as well

What are my options then?

You are referring to this statement in the product description:

Quote:The Key Script Proper now has a much higher impact configuration, making it roughly 15x more impact than before.  This is made possible by building it in 5.11G.  The effect this has is that it prevents resistance from the user and/or gets through and past resistance faster and more easily.  It also causes execution to be more forceful, which results in better overall results from those who are affected by your aphrodisiac energy field because you will be projecting the field more powerfully.

X4A-1xxx is designed to past resistance faster and more easily by making the goal simpler and the process of achieving it simpler.  It is also 5.11G, which makes it more effective for getting past the reasons for resistance, which would be fear at their core.

That doesn't mean that it will work well for everyone.  Especially if you have a rare type of personality, or a very unusual core belief issue, or some combination of those things.  X4A will work for those who do not fear being sexually arousing to women, or having sex with them.  That's the goal of the program.  But anyone who has that fear is going to have problems with X4A.  And DMSI.  And apparently, Sex Magnet in your case.  What all these programs have in common is making you sexually attractive and arousing to the woman, and getting to physical sex with her.

Now what really interests me here is we have a clear pattern of this response, and yet you were getting results from affirmations.  That clearly tells me that there is some part of your subconscious that is afraid of either women, being attractive to women, or having sex with women - or some combination of those.   

So I have a couple questions for you.  First, please describe to me as clearly as you can what your response to DMSI was, and how it compares to your response to X4A.  Second, can you remember any time in your life that you were afraid of women, sex, or being attractive or arousing to women?  Third, without getting into discussing religion or breaking Rule #4, is it possible that you hold a religious belief that one or more of these factors might get you punished from a religious perspective? And last, have you done a run through of EHPRA, OF, or OGSF?

(10-14-2024, 02:11 PM)Topaz Wrote:

(10-14-2024, 11:33 AM)Shannon Wrote: You are referring to this statement in the product description:







X4A-1xxx is designed to past resistance faster and more easily by making the goal simpler and the process of achieving it simpler.  It is also 5.11G, which makes it more effective for getting past the reasons for resistance, which would be fear at their core.



That doesn't mean that it will work well for everyone.  Especially if you have a rare type of personality, or a very unusual core belief issue, or some combination of those things.  X4A will work for those who do not fear being sexually arousing to women, or having sex with them.  That's the goal of the program.  But anyone who has that fear is going to have problems with X4A.  And DMSI.  And apparently, Sex Magnet in your case.  What all these programs have in common is making you sexually attractive and arousing to the woman, and getting to physical sex with her.



Now what really interests me here is we have a clear pattern of this response, and yet you were getting results from affirmations.  That clearly tells me that there is some part of your subconscious that is afraid of either women, being attractive to women, or having sex with women - or some combination of those.   



So I have a couple questions for you.  First, please describe to me as clearly as you can what your response to DMSI was, and how it compares to your response to X4A.  Second, can you remember any time in your life that you were afraid of women, sex, or being attractive or arousing to women?  Third, without getting into discussing religion or breaking Rule #4, is it possible that you hold a religious belief that one or more of these factors might get you punished from a religious perspective? And last, have you done a run through of EHPRA, OF, or OGSF?

To be honest what is interesting is that you say I have a fear of having sex or attracting women, yet I pulled girls to my bed many times.



I also dress in unconventional way many times and get attention from women as well as compliments.

So I think I can handle attention.



Some girls at work can be attracted to me and basically ignore them if I'm not interested.



Using affirmations which I started again few days ago - Again I pulled just today girl to my room after approaching her on the beach.

She even drove me home with her car.

Complimenting me all the way through.



So man it's honestly sounds weird you will say I have fear of women or sex.



It just seems for some reason these attracting programs are inferior to what I can do with just believing in myself a bit more.

Quote:5.11G as you said should work through these things that's the advertisement.
But now I am a special case supposedly?

Quote:Am6 worked but also made me distant to women in an unhealthy way.

