+- Subliminal Talk (https://subliminal-talk.com)
+-- Forum: Men's Journals (18+ NSFW) (https://subliminal-talk.com/Forum-Men-s-Journals-18-NSFW)
+--- Forum: Men's Journals (https://subliminal-talk.com/Forum-Men-s-Journals)
+--- Thread: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 (/Thread-The-Start-of-A-Sexual-Journey-Prologue-To-AM6)
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - Jamie23445 - 12-15-2015
Hey maxx how did you run with BIATBWS go it looks interesting,do you think these type d manifestation subs work im thinking of picking up the normal biabw but there is something about the sexual one that seems to stand out
Have a good one.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - hiddenalias - 12-15-2015
(12-03-2015, 07:02 PM)maxx55 Wrote: Today is Day 48
AoS
3:02 via earbuds
8:24 via speakers
BIATBWS
3:21 via earbuds
Well today, I did everything I could to try to get a couple of girls that I sorta know to grab some food sometime soon and it didn't happen. I didn't get a real "no" from anyone, but it I mentioned it like three times and no one was really excited about it. One of the two girls I am interested in and she said that she had rehearsal later that day, but then I just said another day is fine. Anyway, nothing happened, I did all I could without being desperate a teacher was right there and I wasn't gonna embarrass myself in front of her. So I did what I could, really. Afterwards, I felt sad. And I sort of thought maybe I'm hopeless. It's events like this that make me just wonder what's the point. I haven't had an equally positive experience yet. I don't see girls getting super turned on by my presence. It makes me wonder if the subs are really helping me achieve my desired goal.
I start to doubt if I can be where I want to with girls. It's a negative thought spiral essentially. I'm better right now, but what should I do? If I'm not doing something right I'd love to know what it is so I can fix it.
I found a video from Elliot Hulse saying to simply not entertain negative thoughts and to change what thoughts knock on the door to my mind. I guess I'll do that for now.
Is the number before the : minutes or hours? You have to listen to the full length of the audio so after the :, there is no 02 or 24; it has to go a full round completely; depending on how long you've been listening, the subconscious needs time to process what is being said to it; it takes time and with repeated efforts, results become more prominent and resistance/blockages weaken. If you are not getting what you want to see, you are not being patient enough. Some people just buy subs thinking that magically overnight after listening for a few hours, BAM! they expect instant manifestation results...I have had manifestations occur because of my subconscious wayyyyyy before finding out about IML; it is not a question of whether Shannon's subs work, it is really realizing that subconscious manifests GUARANTEED results.....and by overcoming resistance and blockages, you also can get what any of the products that Shannon has to offer provides..subliminals can take any time length to manifest anywhere from seconds to years....5g programs are designed to get you to your goals within months. Gota remain persistent and LET GO OF ALL EXPECTATIONS. Let it naturaly come to you
leepy:Use the suggestions above and watch results manifest; I seriously am hoping for you to see some success with this; I have even explained the reasons why subs arent working for some or results arent showing in another post somewhere. Looking forward to the better results with you and you manifesting and attracting BW
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - hiddenalias - 12-15-2015
(10-26-2015, 05:15 PM)apollolux Wrote:(10-26-2015, 04:30 PM)maxx55 Wrote: I approached a girl that I had talked to before on campus but didn't exchange numbers with. I talked with her today and I asked if she wanted to hang out. She hesitated. Then I said "you don't have to if you don't want to". Then she made it clear that she has a bf but she is down to hang out in a group.
First mistake was "wanted to hang out," this masks your intent. Be more direct, like "have a drink" or something more definitive than "hang out." Second mistake was "you don't have to if you don't want to." You sensed her hesitation and you backed down from continuing as if she was actually open. The bf may indeed exist, but you gave her reason to make an excuse, as the hesitation could easily have been her testing you. This wasn't that bad, but you definitely made mistakes here.
(10-26-2015, 04:30 PM)maxx55 Wrote: Later, I saw this ridiculously hot girl across the street heading in the opposite direction. I crossed the street and started trying to catch up (I naturally walk slower than most people so that was a challenge). I finally do when we're at the garage and walking up the stairs. I just say that I like her hair and she says thank you. Then I ask her what her name is and I told her mine. She just said nice to meet you. And the whole time she kept on walking without stopping. And it almost seemed like she sped up going to her car, I just acted like I was going to my car in another part of the garage. I felt nervous. And afterwards I straight up felt embarassed, ashamed, frustrated, and angry. I just want to **** hot girls!!! God!
You essentially had stalker-lite behavior here. She kept walking without stopping, which should mean she wasn't receptive to what you were offering, which was "I like your hair" (which could be interpreted differently depending on how you said it). If you feel she sped up towards her car you should have also picked up on that as a "no," since she probably also picked up on the fact that you felt nervous and then embarrassed, ashamed, etc. This was straight up horrible, and you probably need to work on being congruent (aka DON'T fake confidence that isn't there).
I read your comments and explanations as to why you did what you did above; in fact I used to be in your shoes and had the same 'bad' traits where women would rush away from me or just a standard 'hi not interested' response. So I know where you're coming from.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - maxx55 - 12-16-2015
Okay guys, here's an update on everything right now.
Dec 20 will be my 64th day, so it's only 4 days off.
I stopped and took a look at my habits. I'm in the process of figuring out how to run my day from the moment I wake up. This is what I noticed with my patterns of habit:
1 I want to fuck girls
2 I go talk to a few girls, have a good interaction most of the time and we exchange numbers (this happens fairly often)
3 Because college schedules can be hectic, I'll get flaked on due to legitimate sounding reasons
4 Eventually they don't respond to my texts anymore (these are girls that I only have seen in person that one time I first met them)
5 I feel bad about myself for failing at having what I feel is a basic right (to fuck hot girls)
6 I eventually end up finding pron with the kind of girl I'd really like to fuck with the guy fucking her the way I would
7 Repeat
I have taken action to stop the cycle above. I'm officially SERIOUSLY taking my brain off porn. I watched the videos suggested by CatMan. And it's unnacceptable what happens to your brain. I'm fine right now, but I'm not going to physically alter my brain in a bad way. Unfortunately, yesterday I got really horny and I went HAM on pron (not for longer than usual, but I busted 4 nuts). I had been masturbating to myself for about a week and I felt better after, but like I said, I really wanted to fuck a hot girl yesterday.
Another bad habit cycle
1- I'm with a group of people who aren't my friends yet
2- Someone else gets the attention of everyone
3- I don't really get it back and don't know how to respond
4- I feel weird and don't know what to do and may feel bad about myself
I have started avoiding group situations like this. But this has started recently. I was over this before I started AoS/BIATBWS, but now it seems like social anxiety and depression have come back.
Between the last major update and today, I only noticed one girl make eye contact with me and smile. Before AoS/BIATBWS I didn't really look for that. And since it's not happening on a daily basis, I can't say the sub is helping. I cross paths with MANY MANY MANY girls a day on campus while just going to class. I would really think I'd see it at least once a day if it was the sub helping.
As of right now, I go between feeling noticeably more social anxiety, feeling barely any, and feeling depression. I thought I had BPD, but I met a girl who has it and we talked about it and she doesn't think I have it, but just depression. I also have a lack of motivation towards classes I don't care about. And at times, I feel ashamed of my lack of my success with girls. I would think "Oh I have the subs on my side now, I'm unstoppable", and then go and talk to a girl, but it doesn't really go much differently than what it normally would.
Before AoS/BIATBWS there was no sexual activity with the girls I really wanted to fuck. So I thought I'd KNOW that it works if afterwards there is an increase (which means it's actually happening). I don't care about numbers, or anything like that. The missing part that I had issue with before was strictly fucking the hot girl, that's really it.
I really wanted to start 2016 off on the right foot. So I planned on doing OF 5G. I was gonna stop my current combo on the 20th if something didn't change in a major way.
But since I read your posts and you want me to continue, tell me, NOW do you really think I should continue? Can the changes happen very suddenly? I thought it would be a gradual improvement, and if that's the case, I would say that I haven't improved or had my sex life improved. When I read some others journals, they say things like "It builds up as each day passes" and that girls look at them "every day", so I just assumed it built up to it.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - maxx55 - 12-16-2015
Also, yes I am listening all the way through the tracks and continuing from where I left off most off the time.
I'll post my sub times later for the days that are missing here.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - Survivor - 12-16-2015
Which player are you using
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - maxx55 - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 10:57 AM)Survivor Wrote: Which player are you using
VLC Media Player when at my PC, the FileMaster app for iPhone when I'm on the go. Both of which I used for EPRHA and saw results.
If there is a player that makes the subs substantially more effective though, let me know
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - Survivor - 12-16-2015
I 've tried 10+ different players, it is hard to define but I have my assessments
As for the subs, you gave them more than 60 days so I think it is time to stop now.It didn't work, so move on.If I were you I would have stopped at the 32 day, if I saw no results at all, and find a sub that do works..