But it did work so I can't say the programs don't work or anything like that.

Quote:That being said,



I'd like full refund for this subscription and for DMSI subscription which for some reason the refund code didn't work when purchased the subscription for X4A.

Two programs I physically couldn't run for more than 1 day 

If you think it's fair not to refund money for a service I didn't use that's crazy.

I used them for 1 day got major side effects and twice you said I shouldn't use them or continue with them.



It made me trust what you offer less,

Not saying it's your fault or that I couldn't find a way making it work somehow.

But at least be professional about money not well spet.

I'm sorry if I'm too direct about the money subject here but that's the elephant in the room and it should be fine about money as we feel comfortable talking about sex or whatever.

So first of all please refund the money...

Quote:I'll be happy to answer and provide information if you think it can help ,

About DMSI it made me feel weak with headaches and feeling of sexual energy rising to the head.



About EHPRA I didn't run it.



I don't hold beliefs about religion and women.



I do not fear sex being arousing to women or something like that



Thanks

(10-07-2024, 08:06 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Shannon, did you read the message from Ben regarding the OPE coupon? Waiting for the coupon to purchase.

(10-16-2024, 12:13 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote:

(10-07-2024, 08:06 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Shannon, did you read the message from Ben regarding the OPE coupon? Waiting for the coupon to purchase.

Following up on this.  Waiting for the coupon that you promised to the buyers of the original OPE.  I'm ready to buy Shannon!

(10-16-2024, 09:28 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-14-2024, 02:11 PM)Topaz Wrote: To be honest what is interesting is that you say I have a fear of having sex or attracting women, yet I pulled girls to my bed many times.



I also dress in unconventional way many times and get attention from women as well as compliments.

So I think I can handle attention.



Some girls at work can be attracted to me and basically ignore them if I'm not interested.



Using affirmations which I started again few days ago - Again I pulled just today girl to my room after approaching her on the beach.

She even drove me home with her car.

Complimenting me all the way through.



So man it's honestly sounds weird you will say I have fear of women or sex.



It just seems for some reason these attracting programs are inferior to what I can do with just believing in myself a bit more.

I can see how you would come to that conclusion.  Yours is a unique case, however.  I have never seen this before, and we've been in business since around 2008 here and from 2003 before that on eBay.  I have seen a lot of people come and go in that time, and yours is the first of it's kind. 

Quote:5.11G as you said should work through these things that's the advertisement.
But now I am a special case supposedly?

If you're not just trolling me in all this, and I don't think you are, then special case would be an understatement.  You are the only one I have ever seen have this sort of response.  I'm scratching my head trying to understand it.  

Quote:Am6 worked but also made me distant to women in an unhealthy way.

But it did work so I can't say the programs don't work or anything like that.

I wouldn't be able to stay in business if these programs did not work.  We don't advertise at all for years now and we stay in business because they work.  So the only thing I cana think of is that you have the combination of a personality and set of beliefs I have never encountered before.  Basically you're telling me that affirmations work for you almost immediately, but programs that took over a decade of development cause massive rejection and resistance responses.  All else aside, that would at the very least strongly suggest that you have a very strong will and a deep desire to do what you want to do instead of allowing yourself to be influenced.  But the things you report all point to a subconscious response of extreme fear. 

If you're pulling women with just affirmations, then you are either bypassing the parts that are afraid of sex/women somehow, or your fears don't have to do with sex/women directly, but are somehow being triggered as a secondary association.  Very, very confusing.

Quote:That being said,



I'd like full refund for this subscription and for DMSI subscription which for some reason the refund code didn't work when purchased the subscription for X4A.

Two programs I physically couldn't run for more than 1 day 

If you think it's fair not to refund money for a service I didn't use that's crazy.

I used them for 1 day got major side effects and twice you said I shouldn't use them or continue with them.



It made me trust what you offer less,

Not saying it's your fault or that I couldn't find a way making it work somehow.

But at least be professional about money not well spet.

I'm sorry if I'm too direct about the money subject here but that's the elephant in the room and it should be fine about money as we feel comfortable talking about sex or whatever.

So first of all please refund the money...

I don't have an issue with refunding you in this case.  However, Ben is going to have to handle that, since until I get a production computer up and running and my backups restored, I am not in a position to issue the refund myself,

Quote:I'll be happy to answer and provide information if you think it can help ,

About DMSI it made me feel weak with headaches and feeling of sexual energy rising to the head.



About EHPRA I didn't run it.



I don't hold beliefs about religion and women.



I do not fear sex being arousing to women or something like that



Thanks

Alright, since you get such good results from affirmations, I'd like you to do an exercise for me.  This may be very helpful in understanding what's going on here.

I'd like you to find a place where you can have some quiet time, and be alone.  Then, get yourself comfortable, sitting or laying down, and close your eyes.  Ask yourself, "Why do I respond this way to Shannon's subliminals?" and then spend a few minutes just listening for a response.  It may come as a thought, a faint voice or a feeling, but whatever it is, listen to it and take note.  If you get no discernible answer, try to relax yourself further, and after adjusting to more relaxed state, ask again.  Keep doing this until you get an answer.  You'll have to focus into yourself until you get it, and this may need to be done before you go to bed or just after you awaken depending on the results you get from your first attempt.

Then once you get an answer, start exploring the answer.  Start asking "Why?"  Keep going until you reach the root of the reasoning for the part of you that is answering.  This process can reveal some stunning revelations about how your subconscious thinks and what it believes.  I think this could be very helpful for us, and once you understand and share that with me, we may be able to improve the programs as well.

How long did you use DMSI?  I'm guessing you used v3.5?

(10-17-2024, 02:39 AM)Topaz Wrote:

(10-16-2024, 09:28 AM)Shannon Wrote: I can see how you would come to that conclusion.  Yours is a unique case, however.  I have never seen this before, and we've been in business since around 2008 here and from 2003 before that on eBay.  I have seen a lot of people come and go in that time, and yours is the first of it's kind. 







If you're not just trolling me in all this, and I don't think you are, then special case would be an understatement.  You are the only one I have ever seen have this sort of response.  I'm scratching my head trying to understand it.  













I wouldn't be able to stay in business if these programs did not work.  We don't advertise at all for years now and we stay in business because they work.  So the only thing I cana think of is that you have the combination of a personality and set of beliefs I have never encountered before.  Basically you're telling me that affirmations work for you almost immediately, but programs that took over a decade of development cause massive rejection and resistance responses.  All else aside, that would at the very least strongly suggest that you have a very strong will and a deep desire to do what you want to do instead of allowing yourself to be influenced.  But the things you report all point to a subconscious response of extreme fear. 



If you're pulling women with just affirmations, then you are either bypassing the parts that are afraid of sex/women somehow, or your fears don't have to do with sex/women directly, but are somehow being triggered as a secondary association.  Very, very confusing.











I don't have an issue with refunding you in this case.  However, Ben is going to have to handle that, since until I get a production computer up and running and my backups restored, I am not in a position to issue the refund myself,













Alright, since you get such good results from affirmations, I'd like you to do an exercise for me.  This may be very helpful in understanding what's going on here.



I'd like you to find a place where you can have some quiet time, and be alone.  Then, get yourself comfortable, sitting or laying down, and close your eyes.  Ask yourself, "Why do I respond this way to Shannon's subliminals?" and then spend a few minutes just listening for a response.  It may come as a thought, a faint voice or a feeling, but whatever it is, listen to it and take note.  If you get no discernible answer, try to relax yourself further, and after adjusting to more relaxed state, ask again.  Keep doing this until you get an answer.  You'll have to focus into yourself until you get it, and this may need to be done before you go to bed or just after you awaken depending on the results you get from your first attempt.