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - maxx55 - 12-16-2015
Okay. I thought that with enough repetitions, any sub would work. But I definitely don't want to waste time. If no one else disagrees, then I'll stop running the program today, give my mind a break until OF 5G comes out and then do that.
I will say though that it took 3 months for me START seeing positives from EPRHA. But I knew it was dealing with A LOT in the first 2 weeks.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - maxx55 - 12-16-2015
Well. According to Shannon, I should have ran one program and that may be why it didn't work.
And, he recommended that in order, I run:
1. EHPRA 2.0
2. OGSF 5G
3. OF 5G
From today forward I'll use just AoS by itself and see what happens.
I thought EHPRA and OGSF accomplished the same goal, yet differently, but I guess they do different things.
I'm really unsure what to make of this now. I'll need time to think. I really wanted to go straight to OF and then start AM6....
I will think about this for a bit. I don't want to put off AM6 for another year. I planned on doing OF for 6+ months, then AM6 3 or 4 times, then a year of Grow Taller 5G, but Shannon's recommendation definitely holds weight to me since he knows what's in his programs.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - maxx55 - 12-16-2015
(12-16-2015, 09:10 PM)yeah! Wrote: How old are you maxx55? You dont want those plates closing before you start grow taller if you can help it (though I think you could still get growth if you did).
Also I am waiting for Shannons answer in his journal, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna say AM6 is a go now and should cover all your goals.
I'm 20 right now. If I followed my plan, I'd be running Grow Taller 5G from soon after I turn 22 to after I'm 23. So I should definitely be good.
And I'm glad I asked Shannon to clarify. So it's just a choice of ONE of those 3 subs.
My thoughts are this: I ran EPRHA for 6 months so I think I have less to gain from EPRHA 2.0 than from OGSF or OF since AM6 has EPRHA in it and I'll be doing that for sure.
Some people who did AM6 regret not doing OF beforehand. I know EPRHA 2.0 is definitely better than EPRHA, but I think I'll get the most growth doing OF instead. In my mind though, I am a little worried that some fears could be linked to shame though...but if they were, I think the OGSF in AM6 would handle that since I'd follow OF with it pretty quick.
I know that if I had no fear and more confidence in myself about my abilities, I'd probably feel emotionally whole. While EPRHA did help with healing the inner me, it didn't do much in terms of freeing the outer me. I was less social, which I didn't like, but at peace at the same time. I want more social benefits. And I think OF would more likely do that for me.
If OGSF has OF exactly in it, then I'll do OGSF 5G. If not, then it'll be OF.
If EPRHA 2.0 had OF 5G in it, then I'd do that.
Also I'll listen AoS solo for maybe up to a week longer. If I haven't seen anything noticeable, I'll stop. I think if Shannon combines BIATBWS and AoS in a single 5G sub and has them work together, that'd be great. I'd try it in the future.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - Vincent_Vega - 12-17-2015
Like I told you a few weeks ago, running AOS solo may produce better results. And of course I want you to keep running the subs because I want to see you having results, but if you feel that you aren't getting results, changing subs maybe better. In the end, it's your choice.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - maxx55 - 12-17-2015
I'll give AoS until Dec. 24. It's not like I'm only giving it a week. I've been running it for almost 60 days with something else and now I'll give it 1 week solo to see what I notice.
Also I will be doing OGSF 5G after this.
RE: The Start of A Sexual Journey: Prologue To AM6 - maxx55 - 12-23-2015
Okay guys. I'm done with both of these. I'm resting my mind for now.
I didn't get any noticeable results, but that's okay. I'm glad to acknowledge this sooner rather than later. I do wonder how v-day will turn out, but I have more important things to think about.
My Suggestion
Shannon, I really hope you make a very powerful single stage 5G attraction program. Yes, combine AoS with BIATBWS, but make it a real evolution of the two taking the best of what both have to offer, massively amplifying it, and breaking down all resistance. If you could include state shifting in it too that'd be it! So far, there's no single stage 5G attraction program, there's only programs that manifest specific partners. There should be an attraction program that REALLY changes things with all the women you encounter throughout the day.
My plan is to do EPRHA 2.0 or OGSF 5G next year when it's released. I'll probably get it on day 1.
Also, my Sleepphones broke within the first week, but the company quickly sent me replacement speakers. They tend to slide to the top of my ear sometimes at night which means for that time I get no audio because of the low volume I have it on. If you sleep on your back, you probably won't ever have any problems though.