Then once you get an answer, start exploring the answer.  Start asking "Why?"  Keep going until you reach the root of the reasoning for the part of you that is answering.  This process can reveal some stunning revelations about how your subconscious thinks and what it believes.  I think this could be very helpful for us, and once you understand and share that with me, we may be able to improve the programs as well.



How long did you use DMSI?  I'm guessing you used v3.5?

Don't you remember?

I used the last DMSI program in the shop just few months ago...

I stopped SM3 on stage 4 because it didn't so anything at all.

Then starting DMSI and you said I should come back to SM3 immediately and so I did.

I felt so bad after one day I needed to be treated with Reiki and meditation to let that physical feeling go away.



About trolling you, I wish I was trolling you.

But I'm not.

Quote:Not sure if I can share it?

I did work with Cory Skyy and Abraham Hicks books and materials for years.

So at first affirmations didn't work so fast for me and also when they would I would just block it because I couldn't believe it.

It came to a place I can make affirmations and visualizations work very quickly but not on all subjects and not to mention it can be hard to make them sustainable (but not anyway impossible).

So maybe for me affirmations, is like going to to gym to make them work. 

You wouldn't think someone can be very muscular if he stopped training....

It the same for me on the subject of affirmations or visualizations.

And it's like a muscle memory, it will come back super fast because I can trust myself and the process...

Quote:I'm sometimes amazed but what happens to me, just 2 days ago I had a problem people reacting bad to me because of something a specific subject.



I complained about it to my friend, he said it's true there are some people in the world like that but maybe it's something I attracted.

So I visualized and affirmed people like me because of this specific thing.

Yesterday I had 3 different girls reacting much better about the subject.

It was like really??



And today I had one guy who works in a coffee restaurant I go to breakfast for starting to talk to me about it and saying he appreciates and like that (don't want to share here the subject) but you get the idea.



On different subjects I don't get headways for weeks or months, so it's not like I can do anything so easily...



I will also mention I meditate everyday for years..

Sometimes for 1 hour a day

I had times in my like I meditated for 90 minutes everyday for 18 months straight (not while using Subliminals)

These days I meditate for 20-40 minutes a day, everyday.



About trying to figure out why it happens, I will try the exercise you suggested.

Quote:Before I do I can think of these reasons:

1. I don't like to be influenced outside of myself so I might see subliminals as someone telling what to do and trying to effect me forcefully instead of working with me and my desires.

Quote:2. I see affirmations and visualizations and working with higher power, moulding the clay, having the manifestations circumstances and events unfolding for me in the best gentle way possible, through the path of least resistance..

Where I might see subliminals, as less spiritual, working on one area, not working with my higher self, and not unfolding gently through the path of least resistance.

Quote:3. Because of anti piracy scripts being afraid of creator's script maybe having bad affirmations in it for me

Quote:4. Fear for my health, changing my energy or aura of thoughts might hinder my psychical wellbeing which might not work for my highest good





This is what coming up when thinking about the subject before trying to meditate on it

I think it might be helpful

(10-17-2024, 06:10 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Hey Shannon, how do the online sniper features for DMSI work?

Do you have to focus on their profile or pictures or something? Do they have to see what you look like in your pfp to be affected? Do they have to know you? If you interact with them briefly, will they remember you later? Just curious how it works, so I know how I can use it.

(10-18-2024, 06:18 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: That's very interesting!



If they don't know you exist, but are still affected, and would have a difficult time responding, in what ways would they be affected? What would the effects be?

Quote:If they met you later, would the prior effects come into play? Would it be any different than if they had no prior effects?

Quote:If they do not have to be in your direct line of site to be effected, does envisioning them in your mind's eye affect them?

Quote:What if they've  briefly interacted with you before but probably forgot about you?

Quote:Might the effects cause them to remember?

Quote:What if someone is asleep when you're affecting them? Like, you're thinking about them and scrolling through their social media page at night and they know you, but maybe they go to sleep while you're still up? Would they wake up in the morning wanting to hit you up?

Quote:If she does know you and never thought of you that way before, does it make her take longer to change how she feels about you?

Quote:Sorry if I'm annoying you with these questions, but I'm really curious about it.

(10-19-2024, 09:13 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(10-18-2024, 06:18 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: That's very interesting!



If they don't know you exist, but are still affected, and would have a difficult time responding, in what ways would they be affected? What would the effects be?

They will always know you exist on some level, however sub- or super-conscious (but otherwise non-conscious).  Whenm you snipe them, those parts of you which are aware of you will be affected with knowledge, and will begin responding.  How exactly they respond is going to depend on which parts, the unique person and the circumstances, but it may be that they do not act enough to accomplish anything and it may be that they begin seeking you at a level that results in your life experience lines (so to speak) crossing paths such that you end up meeting in person.  I don't know how likely each is, but I would presume that it is most likely not to meet.

Quote:If they met you later, would the prior effects come into play? Would it be any different than if they had no prior effects?

If they meet you later, two major variables will come into play.  First, they will sub- or super-consciously remember the snipe and the interaction, and those parts will respond. 

Second, if you are still using DMSI, you will again begin sniping them upon sight presuming they still meet the criteria, which is, if they are one of the three people within your field of sight that you most want to have sex with.  That will set up a response that is likely to become much more prominent on a conscious level.

Quote:If they do not have to be in your direct line of site to be effected, does envisioning them in your mind's eye affect them?

Something very few people understand is the term "your mind's eye" is much more accurate than is commonly understood.  You call it your imagination, but it is actually your ability to see on a different level of reality, through eyes that are not physical.  Thus, imagining someone is lierally seeing them, and thus yes, they will be affected - again, presuming they qualify as one of the three people within your line of sight whom you can see and most want to have sex with.

Quote:What if they've  briefly interacted with you before but probably forgot about you?

You forget absolutely nothing at the subconscious level.  They will still remember you, and that part of them will know.  If the effect of the sniping is strong enough, they will have that part of them which remembers you and is also being affacted, communicate to their conscious awareness some aspect of what is going on.

Quote:Might the effects cause them to remember?

It can, but is not guaranteed to, cause them to remember consciously, depending on the response of the subconscious.

Quote:What if someone is asleep when you're affecting them? Like, you're thinking about them and scrolling through their social media page at night and they know you, but maybe they go to sleep while you're still up? Would they wake up in the morning wanting to hit you up?

This is likely to be similar to affecting them at a a purely subconscious level, but depends on what they're doing during sleep.  By that I mean, the physical brain goes through various stages of sleep while it is doing what sleep is for, and some of those states are more open to awareness than others.  During Delta, you are effectively shut down.  Whole dreaming, you may have your brain quite active.  

Quote:If she does know you and never thought of you that way before, does it make her take longer to change how she feels about you?

Probably.

Quote:Sorry if I'm annoying you with these questions, but I'm really curious about it.

It's fine.  No worries.

(10-18-2024, 04:33 PM)Shannon Wrote: People who get results that quickly and obviously from affirmations are typically people who have deep, passionate emotions and who have a very strong will and personality.  They also strongly resist what they perceive as efforts to control them.  Would you say any of that applies to you?

(10-19-2024, 10:03 PM)swisston Wrote:

(10-18-2024, 04:33 PM)Shannon Wrote: People who get results that quickly and obviously from affirmations are typically people who have deep, passionate emotions and who have a very strong will and personality.  They also strongly resist what they perceive as efforts to control them.  Would you say any of that applies to you?

OK, as one of those highly resistant to subs generally (although I keep trying!) is there an affirmation that we could use to mentally prepare ourselves to embrace the subs so that they feel less controlling?

Something like:

I trust every word of this subliminal
I want to implement this 100%
I trust Shannon as a partner in this
I treat Shannon's words as if they are my own
This subliminal is my guide. This is what I want. 
I will follow and implement every instruction as if it is my own.

Presumably you'll have a much better idea of what will work.